Randy Orton new World Heavyweight Champion @ WWE Summerslam 2004!!!

scott231

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What NWA - TNA needs is for guy like Rupert Murdoch who owns Fox to join in a partnership with Jerry Jarrett who operates TNA, There was talk of giving a 2 hour TNA Wrestling progam on the FX network which is a cable network owned by Fox in the U.S. I don't know if that is still in the works as TNA programing is airing on Fox Sportsnet in the U.S. WWE Smackdown! is a joke with JBL as the WWE Champion.
 

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I think Randy Orton's face turn was a bit too soon. What should have happend was HHH getting booted out due to the fact he has lost twice to benoit and never brought the gold back home to evolution. Randy Orton now becomes the leader w/Batista playing the enforcer role, soon after ric flair can be kicked out. You can now put Edge & a returning Christian as the tag team slot.

As for WWE going back to 5 ppv's a month. Unless the WWE does some major roster cutting and go back to one brand, it's not going to happen. It is hard to establish new talent with just one brand anyways.

There are a few indy promotions people might want to check out or may have already out here in BC.

Pro wrestling canada

ECCW

Just Wrestling

TRW


All star wrestling is another promotion, but there website is currently down.

ECCW, ASPW, Just Wrestling & TRW charge about $10 for tickets.

TRW has their shows in abbortsford though.

PWC is going to be having there debut show, a bit more expensive then the others but they will put out all the stops i'm sure.

Alternatives to the WWE, and you can not lose for $10
 

scott231

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Triple H is a better bad guy so kicking Randy Orton out of the group was the best scenerio considering Randy Orton has been getting face pops for the last few months. Randy Orton is a great wrestler and good on the mic BUT I don't think we will ever see another wrestler with popularity, great mic skills, ability to sell out house shows and sell mercandise like hot cakes and drive tv ratings up the roof, like The Rock, "Stone Cold" Steve Austin did between 1997- 2002, and Hulk Hogan and Andre The Giant did between 1984 - 1991, those days are long gone. ECCW is were the Honkytonk Man wrestles and Sabu, Jerry Lynn, Steve Corino and Jim The Anvil Niedheart wrestle from time to time, I've never been to one of their shows but I've heard
 

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For Orton to be a credible Main event heel and champion it would have been best if he had taken the leadership away from hhh. "Student" vs "Teacher" sort of speak, and the offical kickout should have happend a little while after summerslam at least. Orton w/ flair taking over the JJ dillon role would go along with Batista, Edge & Christian. If flair turned face then you could replace him with Trish Stratus.

Orton vs HHH now sounds interesting, and it could easily be built up untill WM 21. You start @ Surivor series with a elimanation match between Evolution vs HHH, Benoit, Jericho & HBK. Evolution would win when Orton pins Triple H, you can have Triple H pick up a non title win against randy orton leading into the rumble. Maybe have Orton throw an incentive to whoever elimanates HHH in the rumble, cash possibly?. Would love to see an wargames match between those 8 men, the buildup would have written itself really.

Now orton just becomes a dull face champ who drops the belt to HHH. Instead of HHH chasing Randy Orton for the belt, eventually defeating him @ WM 21. As you mentioned before it looks like HHH will drop the belt to orton @ survivor series, which is a shame.

As for ECCW, i have been going to shows since October of 97. Good entertainment for $10, i have seen some matches that have been on par with the WWE at times. Jerry Lynn never did a show for eccw, but Tommy dreamer did.
 

niteowl

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I personally think it would be intersting if the WWE were to bring in WCW's Lethal Lottery. Think about it. One member from Raw teams up with someone from Smackdown then do it again to amke up another team. Could you imagine if Bubba-Ray faced off again D-von? How about one Evolution member vs another? That would make things interesting.

Halloween Havoc in October still sounds better than Taboo Tuesday.
 

JD24_7

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If WWE put on the war games match @ Taboo Tuesday, I would def buy the ppv.

The problem with the lethal lottery is that the majority of the smackdown and raw wrestlers have actually faced each other before, so there wouldn't be any surprises that i can think of.
 

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Vince won't acknowledge the fact that anything wcw-related has had any shred of success in its time.


that's why you don't see vince using the triple cage, war games, and severely under-pushed wrestlers like Booker T wallowing away in the midcard.



Vince's pride will be his downfall, i tellya that.
 

niteowl

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If you think it's Vince's pride will be his down fall, Give me a Hell,yeah.

I think it will be Vince's arrogance that will lead to his downfall. If you hear me, give me a Holler,Holler,Holler, Holler.
 

JD24_7

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I can see the triple cage not being used because simply put it was a complete joke, i would compare the Triple cage to the Elimanation chamber. Costs a whole lot of money, and does not do anything.

Booker T is a shell of his former self, age and injuries have caught up to him.
 

scott231

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WWE Raw

WWE Raw this past Monday night was by far the WORST WWF\WWE show I've ever seen, only 2 matches in 2hrs and 10 minutes, The Rock showing up with the Raw Diva contestants was a complete waste of time, the wedding was retarded, the Edge vs Jericho match had 3 commercial breaks in it. Chris Benoit wrestled a match taped for WWE Sunday Night Heat? WTF, Benoit been relegated to a midcarder again? And Vince McMahon wonders why his product become so stale?
 

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thr rock segment was hilarious....

Wedding angle was horrible but that throw to the table was awesome.

I agree with the lack of matches but it was clear mcmahon wanted the ratings this week!
 

niteowl

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How are you suppose to have ratings when you show only two matches and have three weddings aired on TV in the history of the WWE. (unless I'm wrong about the latter).

Check this out. This is Hogan's opinion about wrestling now compare to yesteryears.

http://www.usavanguard.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2004/08/24/412c251bd5156
 

scott231

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Vince McMahon should combine both rosters together to improve the product, a John Cena vs Randy Orton match would be great
 
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