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Harmony-bc

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I think it’s pretty easy to avoid the appliance seeking guys. Charge low enough to be busy but high enough to keep away the bargain hunters. I like to stay in the middle of what the going rate is. Have a detailed website that attracts like minded people and ads with proper grammar. I’m quick to tell somebody we’re not compatible if I don’t think I can offer what they’re looking for. My clients as an independent have always been fantastic. The only times I’ve ever ran into issues is working for somebody else.

Rina mood is bang on that escort clients are better behaved than men out in the wild.

(rates are personal and none of my business what others charge)
 

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I think it’s pretty easy to avoid the appliance seeking guys. Charge low enough to be busy but high enough to keep away the bargain hunters. I like to stay in the middle of what the going rate is. Have a detailed website that attracts like minded people and ads with proper grammar. I’m quick to tell somebody we’re not compatible if I don’t think I can offer what they’re looking for. My clients as an independent have always been fantastic. The only times I’ve ever ran into issues is working for somebody else.

Rina mood is bang on that escort clients are better behaved than men out in the wild.

(rates are personal and none of my business what others charge)
I agree! Rates, to me, are for managing the desired amount of working time, volume, and that comes together to the bottom line 💫 Going indie had been the best decision for my overall health and balance in my life 💙
 

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Painting in broad strokes, I'd guess there are two types of men who visit SPs.

1.) Those who just want to rent an appliance to get themselves off as many times as possible in the allotted time.

2.) Those who want to savour some quality time with a nice woman who isn't their wife, girlfriend or mother.
This guy could be the same guy on any given day.
 

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Alot of woman have VERY different experiences than you. Especially in dating.
I'm happy that they experience better, and I hope that many do 🥰 I can definitely claim that I enjoy my clients more than the significantly fewer men I had seen privately 💫 That's why I started my response with "my experience"!

Adding: honestly, I wish I had realized that age gaps were perfectly cozy earlier. I didn't realize it until I was working and had gained more experience with talking to guys. The guys that were close to my age when I was out and about dating maybe just weren't quite there yet with their efforts. I was always serving and taking care of them as I was raised to, and now I get to do that without feeling undervalued 😇
 
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No, I'm not talking about myself obviously. Way to be passive-aggressive instead of letting others share their opinions.
I'm sure you're an expert on every escort and woman's experience.

I'm also basing my opinions on what I've heard from escorts, sugar babies, sex workers, non-sex worker woman, as well as what I've seen first hand.
Sorry to hear that women don't trust you enough to be candid with you.
Lmao Thank you I needed that
 

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I worked as a bouncer at a brothel and drove some of the women there to outcalls for two summers during college. I agree with this, it’s about 10-20% normal guys, and 80% are total weirdos you wouldn't want to be around, or associate with.
This is true for a lot of agencies and some parlors.

Outcall only agencies attract some real characters. So many greasy coke dates. 90% of the outcall dates I wished never asked for me again. But you could make decent money on a busy night. I just booked on once in a while. Mostly I had my own ad on Eros and here as well as whatever parlor I was at. (Back then)

Cheap parlors attract bottom of the barrel clients. I worked at 2 different cheap places because they were close to home. Both places I lasted 3 days. Greasy smelly rude people ugh.

70% of the dates at the touch or platinum club were fantastic, 20% were ok, and 10% were totally ignorant to how the tipping worked there. So sometimes you had a straight. A straight being the house gets paid but you don’t.

Being independent, I can attract the people I want to spend time with. I’m a total pervert who loves kink and sex and any gender but I’m not submissive and hygiene is super important to me.
 

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I never wanted to work out of my own apartment. I had some kind of block towards that so worked in parlors and agencies. The best thing I ever did was get over that. It was after I had some things stolen from me and the touch was so slow that I was like f it, I’m gonna just work from home. Roll out of bed and I’m already in the office haha.
 

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This is true for a lot of agencies and some parlors.

Outcall only agencies attract some real characters. So many greasy coke dates. 90% of the outcall dates I wished never asked for me again. But you could make decent money on a busy night. I just booked on once in a while. Mostly I had my own ad on Eros and here as well as whatever parlor I was at. (Back then)

Cheap parlors attract bottom of the barrel clients. I worked at 2 different cheap places because they were close to home. Both places I lasted 3 days. Greasy smelly rude people ugh.

70% of the dates at the touch or platinum club were fantastic, 20% were ok, and 10% were totally ignorant to how the tipping worked there. So sometimes you had a straight. A straight being the house gets paid but you don’t.

Being independent, I can attract the people I want to spend time with. I’m a total pervert who loves kink and sex and any gender but I’m not submissive and hygiene is super important to me.
Thank you for a more detailed explanation.

That's more in line with what I have been told over the years.

All depends on the market someone caters to ...purposely or by chance sometimes
 
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That makes a lot of sense, different places will attract different types of customers. The place I worked at was quite high-end, with rates starting at $500 an hour, and many were charging up to $1000 an hour. I can't go into too much detail or reveal where it was for privacy reasons, but it wasn't in Canada.
I guess it also depends on how the woman feels about working. I’ve worked with women before who would trash talk every single date, even the good dates. Almost like it makes them cooler to hate their clients. So many girls have low self esteem and want to impress whoever they’re with. I’m sure drivers would have a skewed opinion that isn’t totally based on truth.

But regardless, independent is where the true work happiness is lol. Being your own boss and having choice is a luxurious privilege

At the touch one time, I didn’t want to see a cheap arrogant guy and was told I could go home. So I saw him and he was a straight, he only offered me an extra hundred for sex. I was so mad but had to massage him with a smile.

I’m not a judgmental person tho. I can connect to and enjoy just about anybody.
 
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I'm always nice, polite and respectful in the presence of SPs and massage ladies. A perfect gentleman.

In spite of this, there have been times that I have been treated poorly in this game. The SP was rushed, unclean, or just plain rude. I'm sure many of us have been there.

One memorable SP refused to see me for a second time because, she said, my very essence "lingers like herpes."
 

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I don’t barter but I don’t judge people that barter, the SP can always reject or block them.
After what I had seen 2 days ago, I totally understand why some SPs don’t like to see East Indian pooners. I thought it was because of poor hygiene or bartering but these assholes did not leave their misogyny back home and think that the SPs owe them their lives.

My friend and I booked an outcall to our place, based on X’s recommendation and the girl cancelled last minute and wanted to reschedule and we were fucking disappointed but understood that mistakes happen and we were ok with that, but this X guy who was not even in the picture was sending her aggressive texts scolding her for cancelling on us. All 3 of us are Indians 🤦
This fucking ruins it for other Indian men that are respectful towards other women.
 

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I'm always nice, polite and respectful in the presence of SPs and massage ladies. A perfect gentleman.

In spite of this, there have been times that I have been treated poorly in this game. The SP was rushed, unclean, or just plain rude. I'm sure many of us have been there.

One memorable SP refused to see me for a second time because, she said, my very essence "lingers like herpes."
I treat them respectfully as well, I have only seen 6 providers till now, 4 out of the 6 were amazing experiences.
One had too many restrictions, but I would still see her as she reminds of someone that l like.
One was with Jia Surrey, I guess I don’t have to add anything here.
 
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I don’t barter but I don’t judge people that barter, the SP can always reject or block them.
After what I had seen 2 days ago, I totally understand why some SPs don’t like to see East Indian pooners. I thought it was because of poor hygiene or bartering but these assholes did not leave their misogyny back home and think that the SPs owe them their lives.

My friend and I booked an outcall to our place, based on X’s recommendation and the girl cancelled last minute and wanted to reschedule and we were fucking disappointed but understood that mistakes happen and we were ok with that, but this X guy who was not even in the picture was sending her aggressive texts scolding her for cancelling on us. All 3 of us are Indians 🤦
This fucking ruins it for other Indian men that are respectful towards other women.
Some of my favorite clients are Indian. The way I advertise, my rates, and the fact that I immediately block assholes without even a reply, keeps away the negotiators and the problem guys. But if somebody does negotiate it’s almost always an Indian guy haha.

Your right. Life does happen. I’ve been canceled on last minute and I’ve also had to cancel last minute. 6 months ago my dog was all of a sudden very sick and I had to take her to the vet. I had to cancel a prebooked multi hour date. An expensive few hours later, we were home with medication and she’s fine.

a few months ago, I had a very expensive photo shoot booked and I woke up to my kitty not eating and hiding. I had to cancel that appointment with less than an hours notice. I was texting her from the vets office. She was totally cool and rescheduled with no hassle. My kitty had advanced kidney disease. He was 19 tho. Almost 20. My bestest guy ever. I tried to save him so that was also a very expensive week with me ultimately making the hard choice $2000 later.

Sometimes it just might be a girls mental health that needs looking after. Sometimes it might be she just wants to go party but so what?

People that accept cancellations with empathy and class are my kind of people.
 

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Some of my favorite clients are Indian. The way I advertise, my rates, and the fact that I immediately block assholes without even a reply, keeps away the negotiators and the problem guys. But if somebody does negotiate it’s almost always an Indian guy haha.

Your right. Life does happen. I’ve been canceled on last minute and I’ve also had to cancel last minute. 6 months ago my dog was all of a sudden very sick and I had to take her to the vet. I had to cancel a prebooked multi hour date. An expensive few hours later, we were home with medication and she’s fine.

a few months ago, I had a very expensive photo shoot booked and I woke up to my kitty not eating and hiding. I had to cancel that appointment with less than an hours notice. I was texting her from the vets office. She was totally cool and rescheduled with no hassle. My kitty had advanced kidney disease. He was 19 tho. Almost 20. My bestest guy ever. I tried to save him so that was also a very expensive week with me ultimately making the hard choice $2000 later.

Sometimes it just might be a girls mental health that needs looking after. Sometimes it might be she just wants to go party but so what?

People that accept cancellations with empathy and class are my kind of people.
Exactly as long as it’s not a pattern with the cancellations I don’t mind giving the benefit of doubt.
I negotiate like crazy but not with providers or small businesses but if I find a wealthy person selling something I want I fucking nickel and dime until they accept or ask me to fuck off. lol
 

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Exactly as long as it’s not a pattern with the cancellations I don’t mind giving the benefit of doubt.
I negotiate like crazy but not with providers or small businesses but if I find a wealthy person selling something I want I fucking nickel and dime until they accept or ask me to fuck off. lol
That is 100% acceptable and a trait I admire. I have a gf who is always getting the best deal. I never even try haha.
 

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I don’t barter but I don’t judge people that barter, the SP can always reject or block them.
After what I had seen 2 days ago, I totally understand why some SPs don’t like to see East Indian pooners. I thought it was because of poor hygiene or bartering but these assholes did not leave their misogyny back home and think that the SPs owe them their lives.

My friend and I booked an outcall to our place, based on X’s recommendation and the girl cancelled last minute and wanted to reschedule and we were fucking disappointed but understood that mistakes happen and we were ok with that, but this X guy who was not even in the picture was sending her aggressive texts scolding her for cancelling on us. All 3 of us are Indians 🤦
This fucking ruins it for other Indian men that are respectful towards other women.
I'm half Iranian and we are seen no differently and the asshole behaviour is no different either. This man-Karen entitlement behaviour. It's so normalized sadly that people don't tell their friends or relatives to tone it down. I hate to say it, but it has made me biased. I refuse to most queries on market place from Middle Eastern and South Asians because it always starts with an immediate lowball offer.
 
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That is 100% acceptable and a trait I admire. I have a gf who is always getting the best deal. I never even try haha.
Haha and thank you for not generalizing the entire group because of some bad apples, you are on my TDL and I hope I will see you soon.
 

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I'm half Iranian and we are seen no differently and the asshole behaviour is no different either. This man-Karen entitlement behaviour. It's so normalized sadly that people don't tell their friends or relatives to tone it down. I hate to say it, but it has made me biased. I refuse to most queries on market place from Middle Eastern and South Asians because it always starts with an immediate lowball offer.
Even if you tell these friends they don’t listen to you, ask me how I know.
I am one of those assholes who lowballs on FB marketplace, but I only do it to some folks, when you see a used 6 foot folding table for $5 less than what you get at Costco, wtf am I supposed to😜
 

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Even if you tell these friends they don’t listen to you, ask me how I know.
I am one of those assholes who lowballs on FB marketplace, but I only do it to some folks, when you see a used 6 foot folding table for $5 less than what you get at Costco, wtf am I supposed to😜
Well yeah there are those who sell things outrageously high. They'll be selling it for $200 cause they bought it brand new for $500 years prior, but they'll ignore that it's now brand new $250 on Amazon. I generally check what something costs brand new and what others within my area sell something for and the condition before putting the price.
 
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