Reviewers at fault for high SP rates

[ihatemyskirt]

Hey Stryker what was your first clue?!!!!

 

[kokanee_68]

I don't post reviews. Why would I want to increase the popularity of my favorite SP? So, I can only see her when she is back from tour, or fork out more $$$ ? In the end,when a particular Sp has been reviewed over and over, you come to realize the service you received is a repetoire that is repeated over and over. What made her unique is now a generic fuck. Where is the fun in that? I don't care what a SP wants to charge. That is her perogative. The review may inflate the price, but it also removes any eroticism I once felt with her. Time to move on to up and comers.

VERY WELL SAID! couldnta said it better myself!

 

[Sydney]

I don't post reviews... In the end,when a particular Sp has been reviewed over and over, you come to realize the service you received is a repetoire that is repeated over and over. What made her unique is now a generic fuck... Time to move on to up and comers.

If a man's perception of an sp changes after he's read a few reviews and "comes to realize" that she's now this "generic fuck" he finds so distasteful, moving on to up and comers will only postpone the inevitable.

Truth is, she's been selling... and not just to you.

Save the well reviewed ladies time for those who know what the game is about and can appreciate owning the knowledge of high quality, unique and consistant good service over and over. Which I will add does not become generic given that every man has unique qualities that he also brings to the date.

May I suggest that anyone who feels they are getting a "generic fuck" that is simply repeated over and over actually has issues himself, not the sp, and certainly not because she has been reviewed but because you have read the reviews and now feel that the uniqueness you two shared may not have been so.

Reviews are here to make others aware that for whatever reason this particular lady is worth doing bussiness with. I believe that basic purpose is still valuable to most of you. The fact that having been reviewed may actually disinterest certain men should come as no surprise to any of us. The existance of the DNRL is proof of that. And proof of the opposite as well, in that many men will not see an unreviewed lady. The ladies have a tough time either way.

The strongest sp's (reviewed or not) will remain busy with new clients and repeats in spite of this (thankfully) narrow "generic fuck" viewpoint margin and in spite of the refusal to share information about them.

As far as the original topic of this thread, it was only a matter of time before the young women mentioned by CLM realised the value of her services (not her worth) and came on par with her peers.

"Moderation is a fatal thing. Nothing succeeds like excess."
Oscar Wilde

Sydney xo

 

[thepilot]

The flames are hot !

Thanks for the flaming.
I have been seeing SP for years. I have been burnt a few times as well. PERB is excellent for taking the guess work out of finding new SPs. However, when I did find a SP I enjoyed I would repeat dozens of time. I am not naive enough to believe I got preferential treatment, but the great SPs have the ability to make you feel special.As pooners say YMMV. Then I discover PERB and here they all are in reviews. The ganster fuck you once thought unique is reviewed by 3 different pooners.It just loses its appeal.You realize we are all getting the same mileage. I take nothing away from the SP who treats all her clients equally. Kudos to them. Thats what makes them awesome. If a review simply stated "looks,attitude and service" wouldn't that be adequate? IMHO the details spoil it for me,that is all.Would it help if I reviewed Megan and scored her a 8-10-9 ? All her reviews are like that.Does she need more public accolades? I would think she would prefer to see my $$$ another 8 or 9 times this year.That's how I recognize their ability to please.

 

[American Male]

This gal was $150/hr and after a few reviews, rates doubled. It's pretty obvious who's at fault here. Pooners who post reviews. You have no one else to blame but yourselves.

No one will be able to reverse rates that have gone up already, if the SP consistently provides good service, but you can possibly slow down the count of SPs raising their rates in record numbers. And no, posting a poor review isn't an option to an SP with high rates that you've fancied a visit but couldn't afford to. It's tactless and underhanded, basically you are not playing fair.

I agree with Steph completely. What she is seeing very clearly is that the sex industry responds to the basic laws of economics just like every other industry in which money plays a role.

If a commodity (using the jargon of economics, I don't want anyone to think that I see SPs as "commodities") is in high demand but the commodity is fixed, meaning the amount of the commodity available can never increase, the price of that commodity will inevitably increase. Its a basic law. Applying this directly to the sex industry, every SP is a fixed commodity. Only so many hours in a day she is willing or able to work and she can only see one client at a time. When the demand on her time excedes her ability to fulfill that demand, her prices will increase, in an effort to reduce the demand itself.

That feeds straight into the wonderful paradox of Perb. We are all looking for reasonably priced or bargains in SPs donations. In an effort to acheive that end, boards like Perb get created to share info about those reasonably priced or bargain SPs in the form of reviews. But the minute we post reviews to pass on that info, we also increase demand on their time, which inevitably raises their donations. The shared info about all reasonably priced SPs makes it impossible for them to continue to charge that rate. Their prices must go up.

The logical paradox is such a lovely thing!

I will be offering a seminar in the paradox known as Russell's Paradox in the near future. Check your local tv listings for time and date for the broadcast premier of "Philosopher's Corner" only on CBC.

(And if anyone takes the previous paragraph seriously, you are in need of serious medical attention. Seek the services of a mental health care professional immediately).

 

[American Male]

I don't think there is anything like "blame" or "fault" or anything of that nature worth trying to assess in this area. Perb is doing what it was designed to do by serving the needs of its members. Perb members need and want reviews. Offering a place to post reviews is what Perb was designed to do. It just so happens that fulfilling its own purpose also undermines that purpose at the same time. We want to read posted reviews as a guideline for who to make appointments with. Posting reviews makes it harder to enjoy that knowledge obtained from the posts, because posts increase the popularity of SPs, making it less likely that we will be able to make appointments. There are simple more pooners who are now trying to full the same number of possible appointments with any well-reviewed and popular SP. This is a fixed commodity issue. Its another way of explaining the paradox of Perb.

 

[SeekSteadyRegSP]

I don`t know what happend to the thread "rising rates" but it occurred to me that the obvious wasn`t stated. So many threads have started and ended with no solution to the raising of SPs rates. Some have suggested boycott, others just have had the sense to move on to more affordable pastures, some just have no problem with it and continue to poon. Over time more an more SPs have raised their rates and a few more pooners have been a bit shocked but have bucked up the extra cash for their services/time creating a new price standard. Pooners have the power to reduce the rates. And it`s right in front of you: the review and the review board.

Every positive review of an SP creates more demand for her services and in turn she raises her rates to keep up with it. Case in point:

https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=41387

This gal was $150/hr and after a few reviews, rates doubled. It`s pretty obvious who`s at fault here. Pooners who post reviews. You have no one else to blame but yourselves.

No one will be able to reverse rates that have gone up already, if the SP consistently provides good service, but you can possibly slow down the count of SPs raising their rates in record numbers. And no, posting a poor review isn`t an option to an SP with high rates that you`ve fancied a visit but couldn`t afford to. It`s tactless and underhanded, basically you are not playing fair.

You fellas created a "problem" that resulted in you bitching about it later. Hopefully, this is the last thread ever about the rising cost of pooning.

Hello, it dawns on me that rising SP rates may, in this unique business, benefit all of us who consume in these waters because higher prices allow more room at lower rates for more and more women to find a niche in the SP business.

If this were a communist society with strict price controls in place then, lets say for the sake of example, that there would be 500 more-stunning-than-average women servicing a fairly stable population base. The competition for dates would be fierce given the head cheerleader type would always command only the $100 that you would have to spend to bang the president of the glee club.

The lines to bang the head cheerleader would be never-ending, and indeed some would work their way down to where the lines of "availability/convenience" and "patience" criss-crossed one another.

The women who were deemed the least naturally blessed members of the set of 500, would struggle to get business, for customers knowing that the same $100 could potentially get them to the court of the head cheerleader.

The rising prices here in our society assure that while some women charge considerable amounts, there are others who, at reduced hourly rates, are sure to continue to gain enough business to a: make a living and b: interact with enough people to continue to hone their abilities to engage a client in conversation.

Admittedly I myself marvel at a select few of the higher priced women here on PERB, and usually tell myself that I wouldn`t quite pay their rates. I would prefer that if someone were charging $300 per hour, that her discounts for 2- and 3-hour sessions were a bit more significant than what is the prevailing norm.

While I am by no means out of the running for the $300 girls, I would really need to be inspired by her own engaging PERB persona or by impressive in-depth reviews of the comfortable environment she provides.

If I am really inspired by someone, I think that numbers near to $500 for a 3-hour session are about what suits me.

However I am quite thankful that it isn`t so difficult to go and cruise the local streets to find an occasional gem who is elated to spend two hours with me for perhaps $150 to $200. (yes, some out there would do that for a lot less, but the (SW) personalities with which I gel best, are those who would be in the $150-200 range for a couple of hours).

All in all, the free range of SP prices is probably a good thing for most of us, even if we have to fawn over the high priced gems from afar.

 

[Creole Lady Marmalade]

I'm not sure I benefit or lose with a positive review. According to a poll a while back asking the pooner population which ethnicity of SP you prefer or frequent, the majority was Causcasian, followed by Asian. My being of mixed heritage (Brazilian born but half Afro-Brazilian and half French) I suppose I fall into the two least desired categories after EI. I'm in a niche category and market.

anyways

to make my business that much more different and to set me apart from every other provider in the city, I've offered different rates for different services and discounts for qualified people. I don't think I'm undercutting anyone by offering these services at what I think are reasonable prices.

 

[SeekSteadyRegSP]

I'm not sure I benefit or lose with a positive review. According to a poll a while back asking the pooner population which ethnicity of SP you prefer or frequent, the majority was Causcasian, followed by Asian. My being of mixed heritage (Brazilian born but half Afro-Brazilian and half French) I suppose I fall into the two least desired categories after EI. I'm in a niche category and market.

anyways

to make my business that much more different and to set me apart from every other provider in the city, I've offered different rates for different services and discounts for qualified people. I don't think I'm undercutting anyone by offering these services at what I think are reasonable prices.

My goodness, I just went from the "Amateurs" thread at PERB (where I saw dozens of women whose eyes were what gave them away as having that still-uninitiated look that drives most men wild) to this posting, that suggests the opposite sense of self that I most yearn to see when out there.

I spent a large part of my day trying to coach/inspire a potentially new SP about how to present herself to the PERB community for best results for both her and for her clientele. This posting flies in the face of the vibe I was hoping to communicate.

My favorite SP of all time is half of South American descent and half of British descent. France is but a few miles from the British Isles, and your difference is merely the african descent in one-quarter of your heritage.

The implication from your words is that in your case, the African descent has not come via the horrible experiences inflicted upon others with African heritage by much of North America.

For that and other reasons, you are perfectly capable of not being pigeon-holed into a stereotype.

I'm hoping you will continue to impress people here with your interactive mind and hopefully with a little more self-confidence than the above quote hints at.

I just don't want to feeeeeeeeeel a woman I might meet sensing herself to be of the "least desired categories" of female companions.

And for the record, although I've never had the pleasure of spending time with an "EI" woman, I am deeply intrigued at the idea in large part because of the striking color contrasts which might be enjoyable to the naked eye.

If life were a mental challenge and no more, and if I were assigned to market you (Creole Lady) to the height of your potential, I would inspire you to continue to practice engaging the minds of your clientele, and to keep increasing your own knowledge about different aspects of life so that you might strike new customers as someone whose engaging persona caused her feminine curves to impress them double or triple than what they were expecting.

Don't lose track of the fact that a central element to how likely your new client is to repeat, is the difference between what his mind was expecting, and the actual session you shared!

If he wanted a nubile-seeming, tiny-breasted, lily-white teenager on this particular night, he would have phoned one! Now that he's in your court, you can wow him with your mind as much as with your body, playing all the while on positively surprising his expectations.

Creole Lady', I hope none of this sounds harsh, but I was just struck oddly by your statements that hinted at self-doubt resulting from a poll that you read here.

 

[westwoody]

where I come from we call it undercutting and it doesn't really happen cuz there are rules and standards which direct the caliber and behaviour of the ladies. Thats right, theres no girls who charge 150 for any full services,

Who are you to tell others what to charge? If they undercut you do you beat them up or set them up on a bad date?

it isn't worth it to see a client and give him good service cuz he will likely tell alll and then some in a review and then your boyfriend finds out and your fucked anyhow so it wasn't worth it to see the trick for 150!!!

If you have trouble with your boyfriend that's your problem.

 

[Johnny Walker]

LCM Good value

I saw you once years ago - didn't repeat for reasons not related to you (travel, etc). I think you provide good value (excellent session) and would do so at $, $$, or $$$. What pisses people off are the girls who are all talk and essentially a rip off for what they charge.

The fact is prices have gone up - hey, that's the world - doesn't stop us complaining about the price of gas.

If a girl charges $$$ for an hour she might be worth that, doesn't mean we wouldn't rather pay 10 year old prices. That really what these conversations are about. The guys are not talking value as much as sticker shock. Once the new prices settle in the chat will disappear. The market will take are of itself one whay or the other.

 

[Sigpig02]

And here I thought it was just another sign of the rising cost of living.

 

[Creole Lady Marmalade]

My goodness, I just went from the "Amateurs" thread at PERB (where I saw dozens of women whose eyes were what gave them away as having that still-uninitiated look that drives most men wild) to this posting, that suggests the opposite sense of self that I most yearn to see when out there.

I spent a large part of my day trying to coach/inspire a potentially new SP about how to present herself to the PERB community for best results for both her and for her clientele. This posting flies in the face of the vibe I was hoping to communicate.

My favorite SP of all time is half of South American descent and half of British descent. France is but a few miles from the British Isles, and your difference is merely the african descent in one-quarter of your heritage.

The implication from your words is that in your case, the African descent has not come via the horrible experiences inflicted upon others with African heritage by much of North America.

For that and other reasons, you are perfectly capable of not being pigeon-holed into a stereotype.

I'm hoping you will continue to impress people here with your interactive mind and hopefully with a little more self-confidence than the above quote hints at.

I just don't want to feeeeeeeeeel a woman I might meet sensing herself to be of the "least desired categories" of female companions.

And for the record, although I've never had the pleasure of spending time with an "EI" woman, I am deeply intrigued at the idea in large part because of the striking color contrasts which might be enjoyable to the naked eye.

If life were a mental challenge and no more, and if I were assigned to market you (Creole Lady) to the height of your potential, I would inspire you to continue to practice engaging the minds of your clientele, and to keep increasing your own knowledge about different aspects of life so that you might strike new customers as someone whose engaging persona caused her feminine curves to impress them double or triple than what they were expecting.

Don't lose track of the fact that a central element to how likely your new client is to repeat, is the difference between what his mind was expecting, and the actual session you shared!

If he wanted a nubile-seeming, tiny-breasted, lily-white teenager on this particular night, he would have phoned one! Now that he's in your court, you can wow him with your mind as much as with your body, playing all the while on positively surprising his expectations.

Creole Lady', I hope none of this sounds harsh, but I was just struck oddly by your statements that hinted at self-doubt resulting from a poll that you read here.

That was quite a mouth full. But that's not what I was trying to get across. I stated a mere observation resulting from a poll.

I do very well for myself with tons of room for more enterprising improvements. As my email addy suggests I am anything but ordinary and I live by those words. Familiarize yourself with some of my posts and website content. I really don't have a self-confidence issue especially if jackasses on the other board are calling me "fatso" and CLGuntelade and I invite it while I fall out of the chair laughing. I'm the only "tubby" gal on the MAV Top 5 list!!!! Now that's an honour.

 

[SeekSteadyRegSP]

Hi again,

I felt that you were reading-into the apparent results of the poll.

I am entirely unfamiliar with the poll itself, but to conclude that you exist in "the two least-desired categories" (of what men presumably desire in female companions) just didn't seem fair to yourself. And a knock against "EI" didn't seem so endearing as written.

Reading that just struck me odd.

By all means, keep enterprising, and I hope to see only positive presentations of your uniquenesses with time.

The individuality in each is enhanced by the variety in all of the rest.

If you don't happen to be the individual at this moment then you're always an important part of the variety.

 

[American Male]

I'm the only "tubby" gal on the MAV Top 5 list!!!! Now that's an honour.

Steph, you are NOT a tubby. You know that, of course, but I just felt like saying it anyway.

Now, I know that the American Male's Top 5 list is not nearly as prestigious as the MAV Top 5, but Stephanie would definately make my list as well. I have not thought this out carefully, so I am only prepared to say that two of the other members of the Top 5 would by Katie @ BBC and TT Tiffany. There are two other open spots which could be fillled by any number of more than worth candidates. I will contemplate this and get back to you all later.