If you read the post more carefully, you fucking moron, you'd see she only told the rapist that to convince him to use a condom. She did not say she actually has an STD.
Raped and Robbed - Part #2
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Geez Buddy, READ before you post. She said dhe TOLD him she had an std to convince him to use protection.
QUOTE=Naughty Nadia;700318]Rape #2
and I managed to convince him to use protection, that I had recently contracted syphilis and treatment wasn't finished yet. [/QUOTE]
I suppose she could have spelled it out by saying, "I lied to him and told him I had an std because I was appealling to his sense of selfishness and thought that he wulld only use protection for his own good as he obviously did not care about my safety." I think most of us picked up on that with her having to 'tone' it down.
Notice I am trying to be sensitive to your lack of understanding and compassion with my choice of words (despite this being your second offense on the same topic) but the lady says she was raped and robbed. If you really doubt it, why can't you just shut up until you are proven right or wrong. She has been thru enough and she does not OWE anyone here an explanation. What does it do for you too jump all over her? The only thing I can think of is that if you are right, no one will believe you when you post you knew it all along so by making a lot of noise FIRST, you look like a hero after on the slim chance you are right. Is tormenting a rape victim really worth that much to you for that slim chance to be 'right' ? That is not just directed at you btw but all the others who lack compassion and 'smell a rat'.
If anyone can't or won't help until they have some proof, don't! As Isabelle pointed out, no one is obligaed. I for one would rather believe Nadia and be proven wrong. If I am wrong, it will not be the first time. Why can't we just let her heal and be there to help if we can? Again as Isabelle says, no contest, just do what you can if you want to. If not, go on to a review thread so you can plan your next session.
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Where is the police file? What's her real name and address? I want to see for myself what damage has been done! Why doesn't she post pictures of the bruises, cigarette burns, etc? When's she going to court? If I'm going to send her my $20 I'd better be sure she she's pretty roughed up and not just faking it all for a little attention and quick cash!Why do I get the sickening feeling that this is all bullshit drama????
Nadia posts the same night, so she says as this all happened and
remembers it to the nth degree!! OH yeah, sure!!!
Oh but wait, it ain't over yet!! The lap dogs and paid advertisers
jump all over this like a sunday sermon.
You've all been had and then some.
Yup, just like Strker posted in another thead, where's the
police file and such.
Oooooooooh, but that was deleted.
Drama drama drama..........Nadia you sure you ain't
CLM now??
.................QM'r
You are seriously kidding right? What right does anyone have to possibly identifying information? How would you feel if 50 dudes from a message board showed up in your trial to hear you recount of how you were brutalized repeatedly, just so they could justify maybe sending you a little cash, not much BTW, just enough to make themselves feel good. I know I'd pass. I'd rather wait in line at the food bank.
I'll be visiting with Nadia today, will check out what she says for the sake of the doubters, report back and if that isn't enough, so be it. Help, don't help. Do whatever you conscience tells you to do, but don't make light of someone else's trauma.
QM....Have you ever heard so much as a whiff of drama from Nadia?
Would it be normal to inform the Vancouver Rape Relief and Women's Shelter organization?
http://www.rapereliefshelter.bc.ca/
http://www.rapereliefshelter.bc.ca/
Why do I get the sickening feeling that this is all bullshit drama????
Nadia posts the same night, so she says as this all happened and
remembers it to the nth degree!! OH yeah, sure!!!
Oh but wait, it ain't over yet!! The lap dogs and paid advertisers
jump all over this like a sunday sermon.
You've all been had and then some.
Yup, just like Strker posted in another thead, where's the
police file and such.
Oooooooooh, but that was deleted.
Drama drama drama..........Nadia you sure you ain't
CLM now??
.................QM'r
YOUR POST is what sickens me most! Seriously, believe what you want and you are definitely not obligated to offer your support... but unless you're prepared to give actual proof of what you are saying... seriously, I don't think anyone gives a crap if you feel this is drama! Have some respect, decency and please STFU with what you feel this could or could not be.
InTheBum, that certainly goes for you too! Read properly before shooting your mouth...again, as usual.
Whatever...still amazing all 3 suspects were apprehended so quickly...12 years and we still don't know who killed 2pac...
SA
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i agree...Why do I get the sickening feeling that this is all bullshit drama????
Nadia posts the same night, so she says as this all happened and
remembers it to the nth degree!! OH yeah, sure!!!
Oh but wait, it ain't over yet!! The lap dogs and paid advertisers
jump all over this like a sunday sermon.
You've all been had and then some.
Yup, just like Strker posted in another thead, where's the
police file and such.
Oooooooooh, but that was deleted.
Drama drama drama..........Nadia you sure you ain't
CLM now??
.................QM'r
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This was a very cruel thing to say...Why do I get the sickening feeling that this is all bullshit drama????
Nadia posts the same night, so she says as this all happened and
remembers it to the nth degree!! OH yeah, sure!!!
Oh but wait, it ain't over yet!! The lap dogs and paid advertisers
jump all over this like a sunday sermon.
You've all been had and then some.
Yup, just like Strker posted in another thead, where's the
police file and such.
Oooooooooh, but that was deleted.
Drama drama drama..........Nadia you sure you ain't
CLM now??
.................QM'r
If there is a 1% chance that what she says happened to her is true, your words must hurt her very much.
Why do I get the sickening feeling that this is all bullshit drama????
Nadia posts the same night, so she says as this all happened and
remembers it to the nth degree!! OH yeah, sure!!!
Oh but wait, it ain`t over yet!! The lap dogs and paid advertisers
jump all over this like a sunday sermon.
You`ve all been had and then some.
Yup, just like Strker posted in another thead, where`s the
police file and such.
Oooooooooh, but that was deleted.
Drama drama drama..........Nadia you sure you ain`t
CLM now??
.................QM`r
https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=81081
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Everyone out there has a concience; it's up to them.
I'm donating the cost of an average session, or $$$. It's a session I had planned on booking with someone next week. I'll feel better giving it to Nadia than I would having the session, I think. I'm using that as a bench-mark.
Everyone out there has a concience; it's up to them.
I'm sorry if I'm unable to respond personally to everyone at this point. I am frequently either with Nadia or trying to help with research about what she need to take care of. The immediate issue was getting in touch with people who could provide immediate assistance as fast as possible and help her sort stuff out so she knows what to do next.
Again my apologies to everyone who has yet to receive a reply from either myself or Nadia. We will try to provide as much information as is possible in threads as I simply cannot answer the deluge of emails right now.
Please rest assured... I have spent the day with her and she was viciously, BRUTALLY beaten an attacked and is not well right now. I have seen the card of the officer in charge with the vase file number. I have seen the bruises. I have seen how much pain she's in. I have seen how much medication the doctors have her on. I have heard the full story. I can't even begin to express how truly awful it is.... you cannot even begin to imagine!
I'm utterly exhausted and frankly feel sick to my stomach right now because of the way she's being treated here and elsewhere. I'm going to go take some time, smoke a joint, unwind and get some sleep because if I don't I won't be able to explain everything (it will take HOURS) to write out in a simplified way so that some of the functionally illiterate rumor monger troglodytes can have their pound of flesh. You will here more from me tomorrow.
Where is the police file? What's her real name and address? I want to see for myself what damage has been done! Why doesn't she post pictures of the bruises, cigarette burns, etc? When's she going to court? If I'm going to send her my $20 I'd better be sure she she's pretty roughed up and not just faking it all for a little attention and quick cash!
Drama, drama and more drama.
Where do you get off saying that I asked for all the proof you quote
above.
Looks like I made a mistake in adding to the drama.
This is the internet for god's sake and I take everything I read with
a grain of salt. PERIOD!
So go ahead add more if you wish.
Btw, it looks like there are a few that missed my
at the end ofmy first post. Just thought I'd throw in a little shit disturbing with
that original post. Nothing more.
Just trying to enjoy myself dear.
............QM'r
Your kidding me right?
............At the expense of her brutal rape? Are you sick man? Are you aware that people actually are thrown in loony bins for sadistic shit like that? You clearly need help buddy. Well said. I've noticed the usual suspects: goodlube, ITB (and several other assholes on the "other" board. I feel very good that I never bothered to become a member over on that supercilious cesspool of a board) when it comes to making cruel misogynistic comments, but QM'r was a shock.Your kidding me right?
As for those of you who called "bullshit, and I hope isn't true" (or similar words to that effect). Don't you wish you had a better sense of the reality of what a vile world we live in, before shooting your mouths off?
I too Nadia was sick to my stomache hearing your story, and makes me feel blessed to be out of the biz now. I'm so sorry you had to go through anything like what you described. When you're involved in a crime, the police give you the number for victim's services. Have you tried phoning them for any helpful advice? I know it was helpful for me after an assault of a different kind, if not for anything but to find support, counsellors etc. Might help with the emotional recovery but not financial. Hope this is somewhat helpful for you. All the best in a speedy recovery.
With an OPEN MIND!!!
http://womensissues.about.com/od/rapesexualassault/a/Wuornos.htm?p=1
Prostitution: A Victimless Crime?
From Charles Montaldo,
Your Guide to Crime / Punishment.
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The Oldest Profession Is Hardly Without Victims
Prostitution is listed among the crimes some refer to as victimless or consensual crimes, because no one present at the crime is unwilling, but research shows that may not be the true picture of prostitution.
In most countries, prostitution -- exchanging money for sex among adults -- is legal. It is illegal in only a few countries -- in the United States (except for ten counties in the state of Nevada), India, Argentina, some Muslim and Communist countries. The reason it is legal is the general attitude that prostitution does no harm, has no victims, and is sex among consenting adults.
Melissa Farley, PhD of Prostitution Research & Education, argues that prostitution is hardly a victimless crime. In her "Prostitution: Fact sheet on Human Rights Violations" Farley says that prostitution is sexual harassment, rape, battering, verbal abuse, domestic violence, a racist practice, a violation of human rights, childhood sexual abuse, a consequence of male domination of women and a means of maintaining male domination of women.
"All prostitution causes harm to women," Farley writes. "Whether it is being sold by one's family to a brothel, or whether it is being sexually abused in one's family, running away from home, and then being pimped by one's boyfriend, or whether one is in college and needs to pay for next semester's tuition and one works at a strip club behind glass where men never actually touch you – all these forms of prostitution hurt the women in it."
To believe prostitution has no victims, one must ignore these statistics published in Farley's Fact Sheet:
78 percent of 55 women who sought help from the Council for Prostitution Alternatives in 1991 reported being raped an average of 16 times a year by pimps, and were raped 33 times a year by johns.
62 percent reported having been raped in prostitution.
73 percent reported having experienced physical assault in prostitution.
72 percent were currently or formerly homeless.
92 percent stated that they wanted to escape prostitution immediately.
83 percent of prostitutes are victims of assault with a weapon.
75 percent of women in escort prostitution had attempted suicide.
67 percent meet diagnostic criteria for posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD).
In short, the victims of prostitution are mostly the prostitutes themselves. It just may be that they no longer have the ability left to "consent" to be a willing participant in their so-called victimless crime.
Estimates of the prevalence of incest among prostitutes range from 65 percent to 90 percent. The Council for Prostitution Alternatives, Portland, Oregon Annual Report in 1991 found that: 85 percent of their prostitute clients reported history of sexual abuse in childhood while 70 percent reported incest.
As feminist Andrea Dworkin has written: "Incest is boot camp. Incest is where you send the girl to learn how to do it. So you don't, obviously, have to send her anywhere, she's already there and she's has nowhere else to go. She's trained."
But not all feminist back prostitution laws. Some believe prostitution is an act of self-determination. They demand decriminalization and destigmatization, because laws against prostitution discriminate against women's ability to make their own choices.
http://womensissues.about.com/od/rapesexualassault/a/Wuornos.htm?p=1
Prostitution: A Victimless Crime?
From Charles Montaldo,
Your Guide to Crime / Punishment.
FREE Newsletter. Sign Up Now!
The Oldest Profession Is Hardly Without Victims
Prostitution is listed among the crimes some refer to as victimless or consensual crimes, because no one present at the crime is unwilling, but research shows that may not be the true picture of prostitution.
In most countries, prostitution -- exchanging money for sex among adults -- is legal. It is illegal in only a few countries -- in the United States (except for ten counties in the state of Nevada), India, Argentina, some Muslim and Communist countries. The reason it is legal is the general attitude that prostitution does no harm, has no victims, and is sex among consenting adults.
Melissa Farley, PhD of Prostitution Research & Education, argues that prostitution is hardly a victimless crime. In her "Prostitution: Fact sheet on Human Rights Violations" Farley says that prostitution is sexual harassment, rape, battering, verbal abuse, domestic violence, a racist practice, a violation of human rights, childhood sexual abuse, a consequence of male domination of women and a means of maintaining male domination of women.
"All prostitution causes harm to women," Farley writes. "Whether it is being sold by one's family to a brothel, or whether it is being sexually abused in one's family, running away from home, and then being pimped by one's boyfriend, or whether one is in college and needs to pay for next semester's tuition and one works at a strip club behind glass where men never actually touch you – all these forms of prostitution hurt the women in it."
To believe prostitution has no victims, one must ignore these statistics published in Farley's Fact Sheet:
78 percent of 55 women who sought help from the Council for Prostitution Alternatives in 1991 reported being raped an average of 16 times a year by pimps, and were raped 33 times a year by johns.
62 percent reported having been raped in prostitution.
73 percent reported having experienced physical assault in prostitution.
72 percent were currently or formerly homeless.
92 percent stated that they wanted to escape prostitution immediately.
83 percent of prostitutes are victims of assault with a weapon.
75 percent of women in escort prostitution had attempted suicide.
67 percent meet diagnostic criteria for posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD).
In short, the victims of prostitution are mostly the prostitutes themselves. It just may be that they no longer have the ability left to "consent" to be a willing participant in their so-called victimless crime.
Estimates of the prevalence of incest among prostitutes range from 65 percent to 90 percent. The Council for Prostitution Alternatives, Portland, Oregon Annual Report in 1991 found that: 85 percent of their prostitute clients reported history of sexual abuse in childhood while 70 percent reported incest.
As feminist Andrea Dworkin has written: "Incest is boot camp. Incest is where you send the girl to learn how to do it. So you don't, obviously, have to send her anywhere, she's already there and she's has nowhere else to go. She's trained."
But not all feminist back prostitution laws. Some believe prostitution is an act of self-determination. They demand decriminalization and destigmatization, because laws against prostitution discriminate against women's ability to make their own choices.
Why do I get the sickening feeling that this is all bullshit drama????
Nadia posts the same night, so she says as this all happened and
remembers it to the nth degree!! OH yeah, sure!!!
.................QM'r
Naughty Nadia;700688 And of course I remember it all clearly. It is burned into my mind and always will be. If you had ever had something that traumatic happen to you said:
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