Question: What service level should we expect?

volks

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Allright, after posting about my awful experiences about Serenity in Surrey, I am finally opening this discussion. The question is this:

Should the length of time we request be reflected in the level of service we recieve?

Now, let me give some thought to this. I have been in various service positions within the financial sector for about seven years now. My latest position was one of travelling throughout BC and the Yukon training service staff on how to enhance the customer service expereince. I may not be a complete expert in this field, but I have been hired because of my education and relative experience, and I feel I do my job well with results that would back up that conclusion.

Granted, the escort/MP industry is a very unique one, and certainly deals with the depths of human experience, or it does at times anyways. To start off, think about the difference between a great experience you have had with an SP, and a terrible one.

Perhaps there are some perberts who believe me to be cheap, cheating the girls by only staying for the minimum times. This is not always the case, and I am a prolific hobbyist, often visiting a provider up to once a week. I have money to spend in this hobby if I want to, and I will if I meet a fantastic provider.

My point is this: If a woman gives me her full attention, care, and service no matter what amount of time I decide to stay for, she earns my respect and admiration, and probably a second (longer) visit. For those that I perceive a lower level of service and an attitude that reveals they are unhappy with the amount of time I have asked for, will not likely see me again.

I have some great experiences with some wonderful women, and I have enjoyed even the shorter times with them. There can be any number of reasons why we may want to stay only a shorter time; it could be due to budget, or time pressures, wanting to simply "check it out" and attempting to hedge our losses if it is a WOT. But in any service industry it is those who are willing to treat me as their primary focus for that time (short or long as it may be) that will earn my spending dollars, and more.

If there are any SPs on the board who would like to ring in, please let me know your thoughts...fellow perberts as well, agree, disagree?

volks.
 
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I agree with you Volks. I think that it doesn't matter about the length of time with the provider it's all about the quality of time with them. If they accept 30 minute sessions, then I would expect to have a quality 30 minutes and not a ho-hum session because you're only there for a quickie. There is such a thing as repeat business. What may be 30 minutes today could be a 2 hour session next time.
 

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I can understand if the girls reserve the extra special treatment for longer sessions or repeat clients, but they should still be providing adequate service for shorter visits (unless you are requesting a session shorter than they typically offer :confused: ). After all this is a service based industry and if they continually provide sub-par service then they will have difficulty getting new/repeat clients.

However the situation you describe is not unique to escorts/MP's. You can go into any retail store and receive different levels of service depending on the amount of money you are planning to spend, or even just based on the way you are dressed.

In the escort/MP industry there are a lot more factors that can influence your perceived level of service. You can't realistically expect to receive great service for the whole session if the girl finds you completely repulsive. It all comes down to YMMV. So find someone who provides A+ service for you and stick with her. :D
 

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volks said:
Allright, after posting about my awful experiences about Serenity in Surrey, I am finally opening this discussion. The question is this:

Should the length of time we request be reflected in the level of service we recieve?

Now, let me give some thought to this. I have been in various service positions within the financial sector for about seven years now. My latest position was one of travelling throughout BC and the Yukon training service staff on how to enhance the customer service expereince. I may not be a complete expert in this field, but I have been hired because of my education and relative experience, and I feel I do my job well with results that would back up that conclusion.

Granted, the escort/MP industry is a very unique one, and certainly deals with the depths of human experience, or it does at times anyways. To start off, think about the difference between a great experience you have had with an SP, and a terrible one.

Perhaps there are some perberts who believe me to be cheap, cheating the girls by only staying for the minimum times. This is not always the case, and I am a prolific hobbyist, often visiting a provider up to once a week. I have money to spend in this hobby if I want to, and I will if I meet a fantastic provider.

My point is this: If a woman gives me her full attention, care, and service no matter what amount of time I decide to stay for, she earns my respect and admiration, and probably a second (longer) visit. For those that I perceive a lower level of service and an attitude that reveals they are unhappy with the amount of time I have asked for, will not likely see me again.

I have some great experiences with some wonderful women, and I have enjoyed even the shorter times with them. There can be any number of reasons why we may want to stay only a shorter time; it could be due to budget, or time pressures, wanting to simply "check it out" and attempting to hedge our losses if it is a WOT. But in any service industry it is those who are willing to treat me as their primary focus for that time (short or long as it may be) that will earn my spending dollars, and more.

If there are any SPs on the board who would like to ring in, please let me know your thoughts...fellow perberts as well, agree, disagree?

volks.
What I know is that if I don't provide all of my skills and knowledge in my profession I'll get sued. I'm fully aware of this so I do give my 'customers' all that is expected. I'll probably get flamed for this, but I've always wondered why some SPs seem to think that because their parents passed them on some good genetics they think they should be paid $300 - $400 an hour for less than "adequate service". It probably goes along with the narcissism they developed because of being spoiled by their daddys. :rolleyes:
 

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PERB to the Rescue

This is the an opportunity for PERB to provide a valuable service for us all so thank-you for introducing this thread. This is a SERVICE industry has been around since Biblicale times. I live in Calgary and get to travel to Vancouver 4-6 times a year for a week. As a result of PERB Reviews I have found the potential for two great providers in the Burnaby area (one Hungarian, and one who giggles whom I have talked with both since joining) so for that I thank you for those that post threads. And yes there is still the FOX'S DEN to visit.
I am still getting up to speed on all the terms and phrases (first thing PERB could post is a dictionary) but could not all the posting by SP's have check boxes for what they provide. DATY, GFE, cowgirl, CBJ, russian, pearl necklace, Greek, smoker, non smoker I know there is more don't know what the correct number is too many boxes and the SP's will not fill out to few and the consumer is ill informed to make an educated decesion and end up with a session he is unhappy with and hence perhaps a poor review but certainly no repeat business so the SP loses in the long run. I also have seen that many SP have their own web page but since this is not universal to all providers I don't believe we should demand they are out of pocket the cost to maintain and update on a regular basis. This leaves me to photos and more importantly timing and accuracy. Again thanks to a review a recent traveling SP to Calgary had favourable shots on her web was visitedby a PERB to find her weigth reported at 130 wasy closer to 160. Having just made arrangements to pick her up at one of our local malls I saw for myself before bailing she was probably closer to 180. Having timedated pictures or as with Euros they have a 6 month verification period. If I am out of line with this I aplogize if it should be a thread I will repost this needs a lot more work from someone with more experience than me.
 

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Brandi said:
Honey we try we really try but you have to understand there are many different varied reasons why a guy doesnt always get the best service. Its such a personal service I am sure you can understand. for your best results when you call have nice breath, no stinky botton, no heavy colonge or i cant breath, for me a non smoker is preffered as I dont smoke so can imagine what its like being close to a smoker for us non smokers it stinks do you wana be close and fun with something that stinks? you wouldnt so we are no different. and most smokers have one just before we get togther. that said i have many clients who do smoke and get great service. but i dont enjoy it as much. also biggest turn off someone who has been drinking or gotten high. and also someone who has additude. when you book and are late, etc etc many reasons the list can go on. any other ladies wana tell them so we can all get better service.
Man, this girl has got class that I thought was long forgotten. Brandi, your discussions suggest that you are the illustration of class. Continue with your behaviour and your calender will be full ten times over :) :)
 
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insync2you said:
This leaves me to photos and more importantly timing and accuracy. Again thanks to a review a recent traveling SP to Calgary had favourable shots on her web was visitedby a PERB to find her weigth reported at 130 wasy closer to 160. Having just made arrangements to pick her up at one of our local malls I saw for myself before bailing she was probably closer to 180. Having timedated pictures or as with Euros they have a 6 month verification period. If I am out of line with this I aplogize if it should be a thread I will repost this needs a lot more work from someone with more experience than me.
As much as I agree with the points you raised, I think what you're describing is not so much a lack of service level, but instead possibly misrepresenting themselves which I believe to be a whole other issue. If you think an SP's ad is misleading by using outdated photos or incorrect descriptions or stats, you should mention that in a review. You don't have to slam the SP cause all that will do is cause a flame war and your post will probably get turfed. However if you do so in a tasteful manner, your post will probably stay and may be validated by other PERBerts.
 

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Brandi said:
Honey we try we really try but you have to understand there are many different varied reasons why a guy doesnt always get the best service. Its such a personal service I am sure you can understand. for your best results when you call have nice breath, no stinky botton, no heavy colonge or i cant breath, for me a non smoker is preffered as I dont smoke so can imagine what its like being close to a smoker for us non smokers it stinks do you wana be close and fun with something that stinks? you wouldnt so we are no different. and most smokers have one just before we get togther. that said i have many clients who do smoke and get great service. but i dont enjoy it as much. also biggest turn off someone who has been drinking or gotten high. and also someone who has additude. when you book and are late, etc etc many reasons the list can go on. any other ladies wana tell them so we can all get better service.
and ironically, i have seen sp's who smoke, wear a ton of perfume, didn't shower AND had a stinky bottom and bad breath and a crappy attitude.

oh yeah, must have been my fault.
 

volks

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Brandi...

I don't smoke, don't toke, and have never had a drop of alcohol before seeing an SP, I know how it is gross. I always shower, never wear cologne and keep myself in great shape. I am 28, relatively good-looking (enough to keep my dating life busy if I want), self-confident but not cocky.

So, what's my problem?

volks.
 

Eden

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My Two Cents and more.......

Of course this is only my opinion and being such I do expect to get flames from the "girls", but as I see it I have earned my right to open my mouth with my reviews and my reputation standing behind me.

You, as the client, have the right to great service no matter what the time frame is, are we forgetting who is paying who? It is no excuse if the girl doesn't normally see clients for shorter time periods, but decided to anyways and you ended up with the short end of the stick. If this is her rule, she needs to stick by it! If she bends it, then you should get the same service as if you booked an hour or two.

I said it before and I will say it again, ymmv is crap, unless it is an abusive and degrading situation. YMMV IMHO, is if you are picking a chic up at the bar, buying her a few drinks with the hope of getting laid at the end of it, then you are simply going on dumb luck.

Lets face it no matter what the industry is, if there is a service being provided, that is being paid for, then suck it up princess and do your best. You shouldn't get better service if you are good looking, pay extra, or bring a gift (don't get me wrong it is a plus, but not necessary). You may get something back for the gesture, like a few extra minutes or so.

Do you think that the doctor is going to give you any better service if you bring a gift or are better looking? I could be wrong, but I don't think so.

It is ultimately the ladies responsibility to provide excellent service no matter what the circumstances are (exceptions are noted above), after all she made the decision to stay or have you stay. If a lady does not think that she can provide you with great service why did she take your money? Do you really think that actors and actresses like 100% of their job? I don't think so, but if they want to make it, they make sacrafices they grin and bear it, and hope the next time is better.

Ultimately, if the lady lets the gentleman stay, then it is her responsibility to make sure he has a good time. If there are restrictions that a lady has, she needs to be up front about it either on the phone or during the introductory period of the appointment, not half way through. Men respond far better to "oooooh, yeah I like it when you put your hands over here better, it is a real turn on", versus " ow, you can't do that", or "I don't allow that", or "not there"! If you say it negatively chances are the gentleman is going to react negatively. Most times when you say or do something in a positive way, you get positive results back.

If they stink, have B.O., or are rude address it right then and there! Showers work wonders and if you have a see through shower curtain it makes all the difference to entice someone to use it whilst providing a little show for a motivation tool. Certain situations call for some creativity, but isn't that what you are paying or getting paid for. It's called a "SURE THING"!

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LonelyGhost said:
and ironically, i have seen sp's who smoke, wear a ton of perfume, didn't shower AND had a stinky bottom and bad breath and a crappy attitude. oh yeah, must have been my fault.
C'mon Ghost, you of all people should agree that everyone deserves a first, if not a second and third, chance to prove themselves? :confused:
 

volks

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Eden said:
Of course this is only my opinion and being such I do expect to get flames from the "girls", but as I see it I have earned my right to open my mouth with my reviews and my reputation standing behind me.

You, as the client, have the right to great service no matter what the time frame is, are we forgetting who is paying who? It is no excuse if the girl doesn't normally see clients for shorter time periods, but decided to anyways and you ended up with the short end of the stick. If this is her rule, she needs to stick by it! If she bends it, then you should get the same service as if you booked an hour or two.

I said it before and I will say it again, ymmv is crap, unless it is an abusive and degrading situation. YMMV IMHO, is if you are picking a chic up at the bar, buying her a few drinks with the hope of getting laid at the end of it, then you are simply going on dumb luck.

Lets face it no matter what the industry is, if there is a service being provided, that is being paid for, then suck it up princess and do your best. You shouldn't get better service if you are good looking, pay extra, or bring a gift (don't get me wrong it is a plus, but not necessary). You may get something back for the gesture, like a few extra minutes or so.

Do you think that the doctor is going to give you any better service if you bring a gift or are better looking? I could be wrong, but I don't think so.

It is ultimately the ladies responsibility to provide excellent service no matter what the circumstances are (exceptions are noted above), after all she made the decision to stay or have you stay. If a lady does not think that she can provide you with great service why did she take your money? Do you really think that actors and actresses like 100% of their job? I don't think so, but if they want to make it, they make sacrafices they grin and bear it, and hope the next time is better.

Ultimately, if the lady lets the gentleman stay, then it is her responsibility to make sure he has a good time. If there are restrictions that a lady has, she needs to be up front about it either on the phone or during the introductory period of the appointment, not half way through. Men respond far better to "oooooh, yeah I like it when you put your hands over here better, it is a real turn on", versus " ow, you can't do that", or "I don't allow that", or "not there"! If you say it negatively chances are the gentleman is going to react negatively. Most times when you say or do something in a positive way, you get positive results back.

If they stink, have B.O., or are rude address it right then and there! Showers work wonders and if you have a see through shower curtain it makes all the difference to entice someone to use it whilst providing a little show for a motivation tool. Certain situations call for some creativity, but isn't that what you are paying or getting paid for. It's called a "SURE THING"!

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Oh, Eden I wish I could have met you...very nice post, thank you.

volks.
 

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C'mon Ghost, you of all people should agree that everyone deserves a first, if not a second and third, chance to prove themselves? :confused:
oh yeah, nothing like a second helping of stinky butt fumes!

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PERB is a great resource for information, but as long as men insist on choosing providers/girlfriends/mates etc based on looks alone there are going to always be service complaints.
 

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volks said:
Oh, Eden I wish I could have met you...very nice post, thank you.

volks.
i've never met anyone better ... set a really high standard with great service and an awesome attitude!
 

volks

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LonelyGhost said:
i've never met anyone better ... set a really high standard with great service and an awesome attitude!
And if only more SPs did that this industry would be a lot better for all involved...but some people just don't get it.

volks.
 

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LonelyGhost said:
oh yeah, nothing like a second helping of stinky butt fumes!

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So what's this about? Are you aware of something about Brandi that I'm not? :confused:

P.S. You know I'm not a shill, so please give me a straight answer.
 

Eden

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I didn't see him mention anything about Brandi in his post, he was simply responding to what she had said with a direct quote from her. I would suggest for you not to make this personal as it only starts flame wars and discontentment from other perb members.

Lets all get along in the sandbox shall we!

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Eden said:
I didn't see him mention anything about Brandi in his post, he was simply responding to what she had said with a direct quote from her. I would suggest for you not to make this personal as it only starts flame wars and discontentment from other perb members.

Lets all get along in the sandbox shall we!

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Fair enough. I quite like Brandi from her posts, and I dislike flame wars :)
 
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