Pride Parade

[Miss Laura Lea]

Why am I even posting to this thread?......thank christ there's
drag racing at the track this friday.....enjoy the parade.


...........QM'r

Oh it'll always be the kings that win.. they aren't wearing mini skirts and heels like the Queens!

 

[rickoshadows]

Don't be an idiot and did you read what I posted?

Did you read what you posted? You were lamenting the perception that straight people couldn't get away with the same outlandish behaviour that Gays/Lesbians do. Don't get out much? Check out some spring break destination sometime.

My point is that the Pride Parade is a demonstration that Gays and Lesbians have a right to exist/be in our society. A lot of Gays/Lesbians payed a high price for the right to parade today. More power to them. If you are willing to pay the same price, I'm sure you could have your own parade.

PS. I would try to make this simpler, but I'm all out of crayons.

 

[gravitas]

You were lamenting......

No, I was commenting that we've devolved to the point where every asshole or special interest group is afforded more rights and privileges then the majority. As for your spring break analogy is concerned that shouldn't be allowed either if the activities take place in public. We're a very tolerant society and accept a wide variety of activities and behaviors but IMO the fags are crossing the line with much of what takes place during their "pride' events.

A lot of Gays/Lesbians payed a high price for the right to parade today.

Thank you for helping to prove my point. Yes they've paid a high price for their EQUALITY they have today but they shouldn't be given more then the rest of us.

but I'm all out of crayons.

Oh you're so witty

 

[Lone Wolf]

Alright.......since no one else has done it I'll put this image in for you all!...

I see Peter Pan is still looking for his Tinkerbell!

God, that guy's been around for what...more than ten years now?

 

[rickoshadows]

Yes they've paid a high price for their EQUALITY they have today but they shouldn't be given more then the rest of us.

They weren't given equality, they took it. Nothing stops you from excercising the same.

 

[curvy_nympho]

My two cents

Originally Posted by gravitas
"Yes they've paid a high price for their EQUALITY they have today but they shouldn't be given more then the rest of us."

Gay, lesbian and transgendered people definitely do not have the same equality heterosexuals do. Just take a look at the posts in this thread!

Try walking a mile in a gay person's shoes for one week and you will understand why they have a parade.

Every day can be a struggle for G/L/T people from getting harrassed, made fun of, turned down for employment and so on. When was the last time someone was beat up for being hetero?

If you don't agree with any sexual orientation other than hetero, that's your business, but why knock others who are different than you?

Bella

 

[georgebushmoron]

Every day can be a struggle for G/L/T people from getting harrassed, made fun of, turned down for employment and so on. When was the last time someone was beat up for being hetero?

Yes, every day can be a struggle for GLT people. There ought to be no reason why a GLT person should be turned down for employment or beat up, I totally agree with this. But why should a person's sexual preference be a subject that is put out in public such that employment or simply walking down the street become an issue? Do normal hetero people walk down the street announcing (through words or actions) their sexual preference? When they do, for example, when some men in groups make sexual remarks to a woman who walks by, they usually get reprimanded. When a man makes a sexually suggestive remark to a woman at the office, he gets charged with sexual harrassment. When a hetero couple does sexually obscene things in public, they get arrested. An overly macho hetero guy is quietly ridiculed by others. So it should be that way for all, whether hetero or gay. So similarly a gay person who purposely makes their sexual preference known to the public, employer, etc, will get similar treatment of reprimand, harrassment, ridicule, etc. This is because nobody wants to know, or cares to know a person's sexual preference whether gay or straight in normal public life. I say a gay person or a straight person who goes around putting their sexual preference in the face of others is rightly going to get a negative response.

ya they were persecuted, discriminated against, scorned, etc. yet still fought for their right to do this or that. pls try to deal with it.

plus - and i know you won't agree with this but it has to be said:
THOSE PERSECUTED BY GENERAL SOCIETY IN THE PAST DESERVE A LITTLE SPECIAL TREATMENT IN THE PRESENT. of course there are time and other limitations on this but it is fundamentally a moral imperative.

People who are persecuted in the past need to be cut a little slack or "special treatment" in the present, as you say. I agree with this. But getting special treatment does not mean they should be allowed to violate moral norms of public behaviour. It does not mean they should be allowed to walk around with their assholes bared because children and other innocents may be offended or hurt by such actions, no matter how they were persecuted as a gay male. It does not mean a lesbian should be allowed to get on a public outdoor stage with loudspeaker yelling out how much she can't tolerate men and what wonderful things she can do with a dildo, and saying the word "pussy" and "fuck" a lot (yes, I heard all this as I walked by on Pacific Blvd 2 years ago). Sorry, but gay people need to respect that others may not share their same sexual tastes just as most hetero people do not foist their sexual tastes upon them.

The "fundamental moral imperative" you speak of is such a grand statement, but does not apply to these gay people because the basic morality of conducting oneself simply as a decent human being should first be satisfied. We should not have to accept the behaviour of the lowest forms.

 

[gravitas]

Nothing stops you from excercising the same.

I guarantee you that if I were to walk down McLeod Trail or Granville Street wearing nothing but a leather jock strap (sorry for the visual kids) as I was pawing at and licking a lady wearing only a bra and panties we'd both get picked up and charged with some sort of morality offense. And the cops would be in their place to do so.

I am proud to support the Gay and Lesbian community and I will be there on Sunday to cheer them on.

Well bully for you. Its NOT an issue of supporting or accepting them (and I mean them in the broadest sense....gays, muslims, one armed midgets who speak with a lisp, ANYONE)....everyone should be treated with the SAME respect and afforded the SAME rights. What you and rickshadow seem to miss the basic point that its not that I'm anti fag or dyke I'm anti special consideration.

I'm also all for the naked bike ride the straights do every year.

And they should also keep their saggy cocks and limp granola tits properly covered while in PUBLIC.

I don't give a shit about anyone's sexual orientation. It just beats me why people like to make an ass of themselves in public.

AMEN and exactly.

Just take a look at the posts in this thread!

Where has anyone suggested that fags and dykes not have the same rights as straights?

Try walking a mile in a gay person's shoe

Sure if you can find me a stiletto pump size 11d with a matching purse

you will understand why they have a parade

You, like many others, are missing the god damned point! I could care less about their parade....hell, have a "we're here, we're queer get used to it" float driving around every day of the year for all I care. What I don't want to see is a gay, transgendered, necrophiliac, bestiality or even a straight event in public where there's nudity or sex. Those activities should be kept to the confines of a public space.

What you're failing to recognize is that every time some queer dude with his balls in a hammock makes the news or they show a SW plying his/her trade the moral/religious right has a morality meltdown and starts demanding all sorts of crazy things.

When was the last time someone was beat up for being hetero?

Maybe not because (s)he is hetero but straights beat the crap out of each other for all sorts of other stupid reasons.

If you don't agree with any sexual orientation other than hetero, that's your business, but why knock others who are different than you?

Get off your high fucking horse. I'm not knocking anyone....incase you missed it before I could give a rats rectum of who anyone wants to live with or fuck with only two caveats (everyone is over 18 and everyone is there by their own choice) and other than that I really don't care. Howl at the moon while your getting fucked up the ass by a chick with a dildo who's giving you a reach around.....just don't do it in a spot where the MAJORITY has to see it.

ya they were persecuted, discriminated against, scorned, etc. yet still fought for their right to do this or that. pls try to deal with it.

Good for them, they fought for what was there's and I don't take issue with that. Now they're EQUAL, nothing more nothing less.

DESERVE A LITTLE SPECIAL TREATMENT IN THE PRESENT

Fuck that noise in a big hot hurry! That logic is the fundamental problem with the "oh woe is me" society that is causing many of our problems. Special interest groups demand to be treated equal but then come up with the attitude because of the sins of the past they should be given something special now. OK, if thats the case because of reverse discrimination I'll be expecting my compensation for being a hetero anglo saxon male sometime about NOW!.

if a boy or girl gets abused by someone, s/he deserves a little extra attention from someone

WHAT the fuck are you yammering about?



And as closing, I agree with everything GBM said. I feel so dirty now

 

[OTBn]

You, like many others, are missing the god damned point! I could care less about their parade....hell, have a "we're here, we're queer get used to it" float driving around every day of the year for all I care. What I don't want to see is a gay, transgendered, necrophiliac, bestiality or even a straight event in public where there's nudity or sex. Those activities should be kept to the confines of a public space.

What you're failing to recognize is that every time some queer dude with his balls in a hammock makes the news or they show a SW plying his/her trade the moral/religious right has a morality meltdown and starts demanding all sorts of crazy things.

I’ve seen several Pride parades and have yet to see any public sex. You will see an occasional bare breast - surely you don’t include exposed breasts in your tirade. Asses hanging out? Yup, you’ll probably see some of that – but nothing you might not see across the street over at the beach.

Oh wait, might there be some of that there simulated sex? My gawd – the simulation, the simulation! Yup, one or two floats might be simulating

The “extremes” are not the “norm” within the parade. Perhaps your ultra-conservative take on the parade is closer to the “religious right morality meltdown” than you recognize.

 

[Miss Laura Lea]

*sigh*..... Well, I'm gonna have fun at an event I support 100% whole heartedly! YAY TRANS LES GAY BI PAN STRAIGHT 2 SPIRITED and others who don't fit into any of that!
A lot of it is humor dudes, lots of people make asses of themselves every day for the sake of humor and its funny as hell. Old dude in a sling w/ stickys all over him knows that too
Uncalled for to group beastiality and necrophilia in the same group tho.. and if you notice, gravitas, you added 'or EVEN a straight event'.. totally separating straight stuff from the other stuff wether that was your intention or not I don't know, Its just what i see in your text thats all. I do see your point and respect it tho.
All sexualities are addressed in the parade, as well as human rights/gay marriage/disability rights/political standpoints -Thanks Siksay-/social issues are directly addressed and supported as well Trans awareness too (probably the least progressed of them all.. that doesn't sound like proper english but oh well) Maybe there should be some more straight examples shedding some light on the acceptance of their POV as non-judgemental beings as well... That'd be cool!
Its much fun, good laughs, great entertainment, if you are curious show up and bring a lawn chair.
There is a YUMMY breakfast in the morning as well Terry Wallace memorial breakfast at Bute and Davie 9am by donation
People Rejoicing in Divercity Everywhere

*Walks away and puts on her rainbow belt*

 

[curvy_nympho]

I find it odd...

...that people who are part of an escort review board can be so judgemental.

Gravitas, I would have no problem finding you those pumps if you like!

The Pride Parade is about sexual orientation not to be confused with sexuality or sex in general. As in any "group" there will always be extreme people and there will be the majority who are there to celebrate acceptance and diversity.

The "extreme" people in the parade always make the news because it's more exciting journalism.

That's where freedom of choice comes in. You don't have to go to the parade nor do you have to watch it on the news. But, why not let people celebrate without bashing them? Thats' all I was trying to state in my previous post.

As far as giving extra privileges to white anglo hetero males - that's a whole topic I would prefer not to get into!


Bella

 

[sirlickheralot]

Uncalled for to group beastiality and necrophilia in the same group tho

Conservatives, Nazis, white supremists, sociopathic hate-mongers, etc. like to associate homosexuality with beastiality, necrophilia, pedophilia because they hope that the revulsion most people will naturally feel toward beastiality, necrophilia, pedophilia will be transfered to homosexuality.

I also love how people claim to not be homophobic but make sure to frequently use derogatory terms like fag and dyke to describe homosexuals. Kind of like saying I'm not racist, I just don't think those niggers should get any special treatment with affirmative action.

 

[MissMonique_vrz]

i don't get

what the big freakin debate is for.

You don't like it for whatever reason?.. that's fine, Stay home and don't watch it. It's not about you, it's not against you so get over it.

I can't wait to check out the Vancouver pride parade and all the fun.. I think it's somewhat smaller than what I'm used to seing in Montreal, where it turns out to be an amazing weekend when everyone (straight as much as gay) gets out to check out the many outdoor shows and all night parties. You can count on seeing smiling and happy ppl everywhere.. and hot hot boys everywhere! could be interesting to see the same in Vancouver.

 

[aznboi9]

Just a note to say that I went to my first Gay Pride Parade today. I thought it was fun. A gay old time was had, if you will. And I think a guy tried to pick me up as well.

The parade itself was fun. After awhile, it got to be a lot variations of a common theme: guys in small trunks with better builds than I'll ever have dancing to techno music; but I still enjoyed it none the less. I didn't see anything that I would have considered overly offensive. There were some bare breasts and guys in very small thongs; but no genitalia was flashed that I could see...except for the drunk guys next to me that were taking pics of each other.

All in all, I enjoyed myself, it was something to see, and I might even go again next year.

 

[shedevil]

I did catch a bit of the parade on my wanderings yesterday.

Very cool.

I took a pic for my friends back in Winnipeg. What a huge party. I was in San Fransisco earlier in the year, and it was almost the same.

Vancouver is beautiful, and so are ALL the people in it. Even the drag queens.

SD