Question for anyone trying to retire from the hobby...

[xraytext]

... Seeing escorts can be extremely therapeutic for many guys. It's a form of holistic-healthcare IMO. And its soooooo much more healthier than just jerking off to porn all the time. Much better seeing real human ladies in the flesh regularly..as long as your bank account can support your hobby.. at least it won't break your stick like what can happen to porn addicts who require a combination of high-speed internet porn & death-grip to get up & get off...

Not sayin to stay away from porn..but if it's the ONLY kind of sex someone is having there's a high risk of it leading to performance issues later on down the line when the guy finally finds himself trying to have intimate time with a real woman...

Yes, sex is therapeutic in terms of both mind and body. Sex is also an exchange of trust and consent (in the case of escorting trust and consent is quickened by a financial component).

"Addiction" is a contextual label and often too liberally applied eg "I am addicted to Bikram's yoga". Trust and consent are not associated with "addictive" behaviours.

As for masterbation, maybe it becomes problematic if you've self-stimulated until you're left with an insensitive bloody pulp of an organ. If that's occurred, there are other diagnoses available.

I'll add a 3 minute porn clip and fist full of lube cannot be equated with the company of an escort who blows your mind. One is like an iTunes sample, the other a Dave Matthews concert.

BTW - per the original poster's proposition --- Each time I read it, my first thought is they're "troll baiting". As others have pointed out there are sound programs to assist those concerned about their sexual behaviour.

 

[hornygandalf]

Yes sex can effect the reward circuitry of the brain (dopamine) like drugs do but humans desire sex NATURALLY... Seeing escorts can be extremely therapeutic for many guys. It's a form of holistic-healthcare IMO.

Yep! When one considers the health benefits of good sex, visits to SPs should be covered on extended health policies

 

[xraytext]

Yep! When one considers the health benefits of good sex, visits to SPs should be covered on extended health policies

Whole new meaning to "bedside manner"

 

[Larry Storch]

A very successful marketing campaign!!! So successful that even after some women learn the value of diamonds are artificially inflated they still want them as some proof of social status. And guys are expected to spend minimum 3 months income on one to show her he loves her? Such bullshit.

Civvie women who marry a man just because he puts a whatever-thousand-dollar rock on their fingers are really just prostitutes working on a different level IMO...

Rubies and emeralds are much prettier in my eyes..but still.. proof of love doesn't come from material items in my world...

I'm crushing so hard on you right now.

 

[yazoo]

I'm thinking of starting a course that offers people who are trapped in the dating-leads-to-marriage-leads-to-divorce trap to exit, so that they can find their true self via participating in a healthy p4p lifestyle.

They will be rid of the emotional tantrums, the heartache, and the financial damage that this dating/marriage lifestyle causes. So many people have stress related illnesses, and have even committed suicide because of it.

Of course I have no preconceptions, and will be completely unbiased as I encourage people to move to a more fulfilling and less emotionally destructive way of life.

 

[BofSea]

awww...I guess this means you won't be joining me for church service on sunday.
Damn...I had a super un-sexy good girl dress picked out & everything

I have a hard time believing you look "un-sexy" in anything !

 

[hornygandalf]

Alcohol, cocaine, methamphetamine & other drugs can be addictive.
Internet porn & internet gaming can be addictive.
Even processed food-like products.

And smart-phones? How many people can't go for an hour or two without checking their phone and getting a dose of dopamine from the new content (I think this might part of the attraction of Facebook as well)?

 

[Ms Erica Phoenix]

I'm thinking of starting a course that offers people who are trapped in the dating-leads-to-marriage-leads-to-divorce trap to exit, so that they can find their true self via participating in a healthy p4p lifestyle.

They will be rid of the emotional tantrums, the heartache, and the financial damage that this dating/marriage lifestyle causes. So many people have stress related illnesses, and have even committed suicide because of it.

Of course I have no preconceptions, and will be completely unbiased as I encourage people to move to a more fulfilling and less emotionally destructive way of life.

(insert Mr. Orson Welles slowclap gif here)

 

[sybian]

There are addictions that can be overcome and walked away from, like drugs or smoking for example.
Then there are the ones that have to be controled..Like eating disorders...You have to control it, because you have to consume sustenance to live....Sex addictions are like that as well.
Who could, or would want to live without it?
And Miss T....Your very crush-able.

 

[sevenofnine]

why quit,,
let it run its course, at some point you will burn out,

until then be sensible, everything in moderation. I mean if you enjoy doing something you have to do it in such a way you can continue indefinitely

 

[sandm]

I'm not trying to stop anyone from this pursuit if they are perfectly happy with it. I'm not interested in arguing or fighting people's wishes. I'm trying to connect specifically with people who have decided for their own reasons that they want to stop, so that I can learn from them what kind of assistance/support they need.

I've been speaking with counsellors and psychologists about their perspectives on the subject, but I genuinely want to hear from people who are dealing with this personally and facing challenges in their attempts to quit. To be clear, I'm NOT asking broadly "what would it take for you to quit?". What I want to know is: If you are someone who is wanting to quit and you've been having trouble quitting, what sort of assistance do you think would be beneficial to you? If that's you and you want to talk about this, please pm me. I would be so very grateful for your input.

Also, when I have referred to "behavioural change" previously, I want to clarify that I'm not advocating some kind of mystical mind control technique. I'm talking about practical steps a person can take, under their own conscious volition, to bring their actions back in line with their own desires. To take a benign example, if you want to start flossing your teeth every day, there are practical steps you can take to make this easier for yourself, much easier than just telling yourself "I need to floss more" or "I'm such a slob because I hardly ever floss". Instead of making yourself feel bad, which is not helpful, or trying to WILL yourself to do it, you can take small actions to make this part of your everyday routine: e.g. buying the floss you like and keeping it out in the open next to your toothbrush. Obviously, this is a dead simple example, and it's about creating a habit, not unwinding a habit, but this is what I mean when I'm talking about behavioural change. Nothing mystical.

If your desire is to continue in the "hobby" and that's what you continue to do, fine! But if your actions are not in line with your desires and you're miserable because of it, that's a problem. I have a friend who struggled to maintain what he knew at the time to be a "double life" and he was profoundly unhappy because of it. I know he's not the only one.

By the way, I'm a woman. My name is Suzy. Hi, how are ya?

 

[yazoo]

Oh now it's all perfectly clear. I was having a hard time figuring out how a dude could think that too much sex would make you miserable. Cuz if you look at the banter over the past few pages, I don't exactly think we're hurting.

So this unicorn that you are seeking is a red-blooded male who is paying for and receiving incredible sex and is positively miserable about it.

 

[Curiousgeorge604]

I'm sure any program to stop addiction will always look to resolve the root problem in order to prevent relapse.

This hobby can be very addictive. Look at my posts back in July/August. I've slowed it down now and it's manageable. For those who can't manage to control themselves could lead to financial hardship not just from the direct cost but also from the decline in productivity from obsessing over the hobby. I guarantee that this is VERY common.

We don't need to defend the hobby and attack the OP either. Everything in moderation. Those that stay within their means and have control can find it very enjoyable and rewarding.