Quebec is the laughing stock of the world (again)!

Lo-ki

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In the article it says

"Only one of five chapters in her thesis on cellular and molecular biology was written in English, for publication in a scientific journal.

"This is how scientists are communicating - they are sharing knowledge and this is done mostly in English-speaking journals," Ms Dubois said."

My question is ....why didn't she do it all in french and then send the chapter in English to the journal..????

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In the article it says

"Only one of five chapters in her thesis on cellular and molecular biology was written in English, for publication in a scientific journal.

"This is how scientists are communicating - they are sharing knowledge and this is done mostly in English-speaking journals," Ms Dubois said."

My question is ....why didn't she do it all in french and then send the chapter in English to the journal..????

**When in ROME do as the ROMANS do**
I know an airline pilot who flies to France on a regular run....Air Traffic control there will respond in English.
When landing in Quebec, they will respond in French...until English is requested by the pilot.
I believe the point is...right or wrong , that English is considered a universal language by most of the free world....unless your in Quebec.
In business I deal with a handful of clients from France....when Quebec is brought up in conversation, they do an eye roll.
 

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The more a group feels their identity is threatened, the more they dig in their heels. It's the cause of a lot of grief, both big and small.
 

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JT can count on either the Block Quebec or the NDP to get things through parliament. the Block and the conservatives still don't have enough votes over the Liberals....

Quebec is like that because of the 1940s,50s and 60s of English speaking managers promoted before a local french person. Management and workers did not see eye to eye(nor speak the same language at all). This is the root cause of the separatist movement in Quebec (the workers against the English management).
Quebec is the key source of how the number of seats in Parliament are made, and over the years have gotten favourable political favours from the Federal government( like the immigration policy). During both world wars, Quebec did not want to participate and the PM at those times, spent a lot of time and effort to prevent Quebec from leaving Canada. What French/Canadian troops that fought in both wars did very well, but the politicians in Quebec took advantage of it.

In the 1980s when the separatist movement was the greatest, a lot of English speaking companies moved to Ontario(basicly to get away from the bullshit). Montreal is a large transport area especially by ship to the rest of the world. The Montreal Stock market was larger than Toronto(Toronto overtook Montreal in 1934).

If you look at town names in Quebec near the Ontario border there are a lot of English named towns.

Due to education being an provincial thing, the schooling system neglects the rest of Canada history and importance, so a lot of the people coming from it are prejudiced against he rest of Canada. So when a young French Canadian goes to explore the rest of Canada they are in for a cultural shock. The last 20 years with the internet, you can't fool the kids anymore.

Also in an election when the province voted for the Separatist Party, they got less Federal government support, then if they were part of a majority (conservative or liberal). A factor that led them to jump from Liberal to conservative and to Block Quebecois and then to the NDP, and split this time between liberal/ Block Quebecois....

And the big factor affecting the federal civil service is that French people have an advantage over English speaking people. To really learn another language you have to immerse yourself in it. The French speaking have this advantage over the English speaking (first language).

The people in Quebec think as themselves as Quebecers First(again that education system) then as Canadians, whereas the rest of Canada mostly think of themselves as Canadians First.

The language laws of Quebec in the 1980s, the rejection of the Canadian Charter of Rights, and the recent religious bill, just shows that Quebec wants nothing more to do with anybodies elses religion and that they will control their language even though it is a bastard/slang form of French (different from french spoken in France). Alot of this sentiment is based in rural Quebec which is where the source of separatism first started.

Quebec is the first province to use the "he who whines the most, gets the most" ....
 

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This Term Not Québécois French enough has been around for decades.

Selling capital equipment to the Federal Government requires manuals in both official languages.

One year my company was the preferred supplier and we were asked to cost out equipment, spares, training and bilingual manuals. Being a smart guy, I thought I’d save the taxpayer $$$ by supplying manuals from the office in France. Immediately, I was advised the manuals were unacceptable because in their opinion were not French enough.

So the taxpayer paid through the nose to have everything documented translated by a Quebec company. I had factored in a nominal amount for the French manuals and the translation services bumped up the price by 25% per unit.
 

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I know an airline pilot who flies to France on a regular run....Air Traffic control there will respond in English.
When landing in Quebec, they will respond in French...until English is requested by the pilot.
I believe the point is...right or wrong , that English is considered a universal language by most of the free world....unless your in Quebec.
In business I deal with a handful of clients from France....when Quebec is brought up in conversation, they do an eye roll.
English was determined to be the universal language for aviation in the 1970’s. There have been numerous crashes killing hundreds and the determining factor was the language of commuications was not English.

Cockpit, tower and ground crews are all supposed to have english proficiency and are tested. I’m not saying what you posted is incorrect. Just posting what ICAO states.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviation_English
 

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Honestly, I don’t think the rest of the world spends a lot of time thinking about Quebec, or Canada.
 

lukom

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Didn't the French surrender to the English? Why is our country going through such great lengths to appease them? If they were an indigenous group, I'd say they have every right to demand that their culture/customs/language be respected, and I'd support them all the way. In this case we are dealing with cry baby progeny of colonizers who got defeated by other colonizers.
 

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Yeah Quebec has its problems with trying to keep their identity distinct from other parts of Canada, but who really gives a shit. I like most of their exports to British Columbia - Maple Syrup, Porn and fabulously busty women.
 

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September 13, 1759. Battle of the Plains of Abraham. British (English) defeated forces led by Montcalm. French were forced to turn over Quebec to the English. They're still pissed about it.
 

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September 13, 1759. Battle of the Plains of Abraham. British (English) defeated forces led by Montcalm. French were forced to turn over Quebec to the English. They're still pissed about it.
It is not that simple at all. That is so wrong I am not going to debate it.
 

lukom

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September 13, 1759. Battle of the Plains of Abraham. British (English) defeated forces led by Montcalm. French were forced to turn over Quebec to the English. They're still pissed about it.
The Southerners in the US have that same victimhood mentality.
 

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Yet the Americans couldn’t get support from the French Canadians when they invaded in 1775. So British rule couldn’t have been that bad.
 
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