Rant

[pcb]

This is more a rant than a review. I've always thought what is posted in here stays in here. This board was set up to help the pooners and not the SP's.

I post a review on Angie on here after years of not posting my sessions and within a couple days, I get a call and was asked not to post reviews. SHe didn't sound too upset, but it just puts me in an awkward position.

So, WTF are we running here. Do I start giving just positive reviews regardless of how I really thought of them. Shoudl I become a "Shill" like some of the others on here. I always thought we were here for our fellow pooners, but obviously not.

I review the SP's as I see them. I have nothing to gain from them.

After speaking with the mamasan of my last review, I am sure I know who reported it back to her. I think this is total BS and have made me very skeptical of his reviews after finding out more about their relationship.

 

[CisForCookie]

I don't get whether if it was reported back or not matters?

It's not like the mamasan or any other provider couldn't just open up a browser and do a search or view posts.

I post a review on Angie on here after years of not posting my sessions and within a couple days, I get a call and was asked not to post reviews.

So basically a no review policy on her operations / girls period? If it's a no review period policy then it's fine, if it's a only super positive reviews then it smells like doodoo.

Some private micro's that don't even advertise especially on shit sites like ERS have a no review policy. It's like fight club's 1st and 2nd rule

So, WTF are we running here. Do I start giving just positive reviews regardless of how I really thought of them. Shoudl I become a "Shill" like some of the others on here.

Ouch...

I was once told I shouldn't review certain awesome girls because that would cause them to be super booked I was like meh, I'll sing their praises because I want to, if I can't book them because they're super booked oh well? Not like my to-do list is hurting

I guess I like sharing...

 

[pcb]

It's one thing if she comes on here and finds out, but it's another when someone reports it. She doesn't use the internet and from what I was told, she has someone that handles all this for her as a favour of some sorts. It was this person that reported me.

I don't believe in a no report Micro. If they are willing to take my money, what I do on my time afterwards is mu business. If they don't agree with that, don't do my business.

Just like there are SP's that require references of their new clients. That's their perogative. Just like I am free to chose the SP's I spend my money on.

Besides, if it bothers her so much that I am honest with my reviews, then don't do my business in the future, but don't call me and tell me about it.

 

[GATSBY]

Not surprised that something like this can happen. I just want to say that I appreciate your honest reviews.

 

[BingBong]

This is more a rant than a review. I've always thought what is posted in here stays in here. This board was set up to help the pooners and not the SP's.

I post a review on Angie on here after years of not posting my sessions and within a couple days, I get a call and was asked not to post reviews. SHe didn't sound too upset, but it just puts me in an awkward position.

So, WTF are we running here. Do I start giving just positive reviews regardless of how I really thought of them. Shoudl I become a "Shill" like some of the others on here. I always thought we were here for our fellow pooners, but obviously not.

I review the SP's as I see them. I have nothing to gain from them.

After speaking with the mamasan of my last review, I am sure I know who reported it back to her. I think this is total BS and have made me very skeptical of his reviews after finding out more about their relationship.

Does this mean that negative reviews could be removed for a price?

 

[ThisEndUp]

Yes, it happens, either they look things up themselves or ther managers/agents/boyfriends/pimps do

Then there are white knights that are known to report back to the sp's looking for brownie points/freebies

Post what YOU want to post about the sp's you want to post about.

Fuck the rest

 

[pcb]

I just met up with the mamasan this evening and want to clarify a couple things.

Firstly, I should not have implied that the reviewer received any kickbacks or perks from his reviews. I havce no proof of this. From my initial conversation with the mamasan, it just sounded like it, but with her minimal english and my basic chinese, it was difficult to make out. For this I appologize.

But I still don't believe what is reviewed here should be reported back to any Micro owners or SP's. If this continues to occur, the reviews here will no longer have any credibility's.

To be perfectly clear, I do like Kelly as a person and hope she does well, but I must be honest with my reviews. We owe it to our fellow pooners to review what we experience. $ 120, $ 140 or whatever the about we budget for our outings may not be a lot of money for some of us, but it may be someones monthly pooning budget. And I would hate to have someone waste it because of a false review I posted.

 

[CisForCookie]

It's one thing if she comes on here and finds out, but it's another when someone reports it.

Good point.

I don't believe in a no report Micro. If they are willing to take my money, what I do on my time afterwards is mu business. If they don't agree with that, don't do my business.

So if a micro has a no review policy because they want to keep under the radar, rather than say trying to cover up their lack luster line up, their poor booking experience or their poor service, you wouldn't respect that?

Besides, if it bothers her so much that I am honest with my reviews, then don't do my business in the future, but don't call me and tell me about it.

Yeah your review wasn't overly negative at all, it was meh at best.

I remember totally dumping on a Maggie experience I had recently. I wonder if Maggie reads the boards or if someone told her

Whatever if they told her good, hopefully she'll improve her operations.

The whole experience was actually good for me, probably didn't affect her much.

I took my business else where, lol it broke my chinese food habit, I've been dining caucasian a lot lately.

 

[CisForCookie]

I just met up with the mamasan this evening

Kelly available for bookings at all? How do you guys keep meeting up or talking to her on the phone and not *cough* try to book a session in a flirty kind of way...

Firstly, I should not have implied that the reviewer received any kickbacks or perks from his reviews. I havce no proof of this.

Didn't know the kickback or perk from his review was what you were pissed about, thought it was the fact that he reported back

We owe it to our fellow pooners to review what we experience. $ 120, $ 140 or whatever the about we budget for our outings may not be a lot of money for some of us, but it may be someones monthly pooning budget. And I would hate to have someone waste it because of a false review I posted.

I'll drink to that...

poon only once a month? ouch

 

[rider101]

I'm not a big poster of reviews...but all I can say is keep it real!!

 

[sevenofnine]

i think your perspective is wrong

this board exist not for us pooners,

the reason this board is here is so that the girls can advertize they pay for that and in a sense they have control of editorial content.
talk to a lady they pay big bucks to have a banner on a board, how many times it comes up its postition etc etc

this board is here for them and i guess the owner so he can charge them
not for me and you the average pooner

its like everything money talks. the girls pay to advertize its there board not mine

 

[pcb]

No, I met up with Kelly in person. Like I've always said, I like Kelly and she is an honest and sincere person, but it is what it is. I have to report what I experienced as honestly as I can. I think we parted on good terms and I will continue visit her when she has new girls. I just hope she selects and trains them better.

 

[skiguru]

i think your perspective is wrong

this board exist not for us pooners,

the reason this board is here is so that the girls can advertize they pay for that and in a sense they have control of editorial content.
talk to a lady they pay big bucks to have a banner on a board, how many times it comes up its postition etc etc

this board is here for them and i guess the owner so he can charge them
not for me and you the average pooner

its like everything money talks. the girls pay to advertize its there board not mine

I think you're off target here. The board is very definitely her for us. The advertisers here have no more control over what is said than any other business person has over the editorial content of the radio or newspaper, or whatever their advertising medium happens to be.

More so than the advertiser's on here, I find that the content is controlled more by a handful of "mega-posters". They all have their favorite lady(ies) and god help you if you post anything negative about her. Having said this, there are a handful of these posters that have always been fair and objective and are willing to accept that someone may not have had as great an experience as they usually do - I enjoy reading their posts and thank them for their objectivity.

Negative reviews are positive, if they are written honestly and taken the right way by those reading them. What I find to be negative might really turn someone else's crank; it's not for me to decide, nor should it influence my decision to post a review. The point is, like buying a car, you read all the reviews,good and bad, and make your own decision based on what you're willing to accept.

There are other posters on here who, after several thousand posts, have written hardly a single review but will flame your ass at the first sign of negativity toward any of the advertisers on here. These guys show up everywhere in life and without them, life would be too simple, however they do tend to be a little counterproductive to the site sometimes.

Just another 2 cents' worth from me. Let the flaming begin.

 

[pcb]

I think the comments made by sevenofnine are his way of sarcasm, or at least I hope they are.

 

[vancity_cowboy]

i think sevenofnine is partly right, but he wasn't here in the beginning. if he had been, he would know that there wouldn't be a board to advertise on or collect revenue from if it wasn't for the reviewers. in nature this is known as a symbiotic relationship

once it became a popular reviewing venue, the vancouver section was split off from TERB and became PERB, and it wasn't long before the sp's realized that they should be advertising on it. from a thin stream of advertising revenue, the potential was realized and it morphed into what it is today

but believe me pardners when i say if the last review ever was written today, by the end of the month there would be no more ads and no more revenue :nod:

***edit***

well, ok... it would take a little longer for the shill reviews to dry up, but once the providers and their 'managers' realized that there were no more pooners reading the shill reviews, THEN it would all dry up

as an example of what i'm saying, how many of you read what's happening on The Big Doggie on a regular basis?

there was a day when the big doggie was just as active as perb is right now. the board management decided that these damn vancouver pooners just HAD to be re-educated out of their boorish ways, and overmoderated the board in a way that killed honest reviews. what did the honest pooners do? they went to the vancouver section of TERB... and here we are

 

[GATSBY]

^ Thanks Pardner! It's interesting to learn a little history about how this board came to be. How long ago was this switch?

 

[Papa Chongo]

You gotta keep reviewing, it is the only way to give this board any credit, and if an SP doesn't like a negative review then she can comment tastefully without hurting her business..and go get some good reviews ( By offering great service )

I thank the reviewers on this board everytime I have a good session with a lady I have chosen because of them.

 

[vancity_cowboy]

^ Thanks Pardner! It's interesting to learn a little history about how this board came to be. How long ago was this switch?

i believe 2002 is the first join date

 

[wilde]

This is more a rant than a review. I`ve always thought what is posted in here stays in here. This board was set up to help the pooners and not the SP`s.

I post a review on Angie on here after years of not posting my sessions and within a couple days, I get a call and was asked not to post reviews. SHe didn`t sound too upset, but it just puts me in an awkward position.

So, WTF are we running here. Do I start giving just positive reviews regardless of how I really thought of them. Shoudl I become a "Shill" like some of the others on here. I always thought we were here for our fellow pooners, but obviously not.

I review the SP`s as I see them. I have nothing to gain from them.

After speaking with the mamasan of my last review, I am sure I know who reported it back to her. I think this is total BS and have made me very skeptical of his reviews after finding out more about their relationship.

I think you got "outed" inadvertently by tantalizerme, see here: https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?169783-Should-we-try-to-keep-PERB-secret-from-Asian-SPs. He appears to be defending his actions while condemning yours, see below.

If I understand the brother`s rant correctly, he implies that anyone leaking top-secret info about the existence of PERB to Asian SPs is suspect of being a shill.

Apparently, he also wants to make it some sort of rule that we can`t inform Asian SPs about PERB.

Wow.

Wow indeed...

I don`t think any of the micros is a paid advertiser here so they have no pull other than the pimps/shills/papasans masquerading as reviewers. So keep the reviews coming and not let these pests bother you.

 

[pcb]

I don't think I posted anywhere who it was and I wouldn't publically do that without any proof.
And I didn't say it was inadvertently or I would have just brushed it off as something of an oversight by the person that did.
I was told specifically by the mamasan that the reviewer here gave detailed specifics of my review and that was how she figured out it was me.

If he had just said there were some marginal reviews on her girls, the mamasan would not have known it was me, but with the specifics that I posted, it was pretty easy.

I think we have beaten this topic to death already. I should not have made this public and accepted that these things can happen.

Take care everyone and play safe.