Rating Scale

[Jonesy]

there is no easy translation of another's perception of beauty.

Actually, not true. Many studies done (watch Discovery Channel Sex Files, pretty interesting) show that very consistent ideas of what is beautiful are found regardless of sample base.

In reality, if you are average looking you are a 5. If you are really hot, an 8 and really ugly, a 3. A 1 or 2 are in the holy shit is that for real? category. Same for 9 or 10 but in other direction.

People will argue more about the 9 and 10s than what is a 5. Most people would be happy to be a 6 or even a 7.

For me, if I am looking of a date I will only go for 7 or 8 as while that takes some looking, they are out there for sure. If I am paying, I will go a bit lower but try to stay above 5 but you sometimes make mistakes.

Average = 5. By definition.

 

[Creole Lady Marmalade]

One can't possibly place Katie Holmes in the same category as Angelina Jolie.
Two different types of beauty.

Katie=girl next door
Angelina Jolie=dangerous sultry

me=girl next door
VV=sultry

See two totally different scales and beauty

 

[maverick73]

>>Actually, not true. Many studies done (watch Discovery Channel Sex Files, pretty interesting) show that very consistent ideas of what is beautiful are found regardless of sample base.

Yup I totally agree. There are certain BASIC standards, and THEN, the beauty in the eye of the beholder comes into play for one of my intangibles which can change a rating by 0.5. I'm also a SITUATIONAL and AT THE MOMENT rater, meaning, a person can look very different yesterday than today... and depending on the situation or occasion, will rate differently.

>>In reality, if you are average looking you are a 5. If you are really hot, an 8 and really ugly, a 3. A 1 or 2 are in the holy shit is that for real? category. Same for 9 or 10 but in other direction.
People will argue more about the 9 and 10s than what is a 5. Most people would be happy to be a 6 or even a 7.
Average = 5. By definition.[/QUOTE]

Well I agree in GENERAL but I tend to use the 80/20 rule (famous rule in life that applies to almost everything). That is why I base my reference point at 8.0. Furthermore, because 1 is the lowest (at least on my scale), technically 5.5 is the middle. By most education standards, I believe a C is average and it starts at around 60% whether it's highschool or university (I'm no longer in highschool so somebody correct me if I'm wrong - maybe shyguy1980 can help me here). So I tend to use 6.0 as my average rating, not 5.0. 50% is usually considered a bare pass (a D) which is considered BELOW average.

More to come in my own thread in the next few days. It's time I put all this into writing.

 

[American Male]

Age isn't the issue

The idea of a sliding scale to accomodate age doesn't work for me. Why should I put Katie Holmes and Christy Brinkley on different scales. Hot is hot, regardless.

I think the point of the L/A/S scale comes into effect when other pooners respond to reviews. If the pooner who starts the thread rates a particular SP an 8, while 3 out of 4 responses think she is really a 6, then we have some info to work with. The original post of an 8 really doesn't tell us much, you are right.

Also, more info comes after a few weeks of lurking and getting a feel for how guys rate SPs. You get to know that some guys never give above 8's and some guys never give below a 6.

Part of the fun of PERB for me is comparing my opinion of a SP I have seen with the opinion of others who have seen the same girl. Its like being a Red Sox fan vs a Yankee fan. Actually, since this is Canada, I should probably make that an Oilers vs a Canucks fan. Being a fan of a team is sometimes irrational. Often, we are a fan of the ugly team. The same may be true of pooning. Not that any of the girls are ugly, but sometimes we get attracted to things that others would not. It often makes no sense at all.

Would every member of PERB rate the SPs I have seen in the same way I do? Undoubtedly not, but that's part the fun of being a fan.

 

[American Male]

i think Katie Holmes is more like a 6. Angelina Jolie would be a 9.5 in my eyes. Just goes to show how subjective looks are....once again beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

I agree, Alexis. Katie Holmes is cute girl, but cute only gets you so far. 6 or 7 is about right. But Angelina, oh my fucking god, that is a beautiful woman. A beautiful woman will always rate higher than a cute girl in my book. Everytime.

 

[rollerboy]

I *wish* Perberts were so discriminating with their ratings.

If every girl who reviewers said was a 9 or 10, looked as good as Katie Holmes, I'd be one happy man.

Do I think that Katie Holmes is a 10? No. But I think she's clearly within the top ten percentile of women in terms of looks. Out of a high school with 500 girls, there is no way she wouldn't have been one of the top 50 prettiest girls.

No, not striking like Angelina Jolie, but prettier than the average 9 on this board. 6 my ass, no disrespect.

 

[Jonesy]

I *wish* Perberts were so discriminating with their ratings.

If every girl who reviewers said was a 9 or 10, looked as good as Katie Holmes, I'd be one happy man.

Do I think that Katie Holmes is a 10? No. But I think she's clearly within the top ten percentile of women in terms of looks. Out of a high school with 500 girls, there is no way she wouldn't have been one of the top 50 prettiest girls.

No, not striking like Angelina Jolie, but prettier than the average 9 on this board. 6 my ass, no disrespect.

The average 9 on this board, seeing how some people rate, is about a 4.5 to 5.5, at best. I was amazed when I found this board that very average looking at best SPs were being called 8s and 9s. Some guys must be so grateful that a female actually touches them that their eye to brain function short circuits.

 

[El Tigre]

Hey Jonesy......

The average 9 on this board, seeing how some people rate, is about a 4.5 to 5.5, at best. I was amazed when I found this board that very average looking at best SPs were being called 8s and 9s. Some guys must be so grateful that a female actually touches them that their eye to brain function short circuits.

I couldn't agree more...and I've wondered how to say it....well put.....some of the ladies that get raved about on this board couldn't get me up even with a bag over their heads......

Oh oh...I feel a flame war 'a comin'........

 

[LonelyGhost]

Here's my simple 'rating' system:

10 -- free sex, all inclusive, no holds barred, neck twisting, back breaking, sweaty, meaty, screaming days long sex.

9 -- had to buy her a coffee for #10 above.

8 -- had to take her to a movie (my choice).

7 -- had to take her to a movie (her choice).

6 -- had to buy her dinner and a movie (my choice).

5 -- had to buy her dinner and a movie (her choice).

4 -- had to meet her friends.

3 -- had to meet her parents.

2 -- had to meet her ex's.

1 -- had to pay for the sex.

 

[Wiggly]

It looks like a consensus is forming, most of the SP's are 5-8s, not 9's and 10's. Service and attitude can be 10's , and that is more important than looks.

Back to the Katie issue, she has been on the cover of countless magazines, movies, TV etc. She is prettier than most, maybe not a 10, but probably in the 10% of all women. What is there, 3 billion women in the world, that would make 299,999,999 women in the world prettier. Who has gone outside today? If you walked down the street and saw 10 women, 4,3,2, were prettier? Come on. Which Vancouver SP's rate higher?

Can we start the rating at 5 and go up or down from there?

This may offend the SP's since no woman wants to be called just average, but for the perberts is would be fair. Lets rate S/A.

 

[massageseeker]

Try posting your pick under Hotornot.com

I did... got a 9.6 happy ... lol ..

 

[IceG]

i agree that for looks/facial attractiveness, it is not useful for a reviewer to use numbers. i only use the numbers to estimate the "objective" data such as height, approx. wt., approx. body dimensions, and then i just put in my subjective assessment on looks. this way a reader can get a feel for the kind of "cuteness" in my mind and if he disagrees with my assessment, then he can take my next review and adjust "my assessment" up or down according to his opinion.

you can look at the science and say that facial symmetry, hip/waist ratio, and body symmetry are all subconsciously guiding each of us in our assessment of how attractive others are physically.

the point is that there is still a fair amount of variance.

again, sps should try to take one "reviewer"s opinion as just an opinion. and i do agree that the sps on this board are being held to a higher standard on looks (ladies, you already know this is essentially a looks oriented profession before you enter it). I mean seriously guys if you take alook at "civilian" women and then at sps, the "average sp" is in better physical shape and usually cuter. whereas when you get into the "hottie" range (let's arbitrarily call that 8+) then you find that hotties are generally hotties (civilian and sps) there is not much difference in physical appearance and it is a matter of personal preference in each guy.

for example, Charlize Theron, Angelina Jolie, Jessica Alba: we may disagree who is a 8,9, or 10, but no one is going to say they are not at least an 8.

there are many Edmonton sps in mps who are at least an 8 in "everyman's book". we get into these disagreements on looks in the 4-7.5 range because that is where the "bulk" of women (especially civilians) are located.

 

[rollerboy]

its degrading plain and simple...

So it is. And I'm awfully sorry.

But I have a good excuse. Men are pigs!

I don't normally put numbers on girls, I think I've done it once here just to compare notes. But damn if it isn't convenient to scan a review and go straight for the numbers.

Besides, aren't there more degrading aspects to this profession than being sized up by a bunch of horney overgrown boys?

 

[rollerboy]

*gulp* I like your pics, o lady of the legs.

Yes, it is unfortunate that guys have a large statistical variance in their ho-eometric measurements. That's what spreadsheets are for! With enough inputs, the uncertainty in the mean drops 1/sqrt(N). Plus, I have a general idea of which pooners need vision correction.

Besides, if some bloke thinks Arianna Huffington is a goddess, his narrative is going to be as skewed as his numerical scores.

As for skanks, not my cup of tea, but whores and hookers I love so dearly.

 

[Jonesy]

its degrading plain and simple...

business or no business US ladies see this "ummm rating system"...and personally i couldnt think of anything more degrading(as ive said already) see with age comes repeating ourselves

annalee

You are selling your body to men who buy it because it looks a certain way to fulfill some sort of need. If you find that degrading, then you find what you do degrading.

To think for one second that men don't choose SPs in whole or in part based upon looks is laughable.

No disrepect to you but perhaps you need to look inward at what you find degrading. If it truly is that men will compare your looks to other women they can have sex with, including SPs, then you are certainly in the wrong line of work if it truly is a choice for you.

 

[Massagegirl]

its degrading plain and simple...

business or no business US ladies see this "ummm rating system"...and personally i couldnt think of anything more degrading(as ive said already) see with age comes repeating ourselves

annalee

For those that can't read, she isn't saying whoring is degrading, she is saying being rated like a piece of meat is degrading.

Since the whole rating thing is so poorly understood, I vote the whole thing be scrapped! For the record, average being a 5 is total bullshit IMO.

 

[Jonesy]

For those that can't read, she isn't saying whoring is degrading, she is saying being rated like a piece of meat is degrading.

Since the whole rating thing is so poorly understood, I vote the whole thing be scrapped! For the record, average being a 5 is total bullshit IMO.

On a scale of 1 to 10, 5 is average. If you think it is bullshit, take it up with linear algebra.

As far as your vote, as you are not a man who is trying to sort out what SPs to see, and comparison is important in that quest, your vote is duly noted but placed in the "uh, sure, we'll get right on that" box.

If you are selling your body, expect it to get rated. If you don't like people rating what you are selling, well, welcome to reality.

 

[El Tigre]

Reality check ladies......

As Jonesy says......you are putting yourself up for sale..and for serious money.
Buyers are entitled to compare and rate the product...no different than cars.....
Some are more picky than others...to each his own...but as buyers that's their right. If you don't like being looked at as a piece of meat, then take yourself off the display shelf and do something else.....but if you plan on remaining for sale, get used to being looked at as objects......that's just the way it is.......

 

[Massagegirl]

First off I am not selling my body so I am neutral in this matter. I usually don't get involved in debates unless I am neutral and unbiased.

Secondly I understand that you want to fuck women that you couldn't get in real life, no problem with that. If I was paying a guy for sex your darn right he would have to be hot and I wouldn't be impressed if he showed up and was a 6 or 7 (my opinion of average) when he or others claimed a 9 or 10. However I also wouldn't be naive enough to expect my opinion to concur with everyone elses, beauty in the eye of the beholder and all that.

Thirdly I have a problem with 5 being average because my whole life I dated men I would rate at least a 7. Now you expect me to believe that I have always been wrong in my supposition and they are actually 5's? Sorry but 5's are not cute, charming with few or no flaws IMO.

The whole rating thing flies out the window if everyone uses different standards, is that understood? It seems simple to me, but apparently not to some of you.

I do agree that there are very very few 9's and 10's out there, so 8 is pretty good looking and 7 is do-able in my book. A 5 I might kick out of bed for eating crackers though...a 5 is below average on my scale.

Here's a link to a site when you can rate women or men and I think it's a little more accurate in that hundreds or even thousands of people have rated them so the numbers are more accurate.Rate pics of women.

 

[Jonesy]

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Secondly I understand that you want to fuck women that you couldn't get in real life

Incorrect assumption and that is where your diatribe probably starts to fall apart. In fact, many of the SPs would be damn lucky to get anywhere near the quality of some of the men that they see in terms of appearance. That is, my mathematically challenged friend, a fact.

Many and perhaps most like variety without all the GF baggage once in a while. I ONLY date above 6 myself. I have never dated a 9 or 10 but several 8s including one that rivals most anything you can find in a mag (and she didn't have any plastic in her).

If you like only 7 and above guys, your choice and you apparently have an ability to find guys like that. You must also be about a 7 then else, good luck as there are far more good looking women than men in many parts of the world and this is one of them in my opinion.

Not even sure why you are interested in this anyway as you say you are not selling sex and you are not a man. ???

Back to basics, if a scale goes from something to something else, the mid-point on that scale is called AVERAGE. If your AVERAGE is 7, then your scale goes to 14. A curious choice though some silly brits decided to use feet/inches at one time too so you have some good company for your curious nature. Either that or linear algebra has escaped you these many years.