Asian Fever

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wilde

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I don't think I posted anywhere who it was and I wouldn't publically do that without any proof.
And I didn't say it was inadvertently or I would have just brushed it off as something of an oversight by the person that did.
I was told specifically by the mamasan that the reviewer here gave detailed specifics of my review and that was how she figured out it was me.

If he had just said there were some marginal reviews on her girls, the mamasan would not have known it was me, but with the specifics that I posted, it was pretty easy.

I think we have beaten this topic to death already. I should not have made this public and accepted that these things can happen.

Take care everyone and play safe.
I think you have a right to be pissed for getting hassled, inadvertently or not, for writing an honest review... As you can see on "that thread", he had already identified you so I don't think you need any more proof as to who it was. Anyways, looking forward to your future reviews.
 

pcb

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I don't see what the point is in reporting my reviews to anyone. This may be a hobby, but it's still sort of an underground, backroom type of entertainment.

How would you like it if I informed your colleagues and family of your reviews of these women.......
These reviews are opinion of experiences each one of us pooners have which we volunteerily post to help and inform fellow pooners. Different pooners may have different opinions of the same SP and some may publically defend those SP's, but what purpose is there in outing the reviewer to the SP?

And where in the rant did I out you as a shill. Nowhere did I publically say it was even you.

On a later post, I even appologized for making the implecation since I missinterpretted what the mamasan said.

I guess I'm mistaken in thinking that what's posted here should stay here. I guess this hobby is like ballroom dancing and model building and we should come out in the open with it. Maybe I'm just old school, but why does everyone have handles and not use their real names......
 

Avery

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This is more a rant than a review. I've always thought what is posted in here stays in here.
What is posted here is available to all members of PERB.

pcb said:
This board was set up to help the pooners and not the SP's.
Yes, although SPs can advertise and post, just not in other SPs' review threads.

pcb said:
I post a review on Angie on here after years of not posting my sessions and within a couple days, I get a call and was asked not to post reviews. SHe didn't sound too upset, but it just puts me in an awkward position.
Was it the SP who called, or the mamasan? In any case, they had no right to phone you. They must be keeping records of encounters and client info. That's not good!

pcb said:
So, WTF are we running here. Do I start giving just positive reviews regardless of how I really thought of them. Shoudl I become a "Shill" like some of the others on here.
No, no and no! Keep posting honest reviews.

pcb said:
I always thought we were here for our fellow pooners, but obviously not. I review the SP's as I see them.
That is the main reason why we're here. Keep it up.

pcb said:
After speaking with the mamasan of my last review, I am sure I know who reported it back to her. I think this is total BS and have made me very skeptical of his reviews after finding out more about their relationship.
Why does it matter who told her, or even if it was a fellow PERBite who told her? Whenever you post a review, you should presume that the SP or her boss will become aware of it and figure out who you are.
 

CisForCookie

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Inbetween your Mom's legs...
Maybe I'm just old school, but why does everyone have handles and not use their real names......
Uhhhh

Not everyone doing this is single :)

and this would be grounds for your other half to file for divorce, and divorces are messy and expensive which would cause you to have less $ to poon?

That's why we

have handles,
secondary email addresses,
spare phones,
give the girl when she asks a fake name,
separate bank accounts,
code names on our phones,
poon bags with stockings, music, lube, toys and pig noses(for those who were following the latest drama)
never understood those who did outcalls to their private residence...
 

pcb

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My last post was a form of sarcasm. That's why I said this hobby was a kind of underground, backroom type of entertainment. That's why I use a handle and assume most of the others on here do also. That's why I am implying that reviewers should not be outed to mamasans or any other micro owners.

Basically with the imformation in our threads, some mamasans can figure out who we are even if they don't know our handles. This issue I am speaking of was the other member in here specifically referred the details of my post to the mamasan and basically outed me. He did not just say that a certain girl of hers received a poor review because of specific services or her body type.

I was told that I was the one that usually gave negative comments and contradicted his reviews. She actually implied that I was a partial cause of her downturn in business. Made me feel guilty and responsible to some degree.

This rant seems to have gone off course. I was just shocked that someone here would out a fellow pooner like that.


I guess the lesson here is not to give too many details of our sessions and keep it kind of generic.
 

wilde

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I was told that I was the one that usually gave negative comments and contradicted his reviews.
A lot of people contradict his reviews. He is after all famous for writing Penthouse letters style reviews puming the tires of aunties.
 

pcb

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Dang, this thread has really developed legs of it's own. Over 1300 hits in about a day.

This topic, like many other topics will never get settled. Everyone will have their opinions on it and there are valid points for both sides.

I just believe what is posted in here should stay in here. This is a hobby that shouldn't really see the light of day or it'll cause problems and uncomfortable situations for many of us. There's always the exception for those that just don't give a crap about what others think.

I will probably continue to see Kelly's crue since I still want her to succeed and will repeat with the ones I think are worthwhile, but will just be a little more careful of what I post here.
 

CisForCookie

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Inbetween your Mom's legs...
She actually implied that I was a partial cause of her downturn in business. Made me feel guilty and responsible to some degree.
Tell her to take sessions again? lol... :p

not really interested in her girls, but I'd book with her...

Her crew not taking txt msg bookings didn't help in my case.

1. get better looking girls
2. don't b&s
3. stop waisting our time, post real pics.



I guess the lesson here is not to give too many details of our sessions and keep it kind of generic.
Definitely, I used to do long reviews. Now, I don't even bother starting threads, I just add to a thread or if someone inquires I give a real quickie with very little session details.
 

CisForCookie

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Inbetween your Mom's legs...
A lot of people contradict his reviews. He is after all famous for writing Penthouse letters style reviews puming the tires of aunties.
A lot of this whole hobby is subjective though, I've had great times with providers that have gotten meh reviews, and have had meh times with providers who've gotten great reviews.

The whole auntie term drives me nutty, if it was a caucasian they're labeled milfs which is a compliment?, but when it's a asian they're labeled aunties...sounds bad? :p

Sometimes you want to play with a kitten, sometimes you to play with a cat, and sometimes you want to play with a cougar :) I'm just happy we have a lot to play with :)
 

pcb

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Tip of the day:

If you want to keep something secret, do not post it on the internet.[/QUOTE]

The first real good advise I've seen. I guess I'll go back to the other board.
 

tantalizeme

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Telling Asian SPs about PERB—yes or no?

Hi brother pcb,

It wasn`t my intention to embarrass you in any way. Never occurred to me that Angie had your number.

I never mentioned any details about your review, but simply that a favorable review had encouraged me to see her. On her request I told her about this website. Obviously she has access to the internet, and it`s not beyond the capacity of a smart Hongkong girl to track down a review of herself. https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?169721-Angie-Kelly-s&highlight=Angie

Very occasionally I`ve mentioned PERB to intelligent Asian SPs before, without ever thinking much about the pros and cons. This is the real issue your "rant" raises for me: Should telling Asian SPs about PERB be a taboo for pooners?

The obvious—and only—reason I can see for keeping PERB secret from Asian SPs is that otherwise some reviewers like yourself feel inhibited about writing candid reviews.

That reason is outweighed, in my mind, by 3 considerations.

1. For better or worse, PERB reviews (except those in the massage section) are accessible to the interested public. Many SPs link to their reviews via ads or websites. If you google "Escort Reviews Vancouver" PERB comes up right away. It seems a rather strange idea to selectively hush up PERB`s existence, or to lay down rules about who can inform whom about it.

2. An attitude that says "Let`s keep only those migrant Asian sex workers in the dark about PERB!" strikes me as unfair and borderline racist. I think Asian SPs have every right to know they may be reviewed. Western SPs generally are well aware of PERB and similar sites, and some even advertise here. And micro operators like Maggie or Lily (and her partner) also know about PERB.

3. Some fairly smart Asian SPs might even benefit from reading reviews. Reading their own reviews gives them a chance to shape up in the light of critical feedback.

So on balance I think each pooner should decide for himself whether to tell an Asian SP about PERB. Personally, knowing that an SP reads my review of her wouldn`t prevent me from telling the exact truth about what I experienced.

No one who actually reads my reviews could seriously think I`m interested in anything but speaking my truth. If my reviews sometimes get longish and read like Penthouse letters, well, that`s how I enjoy writing them, and surely no one`s forced to read.

As you know, brother pcb, I feel sincere respect for you. I hope you`ll keep posting your honest, astute perspectives on the SPs you see.
 

pcb

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As you know, brother pcb, I feel sincere respect for you. I hope you'll keep posting your honest, astute perspectives on the SPs you see.

Fat chance that's going to happen. According to Peaveguy, it's better and much safer to lurk.
 

CisForCookie

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Inbetween your Mom's legs...
Uhh I've never had a maggie girl who was able to carry on a 30 second conversation in english.

And yet they can read perb reviews?

Next time I book a session, I think I might just log into my perb account and give instructions through msg posts :p
 

Tugela

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I don't believe in a no report Micro. If they are willing to take my money, what I do on my time afterwards is mu business. If they don't agree with that, don't do my business.
They are also free to refuse to take your money in the future. I guess it all depends on whether you want to go back there or not. If you don't want to return, or to visit anyone connected with them, then just ignore them. If you do want to go back again, then it is generally not a good idea to poison the well.
 

wilde

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I never mentioned any details about your review, but simply that a favorable review had encouraged me to see her. On her request I told her about this website. Obviously she has access to the internet, and it`s not beyond the capacity of a smart Hongkong girl to track down a review of herself. https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?169721-Angie-Kelly-s&highlight=Angie
Nice backtracking there, brother:rolleyes:...

She asked if anyone could look at those reviews. I saw absolutely no reason to lie. She asked whether she could look up her review, so I gave her the necessary info.
 

pcb

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They are also free to refuse to take your money in the future. I guess it all depends on whether you want to go back there or not. If you don't want to return, or to visit anyone connected with them, then just ignore them. If you do want to go back again, then it is generally not a good idea to poison the well.
Holy crap, are you new to this hobby or have just been living under a rock........
Micro's pop up here faster than weeds. As long as I've got money, I have yet to see a Micro refuse my business. Besides, even if they do, there's probably one with spitting distance for me to stroll over to.

I don't want to sound callus or blunt and I don't speak for all men on here, but I pay SP's for their services and for the fact that there are no strings attached afterwards. Even though they record cell numbers, they should be professional and not contact us afterwards.

How would you like it if you were having lunch or dinner with friends or family and an SP comes up to you and ask when you are going to see her again.......
Or if you are at your work place teaching a class and mamasan calls you up and ask why you are giving her girls negative reviews........

Maybe it's time to start seeing more professional, local SP's.

Please don't look into the above comments too closely, they're just a hypothetical statements.

And I don't mean to be rude about Tug's staement about poisoning the well. I've been in this hobby long enough to know there's always someone out there willing to take your money.

Take care and play safe.

Continuing this thread will not resolve what has happened or change any of our outlooks to this issue. It only hurts Kelly's business and that is not what I am looking for.

She is a good and sincere person and wants to improve her business.
 

Pillowtalk

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Dang, this thread has really developed legs of it's own. Over 1300 hits in about a day.

This topic, like many other topics will never get settled. Everyone will have their opinions on it and there are valid points for both sides.

I just believe what is posted in here should stay in here. This is a hobby that shouldn't really see the light of day or it'll cause problems and uncomfortable situations for many of us. There's always the exception for those that just don't give a crap about what others think.

I will probably continue to see Kelly's crue since I still want her to succeed and will repeat with the ones I think are worthwhile, but will just be a little more careful of what I post here.

I really don't understand this. Anyone can read reviews. Only a complete idiot (manager, pimpsan, or sp) couldn't figure out which person they saw that posted a any review unless the review was so vague even the reviewer couldn't figure out who they are. I have a hard time believing that any other pimpsan doesn't read the reviews all the time, or look for them. And tant likes to refer to the reviews to the sps, so even if he didn't mention your review specifically, he'd tell them about his own. (He used to give out 'advice' all the time, and with that would mention reviews posted).

You can't specifically blame him or any other viewer for mentioning a review you posted, like its supposed to be fyi eyes only top secret don't ask don't tell kind of stuff. You posted it on a public forum, registering as a member is not even required. And even if it was, you wouldn't be stopping any sp, manager, or anyone else from knowing who posted the review.

And really, 'keeping info', like duh. How do you think sps, bookers, etc recognize you when you call them back? Total recall and photographic memories?

Don't be so ridiculous. If after 20 years nothing bad has happened to you in spite of all this 'detail' about you, then it is unlikely to happen tomorrow. And if you are really interested in staying under the radar, then don't go see illegals working without proper documentation.

Now of course I disagree that anyone, sp or their booker or whoever, should contact clients for any reason. But that is also found to be quite acceptable by the clients of micros. When they get a new sp in, it is reported here that their regular clients are called or sent a text all the time. It is the tradeoff, they are not discreet about that. If you don't like that happening, as mentioned you don't visit setups that do that.
 
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