Review Jenna last visit to Vancouver before retirement

[Jennabc]

Not that it matters what I say now, since you all have already deemed me a rip off. But just so you all know, long before I even knew about this post, I had come home to explain after numerous rude messages from Lurker, what had happened. I had offered him his 200 back, since our appointment was close to an hour over, not that it matters, he can have the whole damn thing back if he wants. About all the little gift, since you want to use them to throw them in my face, you can have those back too. I was always very gratefull and appreciative of them. I have gone out of my way for you too and never threw that in your face. Guess you forgot to mention all of those things in your "honest" post of me.

I wanted to put my money in the safe since the last "friend" that I had with me stole money from me. I chose a different friend to come with me this time and found out to late that she was very into drugs. As most of you all know, I have never been around that so, I didn't think to go down to the lobby to have a calm little chat with Lurker while my friend was ODing on the floor. I thought that getting to the hospital was more important. I am surprised that I even remembered to call and leave a message since he didn't answer the phone.

As soon as I got home, it was to a very nasty email from him accusing me of being a lier when I have never lied to him before.

I have never "run out on an appointment" before once since I have started working. Except for one time when I had an extremely drunk client insist that I get into a car with him so he could drive me back to the hotel. I refused and he yelled and made a scene. I still gave him the bennefit of the doubt and took a cab while he drove his car. Things got worse from there, and I left after that. I think that some of you may even remember our old friend Ciara and I can't belive how quick all of you were to judge me like that.

I had thought that once I leave to my new job, that I might still come on here and chat with you all, who I now consider some sort of friends of mine. I guess that I am not really welcomed here now, since you all hold such a high oppinion of me.

I would still like to say thanks to all for the laughs and good times.

Luv, Jenna~

BTW Lurker forgot to mention a whole lot of other little important "details" that made our "relationship" what it was. I was never anything but nice to him even after he would yell at me on my answering machine for cancelling appointments. I at least cancelled and always with as much notice as I was ever given.

 

[Hipster Doofus]

....and there you have it.

There's always two sides to every story. You'all should know that by now!

 

[Curley]

Something for me to think about ...

 

[daryl]

I think this continues to point out that we each have our own reality which is based upon what we know and how we interrupt that. This is based upon all that has happended to us in our lives to that point.

I also "check out" my assumptions and thoughts and then may rethink what is happening within me.

So for both Lurker and Jenna, I feel sadness for both of you and wish both of you to hear what the other is saying and then do with that what you will.

One episode does not make a relatonship but rather it adds to it.

Daryl

 

[The Fisherman]

I had offered him his 200 back, since our appointment was close to an hour over

Chances are he wouldn't have paid $200 for a dinner date if it wasn't going to be followed up with a $200 "fun" date. Must have been a hell of a conversation.

That's like having a movie break down in the middle and the theatre only refunding $5 cause you saw the first half.

 

[Lurker 123]

Not that it matters what I say now, since you all have already deemed me a rip off. But just so you all know, long before I even knew about this post, I had come home to explain after numerous rude messages from Lurker, what had happened. I had offered him his 200 back, since our appointment was close to an hour over, not that it matters, he can have the whole damn thing back if he wants. About all the little gift, since you want to use them to throw them in my face, you can have those back too. I was always very gratefull and appreciative of them. I have gone out of my way for you too and never threw that in your face. Guess you forgot to mention all of those things in your "honest" post of me.
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Dear Jenna,
I always respect you as a" lady", not a SP . I didn't mean to throw any thing on your face . I just wanted to show everyone I did not write this post with prejudice but as a anedote of what did happen to me that evening. In a way I am quite new to this business too.(exactly one year) The inexperience me caused me to pull my panic button! I am sorry to hurt you unitentionally!!

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I wanted to put my money in the safe since the last "friend" that I had with me stole money from me. I chose a different friend to come with me this time and found out to late that she was very into drugs. As most of you all know, I have never been around that so, I didn't think to go down to the lobby to have a calm little chat with Lurker while my friend was ODing on the floor. I thought that getting to the hospital was more important. I am surprised that I even remembered to call and leave a message since he didn't answer the phone.
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You did mention to me you want to put away your money for safety reason. I honoured that. However,you never mentioned you were accompanied with a friend. I thought you came alone.

When you said you took a friend for emergency,I was wondering where this friend came from?

Unforturnately I switched off my phone. Again it showed my respect to you,as I didn't want any interruption from a third person during our date. As I regarded this interruption from cell phone is ill manner.

In a normal situation,it is a common courtesy to inform the other person the emergency situation in person. There shouldn't be any mis-understanding. Unfortunately this was an unusual occurance happened at the wrong time at the wrong place.I also had no reason to believe such an incident could happen at that moment when I was supposed to have a good time with you!

Actually I had been trying to call you back at least 5 times within 15 minutes,but there was no answer from your side too. All these little details snow-balled up to a huge mis-understand and mis-communication!
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As soon as I got home, it was to a very nasty email from him accusing me of being a lier when I have never lied to him before.
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Again I apologise,it sounded so unreal! Again it was the second time you used a similar excuse for another cancellation before. To my imagination ,it sounded as if you were playing with me !Especially this time before your retirement. You may have a chance not seeing me anymore!

Another sign of mis-communication. You never called me back to explain the situation!

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I had thought that once I leave to my new job, that I might still come on here and chat with you all, who I now consider some sort of friends of mine. I guess that I am not really welcomed here now, since you all hold such a high oppinion of me.
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I don't think so. As I mentioned in my e-mail to you. What you need is a clear communication to avoid building any misunderstanding. This time,your story has puzzled everyone ,not just me. However as soon as you came out and clarified the situation,everyone will understand. We are all mature adults!
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BTW Lurker forgot to mention a whole lot of other little important "details" that made our "relationship" what it was. I was never anything but nice to him even after he would yell at me on my answering machine for cancelling appointments. I at least cancelled and always with as much notice as I was ever given.

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I always appreciate your service and gesture. I recognise you have been wearing my bracelet all the time,a very good token of your appreciation.That's why I love to meet you every week if possible.

Sometimes I do have a temper after a long day of work. I always admit to you my wrong doing. I always show the truthful side to you too!Am I an animal? No,I am always a gentleman and I never force you to do anything which make you feel uncomfortable!

As you have known me for awhile . I go out to work in the morning until meeting you at night. Your cancellation e-mail never reached me on time on the day. I arrived your hotel waited and waited for an hour and couldn't reach you on the phone! It happened to me a few times.If you want ,you could ask the hotel employees. Even they know me quite well because of the waiting.

I did complain to you. In one of my e-mail to you,I said please leave a message on my voice mail instead and I will pay you back your distant call phone bill. If I have a unforgiving bad temper,I should have left long gone!

Jenna , I am not giving you a lesson. You need to improve your communication skills. This issue has created many unnecessary mistunderstanding.

 

[Lurker 123]

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So for both Lurker and Jenna, I feel sadness for both of you and wish both of you to hear what the other is saying and then do with that what you will.

One episode does not make a relatonship but rather it adds to it.
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Hey Daryl,
Thank you very much for your comment.Much appreciated!

 

[Hipster Doofus]

yo Lurker123 - this is what you need to do.

Set up a Paypal account and email Jenna the account number. She'll transfer the money back to you if she is sincere.

Then back off. There is no happy ending to this episode in your life.

Some clients are known to be " high maintenance" or "suffocating" and your behaviour exhibits some that.

What you may think is an act of kindness/understanding can be creepy if the recipient doesnt want it.

Remember Kathy Bates displaying "kindness" to James Caan in Misery? Do you want that kindness? Kindness RAMMED DOWN YOUR THROAT!

If you've ever thought to yourself "She needs me" or " I can make her life easier" or "I'm better then the rest of her clients" or " I just want to talk to her." then you might be suffocating. There is a fine line between being a good client and one that is obsessed.

Remember that stalkers and pedophiles never believe they are harming their victims. ( because they love them?) Clients CAN AND DO obsess with escorts all the time. The trick is to recognize it in yourself.

 

[Lurker 123]

So which is it? Her friend, whom she brought with her, was lying on the floor OD'ing on drugs? Or did she have another friend, somewhere else, who had a medical emergency and called and left a message on Jenna's voicemail?

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Hi duff

just want to clarify:That was the message I received. It is still in my voice mail. (very rush)

She called my name,then said I just can't. I have to take my girlfriend to hospital. Call me later. I will talk to you soon!

 

[Jennabc]

Well, well well.

I don't recall ever refering to Lurker as a stalker. He is definatly one of my highest maintenence clients. On any given day, he will repetedly call my cel phone 5-10 times in a row, every second call leaving a message. That is the way it actually is, but I never did state that here publicly. That is none of anyones business but mine.

Also, I would like to thank some of you for going into very grafic and disgusting detail about the way my friend may or may not have been when I returned to our hotel room. There are many personal reasons why I didn't call 911, none of which are anyones business here. Also, I am not to sure which one of you had said that I could hardly lift some one to my car, but I assure you, I could most likely carry anyone of you here, if there was some medical emergency at hand to any car. If you are truly concerned about someones well being, adreneline will kick in help you no matter what. Either that or I just care enough to do what needs to be done. I would like for all of you to instead of continuing to speak ill of someone who is no longer here to instead return to bad talk about me since there has to be some. I am not a cruel person and I would like to kindly ask anyone who may be out there reading this to please step forward and let this board know if I have ever done anything of this sort to you. Or even if someone may have heard of me doing anything of this sort to anyone else. I am not this kind of person. I am one of the most straight forward, honest people that I have ever been around. Because of that I get the most flak.

I would also like to point out that I have not yet received any means of returning the money, all 400 of it, even though our appointment was almost an hour long and maybe now that Lurker has calmed down a bit will de-emphisise his story to that. I showed up a few minutes late, like I always do and always have. Not that it is a good quality, but if you do a search on any of my reveiws you will see that most of them start out by saying "Jenna arrived a few minutes late". I don't go out of my way to do this, it is just who I am and who I have always been. Some of you, wether you know me or not, especially those of you who are my 'regulars', know that is the way I am. Anyways, someone mentioned that I still should have gone down to explain the situation, but I thought that rather, I should try and save a life and if you all think of me poorly for that than so be it. I had hoped to leave here with the same good name that I have had the entire time that I have been around on this board, personally and reviewed, but I guess not. I have never and never would intentionally rip anyone off. I have had ample oppertunity to take alot of men for alot more money then that and I never have. I have more self respect for myself then that. Anyone who has ever met me, if even only once, would know that.

If anyone else would care to receive the 400 on Lurkers behalf to make up maybe for some of your pent up anger towards some other SP who had ripped you off enought that you feel you have to embelish my story here and make it seem worse, let me know. I have never been some kind of 'take the money and run' kind of girl. I wouldn't have been in this business this long if I was. Why the hell would I for some measly 400 that I have already many times offered to return.

Obviously the money wasn't even the issue with him or else he would have already received it from me.

I am most definatly going to cancel my last trip to Vancouver because I would hate for any of you to worry the whole appointment that I was there to rip you off. I don't even have time now to be doing these kinds of trips, but since I have made such a friendship with most of my clients, they were out of respect. I don't think that cancelling last minute and disappearing is the nicest thing to do to these people who have been so good to me all this time. I wanted to personally say good bye and say thank you for everything, not make some quick cash run. There are even some of you here on the boards that I have never met, but since even here, typing with someone is enough to develope a relationship of sorts, I was willing to meet and say thanks and good bye to you all too. There are even some of you that I had hoped to have just a stricktly non-business 'let's go have coffee' type thing with. I don't understand how some people are so quick to judge and assume. Why don't all of you look in the mirror and review yourselves and let me know which one of you is perfect. Which one of you has never mad a decision in haste and then had to suffer this much for it. I am going through all of this in my personal life right now. I have recently had alot of very close people in my personal life find out what my job has been. They all loved and embrased me as a person and loved who I was, but since a few weeks ago when everyone and their dog found out, I have now lost all of those people in my life and now also a really good job. All of this because of quick to judge. I am sorry for bringing this up, it has nothing to do with the topic at hand, but it is the same thing going on here. If any of you care just to get to know me, meet me, see what kind of a person I am, I think you will better understand this whole situation. I hightly doubt that anyone here that has said nasty things about me would make the same offer. I have a very big heart with nothing but stupid naive trust that had always ended up hurting me. I am no longer an SP and wether or not I wanted to be ever again, wouldn't really be that profitable for me now after this anyways. So on that note there are some of you I would still love to see once and a while for the 'coffee' visit. Some of you have already asked and you all know who you are. I hope that none of you are ever so cruely judged so quickly. Let me tell you that it is very painfull!

Luv, Jenna~

 

[Jennabc]

BTW,

I never once told Lurker that I had received a message from a friend in trouble. I only told him, the truth, which was that I wanted to put my money in the safe!

Luv, Jenna~

 

[Hipster Doofus]

I never said anyone was a stalker either.

I said suffocating and high maintenance are things that are considered to be a no-no.

 

[Calgary69]

I for one have found Jenna to be everything she has claimed to be. One of the last things I did before my retirement was to post reviews of all the girls I have seen on the coast. Jenna was one of them. Yes, she is a little late but I thought she made that up and more with the time we spent together. I certainly found her to be quite honest and one of the sweetest SP's I have ever had the pleasure of meeting. I can honestly say that if I had lived in Victoria, I would be broke. Jenna would have all my money cause I would be seeing her every chance I got.

If I was in Lurkers position, yes I would be wondering WTF but I would at least give someone who has been more than just an SP to me the benefit of the doubt and at least find out why or what happened. I would commend Jenna for trying to save someone's life. Money comes and money goes but there is always more. Can anyone say the same about a human life?

When I first read this thread, honestly I was taken aback but I reserved judgement till I at least got to hear the other side.

Sorry to hear about your job but I know you will bounce back.

I wish you nothing but the best in whatever you choose to do and happy retirement.

 

[steverino]

While quite new here I've observed several occassions (Gillian, Lisa, Jenna) where one side of a story is posted and before the target of the post is allowed or able to reply several Perb members offer their very speculative opinions.

Jenna has been accused, and in some minds convicted, of a grand scheme to first spend an hour with a regular customer and then create a diversion to avoid the second hour. Does anyone really think this is the case? To me this sounds preposterous. I really hope Jenna receives an outpouring of well wishes as she leaves the biz.

Lurker meanwhile has been psychoanalyzed to determine if he is a stalker or lesser form of deviant. Feel bad for him too.

Lesson learned for me is that if you have a disagreement with an SP/client take at least a few days if not a week to try and reconcile the differences before posting. For Perberts if a post is made let's give the target an opportunity to respond before making judgements.

 

[Lurker 123]

BTW,

I never once told Lurker that I had received a message from a friend in trouble. I only told him, the truth, which was that I wanted to put my money in the safe!

Luv, Jenna~

Someone was asking the phone message you left on my voice mail which I have clarified earlier already.
Your message is still in my voice mail saying you were taking a friend to hospital.

 

[Dr.Love]

I find this whole exchange very sad. For a relationship between an escort and a long-term, regular client to end in this manner is most unfortunate. Rather than engage in judgment, however, I'd suggest that those of us who have simply been reading the thread might reflect on it to see if we might learn something from it that could improve our own relationships. I think I have. But I still feel sad for both Jenna and Lurker.

 

[Lurker 123]

Well, well well.

I don't recall ever refering to Lurker as a stalker. He is definatly one of my highest maintenence clients. On any given day, he will repetedly call my cel phone 5-10 times in a row, every second call leaving a message. That is the way it actually is, but I never did state that here publicly. That is none of anyones business but mine.

Luv, Jenna~

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I just want to point out that I didn't call you everyday nor I have the time.I work 56 hours weekly(10 hours straight daily).You have exaggerated . I only tried to call you to get hold of you to confirm the appointment when you didn't reply after a few days. Unfortunately either I called you at the wrong time or you didn't bother to answer. It took me more than 10 times before i could reach you. After that I stopped phoning! At least I had the courtesy to leave a message instead of just hanging up!!


I never wanted to have a costly phone bill too!

As mentioned before it was a very unusual occurance, everyone was in a puzzle. I didn't mean to judge nor I agree with everybody's comment. I have done my apology and I am letting it go. Once again it was my anedote report. Even the Victoria Moderator praised my "less than satisfactory experience review" as an example of words without imflammatory language!

However I have made one very good contribution in this thread is
"It is essential to maintain a good communication between clients and SP to avoid any unnecesasary confrontation!"

I remain as a gentleman . Even to my style of writing,I never include one single fowl language .I am not begging but I do deserve to have a fair word .To question I didn't know,I did not answer nor adding further comment.

$400 is not an issue to me neither. As in my private e-mail to you,
stating you can keep it as my token of good will!Again no further comment from me!( please don't throw that"D" word at me!)To my other gifts,they were my token of appreciation. Please keep them!

I do like to praise you Jenna as a wonderful person to whom I am very proud to know. From many other stories you told me,I understand how sincere you treat your friends in need. Apart from this life saving story,there was another one which happened about a month ago which again you put away everything and stood up for your friend in need!( I believe many of you had read BC Darlings board saying Jenna was away three weeks ago)

Jenna ,I do deserve to have a fair word from here. After you returned from Alberta, it was you who e-mailed me first to ask if I still wanted to see you!

At the end ,I hope I have done my best to restore your name. As you have given me a nick name "Trouble Maker" Perhaps it does fit me. I also learn my lesson to calm down!

I wish you all the best in your new career and future!

 

[Curley]

Desert Dog ...
Thanks for the solution to avoid some very unpleasant events which can and will happen within this "hobby" of ours.

Personally, I have chosen to take a slightly different approach to conducting this "personal" business. When I see a new SP I make sure all is in order before she arrives ... such as

1. all of my valuables ... wallet, passport, etc. are in the hotel room safe (most have them) ... otherwise I lock them in my briefcase or car.

2. The funds are on the nightstand and not in an envelope, with large bills so counts can be done without picking them up.

3. From greeting her at the door to entering the farther side of the room ... near the funds ... I try to access whether ...
a. is she the gal I requested ... no bait & switch
b. is she not clean ... tough one as I must use the initial hug to tell.
c. if she smells like smoke ... I have asthma ... too tough on me ... then I must decide how bad it is ... ya know. Fresh smelling hair is a great sign and breath is almost always fine.

I'm not sure if this is any help but most of time I haven't been taken advantage of ... with repeats, I have to admit that most like me as a person, something that I find personally satisfying (we all have some ego) and I never forget ... it's a business ... I work very hard at my career ... but God I really love what I do ... hey, why can't they?

I believe this was a nickel's worth ...

 

[CaryGrant]

Would you marry an SP/Client?

This has been a thought-provoking thread for me. Sad to say, I find it hard to believe an SP when when she tells me nice things about myself, or when she seems to be enjoying what we`re doing...I find it too easy to attribute her kind words or pleasure to simply being "part of the job." However, I suspect that may be more a reflection of the current state of my self-esteem than anything else. Some SPs are very sweet, some are lusty, some seem quite honest and forthright...surely that can`t all be just part of the job?

It did prompt me to start a poll in The Lounge:

I would like to believe that SPs are women much like any other woman, and that if I met the right one I would not reject her because she is or was an SP. (Haven`t found one yet, though!) Would you marry an SP/client?

 

[Curley]

CaryGrant ... good thread ...

May I add one item on how I view a visit with my very special SP ... she knows who she is and the list may just grow ...

When I go to the movies and see a science fiction movie ... like Star Trek ... I try to get myself into the scene ... I don't question every line or special effect ... I want to believe, knowing when the shows over and I go out the doors ... I return to reality ...

Seeing an SP is much like that to me ... what's the harm ... I'm a very nice gentleman who treats the lady like she should be ... with respect and affection ...

go with the flow ... life is way too short ...

if you can't be with the one you love, call your friendly SP!