re-posted "what makes a good review board"

[Moderator]

*Moderator note: This post is copied from another board. I see no reason not to have a civil and respectable disscusion on the topic.



Here is a start and by no way complete or well thought out (more the latter than the former):

1. SPs cannot post in Review Section of Board or comment on a review anywhere else
2. Discussion on reviews is limited to questions and answers not bashing the reviewer ("don't like the review", write your own would be the motto)
3. No such thing as "No Review Lists" - you are out there, you may and likely will get reviewed...deal with it
4. No moderation (post removal) for anything other than obvious shills (smart people can figure out fake reviews and don't need "protection" from some big brother moderator)
5. No ability to edit posts after 2 hours - if you post it, you better mean it
6. No ability to have one's posts deleted upon "retirement" from a board or otherwise
7. Any form of obvious harassment of SP or pooner will not be tolerated
8. Can only use private message functions after posting five or more reviews
9. No wagging tongue avatars
10. No reviews of SOs that happen to be SPs
11. Hamster is allowed to stay on the board as long as he wants
12. Linking to, or making note of, information on another review board is entirely fine and encouraged (not otherwise)
13. Any and all forms of lapdog behaviour will not be tolerated
14. Any review that starts "Long time lurker and please don't crap on this newbie but I just fucked the most incredible creature on the planet....." and then gives 9's across the board and that "newbie" has not only all the lingo down but sounds like a P*mp extrodanaire will not only not be tolerated, the review will be removed and replaced with a glowing review of Ssssh***a using the reviewer's handle"

You are welcome (everyone is) to add to this list or simply comment on it.



If someone doesn't want to be reviewed, then they should pick a new way to make money.

Anyone with a Perb account is welcome to post this as a suggestion over there. I am taking bets it would last as a post all of 15 to 30 minutes and get you into the penalty box equally quickly. Oh, and your handle would be one more added to the list that are "mine"

But, seriously, that is the problem with a review board that actually "isn't". The above should be something every pooner (and non-pimp) would embrace. They why should it be taboo to post it on a review board? Seriously, that is simply fucked up. Go ahead, either link it or simply cut paste (I release all copyright!).....for anyone who doubts that Perbland is no longer a review board simply give it a go. Prove me wrong.

 

[twoblues]

My .02 cents

I am new to this board, but not new to discussion boards in general. Due to the fact that I am working on a Sunday and am bored stiff, I shall offer my opinions.

1. I disagree:

I think SP's should be able to post in response to a review. We are all smart enough to recognize the "he said, she said" type responses when we see them. What I do like to see, though, is a genuine attempt by an SP to answer questions/situations brought up by the reviewer. I have seen some SP's get a below average review, but, by reading their response, my opinion of the SP has changed for the better due to their well-worded response.

2. Agreed. Common sense, really.

3. Agreed, again.

Though, it's more a question of the morals of the client. If an SP told me not to write a review, I'd stay quiet because I'd respect her choice.

4. Tough call

One person's idea of what a shill review is can differ from another persons view. Moderation is always necessary for all public forums. That's just the way it is.

5. Sounds interesting.

6. Sounds good.

It prevents running across "missing" replies in threads. Though, I'd think that an SP who changes their name for whatever reason, should be able to have their posts removed, or at least the profile/picture associated with it.

7. Yup.

8. Will not work

Because people will just generate 5 useless posts.

9. Que?

10. Sure.

Though, wouldn't that fall into the "shill" category mentioned in #4.?

11. Hey, why not.

That actor, Mr. Gere, liked his "hamster" too.

12. Sure.

13. Lapdog?

Do you mean fawning over an SP because the experience was so great that you cannot bear to see a negative review?


My addition. When working in an empty office on a Sunday, resist the urge to make an appointment with an SP for that "office fantasy". Instead, blare old school Guns 'N Roses out of your speakers and lurk on the Perb website.

 

[OTBn]

*Moderator note: This post is copied from another board. I see no reason not to have a civil and respectable disscusion on the topic.


3. No such thing as "No Review Lists" - you are out there, you may and likely will get reviewed...deal with it

Reading between the lines... perhaps a little "one-upmanship" at play to actually see this as a moderator post. Nice touch.

To the point - Moderator - why does Perb maintain a No Review List? Why is that List not published/shared with the membership?

 

[Avery]

1. Disagree - I see no reason why SPs shouldn't be allowed to post in review threads, as long as they don't attack the reviewer or others who comment on it.

2. Agree - bashing the reviewer should not be tolerated, and should be treated like all other forms of personal attack.

3. Agree - any escort who advertises publicly should expect to be reviewed.

4. Disagree - the board would descend into a cesspool of personal attacks without moderation.

5. Disagree - the current 24 hour period is fine by me. It allows a cooling off period and sometimes helps avoid flame wars. I once inadvertently posted an intended nasty PM on the public board and only noticed it several hours later. Fortunately, I deleted it before the target saw it.

6. Agree - I've always thought it was ridiculous to allow the practice. Many useful posts have disappeared as a result because deleting the first post in a thread causes the whole thread to disappear.

7. Agree - that's a no-brainer.

8. Agree - in fact, I'd increase it to 20 posts.

9. Disagree - who cares?

10. Agree, but how would we know for sure that the reviewer is the SP's SO?

11. No clue what that means.

12. Agree - why not?

13. Agree, but a little flirting and stroking is OK, as long as it's not overtly promotional.

14. Agree with most of it, but WTF does this mean?

and replaced with a glowing review of Ssssh***a using the reviewer's handle

Other suggestions:

15. For each geographic forum, have a 411 and General Discussion Forum (for local issues only; general industry and other issues belong in The Lounge).

16. Allow local SPs to post a limited numbers of announcements in the local forums. Most pooners don't read the advertising forums.

 

[Hoops]

I absolutely agree with not deleting posts upon retirement.
So what if someone leaves the board? The posts should stay.

 

[FuZzYknUckLeS]

...
3. No such thing as "No Review Lists" - you are out there, you may and likely will get reviewed...deal with it

I've said this since day 1. As long as this list exists, this place is little more than a chat room.
...

...11. Hamster is allowed to stay on the board as long as he wants...

I assume Hamster was the original author of this post? Otherwise, WHAT THE FUK?!

As for the rest of the nonsense listed, if a mod wants to go thru the hassle of policing all that, feel free. Hope ya got mad time on yer hands.

 

[Moderator]

I must add that that my above post was not written by me (should be obvious because it is well written), but by another poster on another board that I copied and pasted.

 

[afterplay]

1. SPs cannot post in Review Section of Board or comment on a review anywhere else

I guess that's fair enough if the non-sp's can't even post "Nice Photos!" in an ad thread. Still, I like to hear the SPs side of the story when someone posts something really negative. Maybe a "kangaroo court" forum to discuss otherwise-one-sided posts.

2. Discussion on reviews is limited to questions and answers not bashing the reviewer ("don't like the review", write your own would be the motto)

And follow-up reviews. Just stay on topic.

3. No such thing as "No Review Lists" - you are out there, you may and likely will get reviewed...deal with it

Agreed. No-review is something to be discussed at session time... If you have an ad out there, thats a pretty clear indication that you want people to know about your business.

4. No moderation (post removal) for anything other than obvious shills (smart people can figure out fake reviews and don't need "protection" from some big brother moderator)

I wish this were possible. Maybe I just don't enough faith in humanity to believe that twits won't come along to try ruin the playground.

5. No ability to edit posts after 2 hours - if you post it, you better mean it

At least 12. I need more time to reconsider my grammar and diction.

6. No ability to have one's posts deleted upon "retirement" from a board or otherwise.

Disagree. If you're permanently banned, your drivel may be deleted at the discretion of the board management on the grounds that you no longer have a place here. If have to leave because of something in the real world, you really ought to be able to clean up before you go. It's part of that discretion thing we seem to value.

7. Any form of obvious harassment of SP or pooner will not be tolerated

Should be obvious...

8. Can only use private message functions after posting five or more reviews

Disagree. What about booking sessions by PM? A better thing would be to ignore PM requests for numbers until review are posted.

10. No reviews of SOs that happen to be SPs

You mean "no pimping your SO"...

12. Linking to, or making note of, information on another review board is entirely fine and encouraged (not otherwise)

Agreed.

13. Any and all forms of lapdog behaviour will not be tolerated

Where's the fun in that! Just make sure the ignore button works.

14. Any review that starts "Long time lurker and please don't crap on this newbie but I just fucked the most incredible creature on the planet....." and then gives 9's across the board and that "newbie" has not only all the lingo down but sounds like a P*mp extrodanaire will not only not be tolerated, the review will be removed and replaced with a glowing review of Ssssh***a using the reviewer's handle"

"Sounds like a pimp extraordinaire" seems to be the critical criterion. I read a bunch of boards, and looked up all the "rules" and abbreviations before I ever saw my first SP. ... who just happened to not like reviews.

I'm on another board, and I saw a new lady in the area that that board serves... I had a good session and said as much. As it turns out, her service was inconsistent; some more established posters had good results with her, others didn't. I didn't sound all pimpy, but until a few others had her on a good night, my review was certainly suspect. How do deal with that?

The local mods seem to be pretty funny when they replace posts with "This review was deleted because I am a lying sack of shit who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground." or similar gems. Fake reviews, even if they are mockery, are bad.

 

[Randy Whorewald]

11. Hamster is allowed to stay on the board as long as he wants

That does it, I want to change my handle to Hamster.

Additionally, I agree with OTB, why not make the No Review List public so the readers can make up their own mind about seeing a specific / NR listed SP.

 

[FuZzYknUckLeS]

1. SPs cannot post in Review Section of Board or comment on a review anywhere else

Is this someone's way of trying to even the score for reviewers not being allowed to post in the advertising section? Everyone wants the no-review list to be turfed, and now, if this rule takes effect, they can't post anything in their defense if they get slammed by some guy in the review section? Can't have it both ways.

2. Discussion on reviews is limited to questions and answers not bashing the reviewer ("don't like the review", write your own would be the motto)

Good luck with this one. Zippy posts a review on SP. It's totally negative. Meanwhile, six guys that have seen SP and had positive sessions decide to disagree with Zippy, and because of their deep love, er.. obsession with the SP in question, can't help but slam Zippy in her defense, especially seeing as she can't defend herself. (see item #1 above).

3. No such thing as "No Review Lists" - you are out there, you may and likely will get reviewed...deal with it

As previously stated, the alleged no-review list, if it does exist, is total bullshit. I assume its linked to advertising revenues? Who knows. That's one for Alex Jones to figure out.

4. No moderation (post removal) for anything other than obvious shills (smart people can figure out fake reviews and don't need "protection" from some big brother moderator)

What about posts that have nothing to do with the topic of the thread? or just plain outright asshole remarks? Or those stupid conversations that some people like to clog pages of threads with? Etc. etc. etc.

5. No ability to edit posts after 2 hours - if you post it, you better mean it

What is to gain by this? Is the intention to reduce posts?

6. No ability to have one's posts deleted upon "retirement" from a board or otherwise

Why not? Is the intention to keep post counts up?

7. Any form of obvious harassment of SP or pooner will not be tolerated

Don't think this needs to be a posted rule. It's already an obvious one.

8. Can only use private message functions after posting five or more reviews

This rule would simply end up with more 'personal' threads posted in the lounge.

9. No wagging tongue avatars

And no sig pics that take up half a fuckin' page. It seems that the peeps that have the half-pagers also seem to like to post multiple replies in the same thread, making it a scrollbar-fest.
better yet, bring back the avatar and eliminate the sig pic, like every other forum on the 'net!

10. No reviews of SOs that happen to be SPs

*blank stare*

11. Hamster is allowed to stay on the board as long as he wants

Hamster is also allowed to be banned as long as a mod wants. Whoever the hell he is.

12. Linking to, or making note of, information on another review board is entirely fine and encouraged (not otherwise)

I agree, but this seems to be one of those discretionary items, as it can lead to spam.

13. Any and all forms of lapdog behaviour will not be tolerated

There goes the 'hood.

14. Any review that starts "Long time lurker and please don't crap on this newbie but I just fucked the most incredible creature on the planet....." and then gives 9's across the board and that "newbie" has not only all the lingo down but sounds like a P*mp extrodanaire will not only not be tolerated, the review will be removed and replaced with a glowing review of Ssssh***a using the reviewer's handle"

A review is a review. With the few that the board actually gets these days, beggars can't be choosers.

Here's one you can add:
15. No one-liner back-and-forth totally-off-topic conversations between 2 members that fill 2 pages of a thread.

 

[sdw]

1. SPs cannot post in Review Section of Board or comment on a review anywhere else

Since the primary purpose of this board is to allow SPs to advertise, it makes no sense to not allow them to defend themselves or correct a review.

People that just want to be nasty already have a couple of places to post their stuff.

2. Discussion on reviews is limited to questions and answers not bashing the reviewer ("don't like the review", write your own would be the motto)

There should be a change in the review format so that people don't feel the necessity to write a "Penthouse Letter" This would increase the number of reviews and eliminate the PM me info requests.

3. No such thing as "No Review Lists" - you are out there, you may and likely will get reviewed...deal with it

I think that if the way the reviews are done is changed, the need for a no review list dissappears.

4. No moderation (post removal) for anything other than obvious shills (smart people can figure out fake reviews and don't need "protection" from some big brother moderator)

Un moderated forums don't last long. Since this is the way Fred makes his living, he needs to have the forum moderated. If people want to be nasty there are a couple of other places to post. (more added everyday, more dissappear everyday)

5. No ability to edit posts after 2 hours - if you post it, you better mean it

People need the ability to have rational thought.

6. No ability to have one's posts deleted upon "retirement" from a board or otherwise

It would be nice to have some threads stay around despite who started them.

7. Any form of obvious harassment of SP or pooner will not be tolerated

That should be obvious

8. Can only use private message functions after posting five or more reviews

Have to disagree, PM function can be turned off. If a person doesn't want to get PMs, just turn it off.

9. No wagging tongue avatars

Have to disagree, Avatars can be turned off, the signatures in the posts are more of a pain.

10. No reviews of SOs that happen to be SPs

Should be obvious.

11. Hamster is allowed to stay on the board as long as he wants

There should be a limit on how often a person can post in Forums or Reviews each day. The only exception should be Chat. If people want to use up all three or four of their posts posting a link to a bad joke, so be it.

12. Linking to, or making note of, information on another review board is entirely fine and encouraged (not otherwise)

Really have to disagree, this board doesn't try to download a package onto the user, others do. One reason I cheered a banning was because I knew that my AV was going to be much happier.

 

[afterplay]

There should be a change in the review format so that people don't feel the necessity to write a "Penthouse Letter" This would increase the number of reviews and eliminate the PM me info requests.

I don't think there needs to be a mandate for a particular review format, but posting a review of some lady without a way for me to get in contact is a waste of time. If you want to give me 6 bullet points, great... make sure phone number or website is one of them. What do you propose we do about posters do write time-wasting reviews?

Since Moderator said he reposted this from another board, I don't feel bad about saying that TRB has a rather nice format for those who want to stick to just the facts... It's got blanks for the most of the objective details; combined with a few comments to gauge the mood of the session and you've got a recipe for a perfect review. Or at least one that doesn't suck. Out of respect for your antivirus, I won't link it...

I think that if the way the reviews are done is changed, the need for a no review list dissappears.

How? I think that it's already unnecessary, and perhaps even harmful for someone to have an ad up and then ask for no reviews. Right or wrong my first thought at that combination is ripoff.

It would be nice to have some threads stay around despite who started them.

It would be nice to have some kind rating system where things could be committed to the collective consciousness of the community.

There should be a limit on how often a person can post in Forums or Reviews each day. The only exception should be Chat. If people want to use up all three or four of their posts posting a link to a bad joke, so be it.

Maybe in the review areas. Some days there's good stuff in the lounge (like this thread) where you might want to chime in more than that...

 

[wolverine]

1. SPs cannot post in Review Section of Board or comment on a review anywhere else
Wrong. An SP should be free to comment on her reviews without resorting to personal attacks. But just because she's a paid advertiser doesn't give her the power of a moderator: she should not have any say on reviews deleted or posters banned.

2. Discussion on reviews is limited to questions and answers not bashing the reviewer ("don't like the review", write your own would be the motto)
Disagreement and debate over reviews is perfectly fine...but again, as long as there are no personal attacks.

3. No such thing as "No Review Lists" - you are out there, you may and likely will get reviewed...deal with it
Exactamundo.

4. No moderation (post removal) for anything other than obvious shills (smart people can figure out fake reviews and don't need "protection" from some big brother moderator)
Sure.

5. No ability to edit posts after 2 hours - if you post it, you better mean it
I like the 24 hr limit. I self-edit quite a bit, to either correct spelling and grammar or to expand upon a point in my post, or a "cooler head prevails" fix.

6. No ability to have one's posts deleted upon "retirement" from a board or otherwise
That's kinda iffy. If you want to delete your account because someone is here to dig up personal or incriminating posts then it may be a good idea to allow for deletion of all posts. However it is kinda annoying to read an old thread and people are replying to a deleted post. So maybe this should be done on a case-by-case basis, depending on the circumstances.

7. Any form of obvious harassment of SP or pooner will not be tolerated
Given.

8. Can only use private message functions after posting five or more reviews
YES! I get too many PMs from guys asking questions about certain SPs but have a zero post count, and zero contributions to the board.

9. No wagging tongue avatars


10. No reviews of SOs that happen to be SPs
If he's willing to pimp his wife and is quite OK with the notion of several guys a day squirting their Plaster of Paris into her vag crack, who are we to judge?

11. Hamster is allowed to stay on the board as long as he wants
whatever

12. Linking to, or making note of, information on another review board is entirely fine and encouraged (not otherwise)
cool...does that include that vrrb place?

13. Any and all forms of lapdog behaviour will not be tolerated
If this eliminates all of the political BS that has lingered since the Victoria Lee and ~A~ days, then sure. But some people really do need to get a life outside of the pooning world.

14. Any review that starts "Long time lurker and please don't crap on this newbie but I just fucked the most incredible creature on the planet....." and then gives 9's across the board and that "newbie" has not only all the lingo down but sounds like a P*mp extrodanaire will not only not be tolerated, the review will be removed and replaced with a glowing review of Ssssh***a using the reviewer's handle"
uhm...what?


Another addition:
15. Moderators must be impartial and unbiased - any abuse of power, they are removed and banned
I've heard stories about past mods abusing their powers against posters they don't like, or they are lapdogging for favorite SPs. I don't know if any of it is actually true or not, but it's best to avoid that type of behavior.

 

[Walk Softly]

Great topic starter Mod.

1) Disagree
2) Agree
3) Totally agree
4) Wouldn't work!
5) 2 hours is too short IMO
6) Don't care
7) Agree obviosly
8) Not practical
9) Whatever!
10) Let's just stick with "No shilling!"
11) Whatever!
12) Definitely
13) Hard to pin down really
14) Huh?

Cheers! WS.

 

[luv-em-n-lv-em]

Since the primary purpose of this board is to allow SPs to advertise, it makes no sense to not allow them to defend themselves or correct a review.

I'm not sure that the primary purpose of the board is advertising! Wouldn't the name be peab.ca then? I understand that the board wouldn't exist without a way of generating $$$, but that's not why most of us come here is it?

I agree that SPs should be able to participate in the review section, but I think this should be true whether they are an advertiser or not.

 

[Avery]

I am going to be careful when I post my first review!

Make sure it's detailed and credible! The first time reviews that are problematic are the ones that are full of praise (or disdain), but without any real description of what actually happened.

Don't take this as a personal attack, but you've only been a member for a few weeks and have all of 5 posts to your credit. You should have been more careful about posting your opinions in this thread. Your lack of knowledge about no review policies and private messages suggest that you should spend more time reading threads to familiarize yourself with this board and how it works. You might also come to realize that this board would be a disaster without moderation. There's lots of bashing and flame wars as it is.

 

[shapeshifter]

There are other places to review escorts. Gentlemen's Den comes to mind.

www.

DUMBASSES!

wow, way to get yourself banned on your very first post LOL!

I checked that place out, a few disgruntled jerks who were banned from here sitting around trying to top each other by insulting the ladies
Thanks but I will pass

 

[kehoe]

There are other places to review escorts. Gentlemen's Den comes to mind.

www.******

DUMBASSES!

looks like a Hamster post. ...sniff sniff... smells like a Hamster post...it is!!! It is a Hamster post! Welcome back Hammy!!!

 

[HeMadeMeDoIt]

I agree with all points; specially the no review list bullshit, the ladies' response to reviews and staying on topic with a review.

Getting fucked for money is just like any other service and should not be treated any differently. Ladies asking their fan clubs to pounce on guys for posting negative reviews has probably cost us a lof of money and grief as a group by discouraging honest yet possibly negative reviews.

The fact the a girl or a John are retiring "the life" does not mean that the reviews or posts of either should be deleted. I think many posts have become very informative just as many have turned into mindles verbal diarrhea.

 

[sirlickheralot]

1. SPs cannot post in Review Section of Board or comment on a review anywhere else

I'd allow SPs 1 post and only 1 post to respond to each review. If they have anything they need to clarify they should be able to do it with one post, more than that allows them to highjack a review thread or turn it into a flamewar, thereby getting it deleted or locked down.

2. Discussion on reviews is limited to questions and answers not bashing the reviewer ("don't like the review", write your own would be the motto)

Agreed, if someone doesn't like a particular review go start your own thread and post your own review.

3. No such thing as "No Review Lists" - you are out there, you may and likely will get reviewed...deal with it

Agreed

4. No moderation (post removal) for anything other than obvious shills (smart people can figure out fake reviews and don't need "protection" from some big brother moderator)

Disagree - Less moderation is good, but there are too many idiots out there to have no moderation, ie people who post other people personal info, people who make inappropriate posts, ie requests for info on underage SPs, or people who intentionally try to incite flamewars.

5. No ability to edit posts after 2 hours - if you post it, you better mean it

Disagree - 2 hours is too short, 24 is reasonable

6. No ability to have one's posts deleted upon "retirement" from a board or otherwise

Agree - 99% of the time there is no good reason to delete someones posts. Unless you can present a very good case of why your posts should be deleted, they stay.

7. Any form of obvious harassment of SP or pooner will not be tolerated

Agreed

8. Can only use private message functions after posting five or more reviews

Disagree

9. No wagging tongue avatars

LOL - Have to agree with the people who complained about the 1/2 page signatures though.

10. No reviews of SOs that happen to be SPs

Agreed

11. Hamster is allowed to stay on the board as long as he wants

Agreed - his reviews were always good for a chuckle

12. Linking to, or making note of, information on another review board is entirely fine and encouraged (not otherwise)

Disagree - Don't see why a board owner should have to advertise for the competition if they don't want to.

13. Any and all forms of lapdog behaviour will not be tolerated

Agreed

14. Any review that starts "Long time lurker and please don't crap on this newbie but I just fucked the most incredible creature on the planet....." and then gives 9's across the board and that "newbie" has not only all the lingo down but sounds like a P*mp extrodanaire will not only not be tolerated, the review will be removed and replaced with a glowing review of Ssssh***a using the reviewer's handle"

LOL, good one