Re-branding>>when you don't have a choice

[Riza]

Before I get asked the question I thought I would put this out there. We see it all the time, a name gets used up, bad reviews, the b&s isn't working anymore and its time for the girl/agency to move on with a new name and number on the same girl. Tomorrow its a new girl in town, new pictures, new girl and its the same old same old.

Well not not always the reason. Often it has nothing to do with bad reviews/service/b&s it has to do with privacy. I am open and proud about what I do. If a friend happens along my ad and recognizes me I tell them the truth, good or bad. I have had it happen a few times during my time as a sp, if you can't accept me for what I am then we don't have to be friends anymore, its your choice. Same goes with family. I am open and honest with my family if they can't accept me for what I am they are still my family and if they don't want to have any relations with me so be it but I will always be there for them if they ever did. (Luckily this has never happened)

This isn't always the case. Family and friends can make a impact, one that can't be ignored and something has to happen. Time to re-brand. No one legitimate likes it but sometimes it is a necessity. Family or friends win over a name and a number and the attempt to keep this part of your life a secret continues. It happens, its sucks but sometimes you just don't have a choice.

Soooo, re-branding, its not always a choice, it is a necessity. The internet is wonder, a tool and a curse all at the same time.

Edit: I am Riza and will always be Riza and will be staying Riza, this has to do with others.

 

[Warl0ck]

Call me naive, but I had to google "LBFM". Thank god for Urban Dictionary.

 

[sybian]

I run two different brands on my stock here.
It allows me to use range that otherwise would not be accessible to me.
One brand is over a hundred years old, and being associated with that mark ,gives me the respect of the foundation Ranchers, that I'm able to live up to the reputation.
The newer brand ,gives me access to the other side of the valley, new pastures, and richer grass that is held back for the " newcomers" trying to get a foothold in the industry, that is locked into the past....it is that second brand that is always questioned, by the foundation of Cattlemen.
I then have stock that wears both marks......Those chosen few are my foundation herd, and everyone knows that those animals, wearing both brands are the ones I would protect at all costs.
They carry the genetics that started this place.....They are quite literally Re-Branded, and represent the very hard and careful beginning ,and the very far bright future.
My point is....in my black and white Cowboy way.....Is ,as you said, you will always be Riza, and that brand you will always wear, with your head held high, no matter what ground you walk on either side of the valley.
Old brands are large and have grown with the expanding hide, and have living history...new ones are fresh and clear, but are the mark that is questioned the most ,as being authentic .

 

[sdw]

Call me naive, but I had to google "LBFM". Thank god for Urban Dictionary.

You obviously never went through Angeles or Subic Bay. Military use LBFM in South Korea also.

 

[johnA27]

But how does rebranding help when you're being honest with pictures and what not? I mean I guess you'd have to use a whole new set of pics, new hair style, clothing, etc. Remember something minor like a decor in your room can have someone recognize who you are. And I mean pooners love to announce that they've matched the new brand with the old one...

 

[felixthecat]

But how does rebranding help when you're being honest with pictures and what not? I mean I guess you'd have to use a whole new set of pics, new hair style, clothing, etc. Remember something minor like a decor in your room can have someone recognize who you are. And I mean pooners love to announce that they've matched the new brand with the old one...

You'd be surprised. There are many examples when rebrandings went completely quiet. Many members understand a legitimate girl usually does it for a good reason. (And yes, new pictures, new website...)
I recognized a name change more than once myself, would mention to the friends, but not publicly.
A repeat customer could say in a review "she's been around" or "seen her several times", not mentioning the name change.

The only downside, customers shouldn't feel being fooled into a repeat. They have a legitimate reason to walk in that situation, I think, if they were not warned.

There were cases when name change was done for marketing purpose on a on, or even same girl posting under several names, that should be ok to share. There are borderline cases, like that high-end SP who disappeared for 3 years, and then posted under a new name but the same age as 3 years ago. Not as innocent, but still nobody reported.

And then there are WOMs / fakes / ripoffs, a completely different situation. People would watch for and report those name changes right away.

 

[Riza]

But how does rebranding help when you're being honest with pictures and what not? I mean I guess you'd have to use a whole new set of pics, new hair style, clothing, etc. Remember something minor like a decor in your room can have someone recognize who you are. And I mean pooners love to announce that they've matched the new brand with the old one...

Yes new pics, new number and new hair/clothing would have to happen. There is always a chance of being located again but most times they are found when using a number that is also used for personal calls, google leads you right to the ad if you search it. With the name and number change someone would have to go through each ad and picture to try to match them up and often people take the easy route of a quick google search.

The only downside, customers shouldn't feel being fooled into a repeat. They have a legitimate reason to walk in that situation, I think, if they were not warned.

Also if it happened with us and you call and are a returning client you would be immediately told about the re-brand, we are not out to trick anyone into a unwanted return visit.

 

[Riza]

You obviously never went through Angeles or Subic Bay. Military use LBFM in South Korea also.

Arguably the term started end of WW2 when the Americans occupied Philippines. There are other accounts of the term but seems like that where it started and spread from there but we Filipina claim first use of the term :clap2::nod:

 

[lenny]

LBFM seldom seen on PERB & sister sites. More often found on ISG, but still rarely.

Quite a few porn sites turn up searching it.

Those of PI origins often get hired at SDM in DT Vancouver. Friendly with excellent English skills.

 

[Ratbert_2008]

Those of PI origins often get hired at SDM in DT Vancouver. Friendly with excellent English skills.

Shoppers Drug Mart? Or is there an MP/agency that I've never heard of with those initials?

 

[escapefromstress]

Before I get asked the question I thought I would put this out there. We see it all the time, a name gets used up, bad reviews, the b&s isn't working anymore and its time for the girl/agency to move on with a new name and number on the same girl. Tomorrow its a new girl in town, new pictures, new girl and its the same old same old.

Well not not always the reason. Often it has nothing to do with bad reviews/service/b&s it has to do with privacy. I am open and proud about what I do. If a friend happens along my ad and recognizes me I tell them the truth, good or bad. I have had it happen a few times during my time as a sp, if you can't accept me for what I am then we don't have to be friends anymore, its your choice. Same goes with family. I am open and honest with my family if they can't accept me for what I am they are still my family and if they don't want to have any relations with me so be it but I will always be there for them if they ever did. (Luckily this has never happened)

This isn't always the case. Family and friends can make a impact, one that can't be ignored and something has to happen. Time to re-brand. No one legitimate likes it but sometimes it is a necessity. Family or friends win over a name and a number and the attempt to keep this part of your life a secret continues. It happens, its sucks but sometimes you just don't have a choice.

Soooo, re-branding, its not always a choice, it is a necessity. The internet is wonder, a tool and a curse all at the same time.

Edit: I am Riza and will always be Riza and will be staying Riza, this has to do with others.

Good post Riza.

For most of the time I advertised on review boards as Ms. Sarah, I also advertised my escapefromstress legit business on various classified ad sites including the local papers. No one ever figured out I was the same person until they'd been to see one of 'me' and even then, only a few ever suspected when they saw my other ad.

I never posted pics of myself as escape and never posted face pics of Sarah, never posted the same pics of my massage room on both websites, and used different terminology to describe my skill sets and services.

When my Ms. Sarah reputation was trashed and I no longer wanted to advertise using that online persona, I went public on the boards with my escape business instead, and it all worked out in the long run. Rather than try to hide who I had been before, I posted in my ads that I used to work as an escort and had segueyed into massage only.

 

[lenny]

Shoppers Drug Mart? Or is there an MP/agency that I've never heard of with those initials?

We have a winner. Door # 1.

 

[Riza]

Those of PI origins often get hired at SDM in DT Vancouver. Friendly with excellent English skills.

Interesting, maybe I will have to start shopping downtown shoppers for all my supplies, maybe I can make some new friends :wave::yo:

 

[MissingOne]

Those of PI origins often get hired at SDM in DT Vancouver. Friendly with excellent English skills.

All very well, but please don't go into SDM and ask to speak to an LBFM.

 

[lenny]

All very well, but please don't go into SDM and ask to speak to an LBFM.

Would LWFM be ok?