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Pooning 101 - Guide for Newbies v2.0

CGPlz

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This is my second version of my pooning guide. As I have stated previously, I sometimes get asked by newbie pooners for some advice. I do not know why I get asked, but it could be because I mainly review the younger SP`s as that’s what I am more into. I post this publically so that it can be used as a reference for everyone.

There have been a few concerns as to me making people a little too paranoid, and whatnot so hopefully this revision makes it a little more comfortable. As well I have to state that you do not have to do any of these things which I suggest. These are the things that I do myself, and would like to share my thoughts/experiences.

1. Vaccinations – Before you start partaking in this hobby, even though you are using a condom it doesn’t mean you are invulnerable to everything out there. It is important for you and your future partners that you take preventative measures before you start seeing SP’s. Especially if you partake/perform unprotected oral sex you risk transmitting/receiving Chlamydia, HPV, gonorrhea, herpes, and hepatitis. Even if you don’t do oral sex, you could accidentally transmit/injest saliva without knowing. Walk into any drop in clinic or see any family doctor and ask to get your Hepatitis A (free) and B (~$30) shots. I believe While you are at it, you might as well get your Tetanus (free) shot as well. If you are younger than 30, and have $450 to spare, I highly recommend that you talk to your doctor about getting the HPV immunization, Gardasil, shots (3 shots, 3 months apart, $150 each). For those of you who want to know more, go visit http://hpvinfo.ca/hpvinfo/home.aspx

2. Finding the SP for you – After you browse through all the listings/advertisements (CL/websites/papers) do you research by using review sites such as perb and look for reviews. The best way to search for the SP in question would be to search for their name or last 4 digits of their phone number. If you do not find anything, I recommend searching CL for their previous ads by doing the same search (name/tele#) and see what other ads have been posted by the same person. If you notice a discrepancy with the pictures or stats, then I highly recommend you look for another SP. If you are unable to find any info on this SP other than the ad itself then I recommend you ask in the 411 sections if anyone has seen the SP. If this is your first poon, then I high recommend against TOFTT. You will have a much better experience if you see someone with good reviews.

3. Before the appointment – This is something that I myself do, but do not feel it is all that necessary unless you really value your privacy as much as me. In the past I have made a few calls to some listings only realizing that the ads were some kind of prank/joke having the person who answered the phone threaten to report my # to the cops or posting it on the internet as some kind of sick pervert. Rogers has a $100/year pay as you go plan, and you can buy a used activated SIM card on CL for like $10-15. Since I didn’t want to swap sim cards all day I picked up a cheap cell phone ($30) and it is now designated as my pooning/backup-car phone. Considering how much I spend every month on SP’s this $140 cost is almost negligible for me.

4. After you arranged the appointment – Again, this is something that is not necessary as your probably safe 99% of the time your with an SP. The likelihood of an SP trying to steal from you is also very rare. However, I am a very cautious person as I always think/plan ahead before doing anything. Before leaving the house I only bring my drivers license, the negotiated price + tipping money (40) + food/gas money (40). Once I arrive to the incall location, I leave my DL and gas/food money in the glove compartment. Lately there has been a string of guys with guns/knives showing up at micro’s and even stories of people robbing indy SP’s. Unfortunately there have been pooners caught in the crossfire having their wallets stolen in the process. Rather than having to worry about losing anything important, all I bring with me is just my pooning phone and money.

5. The meeting - First and foremost, always be respectful with any SP you meet. If the picture/stats are not accurate then I recommend that you explain the situation and just walk away. Of course if the SP is hotter than the picture then who wouldn’t stay? For a lot of micros they do a lot of B&S’ing, such that the girl in the ad is actually there but they give you someone else when she’s busy. The act of just walking away usually results in them telling you the truth. I have been in the situation once, and they told me that if I just wait 15 mins the real girl I wanted to see would be available. Make sure you take a shower before any meeting. First impressions goes a long way in terms of what kind of service you will be getting. As well, if the SP offers you a shower, take it. Even though you just took one, it gives them peace of mind, and as a result better service!

6. Payment – Depending on the SP there are different ways this is handled. I have been told that majority of the SP’s prefer to handle the donations before the deed. To prevent any awkwardness, after you walk in and you like what you see you can pay up front. I’m sure many of you wonder how much tip you should give. Tipping is a rather tricky subject as it depends on who you ask. Some pooners have stated that they do not tip, as being a repeat customer is better than tipping. Others have stressed that they tip depending on services given during the session. Personally I would never tip without knowing what kind of service I am getting with a first encounter when paying up front. However on my second encounter I will usually tip more generously to cover the first encounter.

7. Sharing – It is IMPORTANT that you share your experience with SP’s. All you have to do is either start a new thread or reply to and old thread about that SP. This allows us to self-govern our own set of standards. As a benefit, most of the active reviewers talk privately amongst each other trading gems (favorite SPs).

8. Testing – Even though you are using a condom it does not mean you are 100% safe from every std/sti out there. It is important for you and everyone else’s health that you get tested regularly. Personally I get tested every 2 months. To get tested it is very private, painless, simple and free. Just call http://www.bccdc.org/ and book an appointment for HIV/STI testing. You can give them a fake name. When you arrive they will ask you to fill out a card, and on this card you can provide fake information as they do not require any ID to verify any of this. To obtain your results you just need to remember the name and birthday you used on that card by calling in 7 days later. Most STI/STD’s if treated early can be easily taken care of, so I must insist that you go whenever you can.

If you have anything ideas, thoughts or concerns that you think I should add to this guide, please let me know as I will probably be updating this. I apologize in advance if anything I stated scares/offends you, as this hobby is not something you should be taking lightly.

PS. for those of you wondernig about the robberies and too lazy to do a search, here is one of the recent threads.
https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=101491
 
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Miss*Bijou

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I think that's really great info/advice you have put together. ;)

I really like the fact that you included quite a bit of the 'not-so-fun' part of nakkid adventures; the health aspect, more specifically ways to make sure you are and remain healthy.


My suggestion would be to take it even one step further, and encourage ppl to not only take your advice into consideration, but to actually spend some time themselves, reading through the Health Forum (or the website listed by the Health Nurse) to really educate themselves about the risks and specifics of any of the services they are interested in, and have all the relevant information to decide on own tolerance level. When I first started doing this work, I was fairly confident about already being aware of the important stuff, but I have realized that was not quite the case, and was surprised by quite a few things I either had no information about, or the information I did have, turned out to be not so accurate.

The reason I think this is an important point to add, is that whenever the topic of any sti is brought up for whatever reason, reading some of the comments always REALLY disturbs me, as there are always many who's comments make it obvious that they are anything but informed about really critical details that make a big difference and adds to everyone else's risk. I'm not sure whether or not these people are aware of this, but I've made this comment more than once on threads where it's been obvious that a frightening amount of people simply didn't have a clue, but my comments mostly seem to fall on deaf ear.. so I'm not sure if it's from lack of caring or just being oblivious, but maybe if it is suggested in the very beginning, newbies might be more inclined to do it.. one would hope anyway.


Another (small) detail you may want to add, is that 3 visits/shots are required in the case of Hepatitis vaccination. And something that might be worth noting is that I did not pay anything for this, it was done for free at the W12th ave clinic in Vancouver.


Anyway... that's just my 2 cents. :)
 

HB40

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Great post CGPlz :)

Excellent advice for newbies and I'm sure even some of us old guys can benefit from your guide.

I only started using perb as a resource last year. The 20 years prior to that my best resource was the girls themselves. Once I found a girl who I liked I would become a regular. These girls would help me with recommendations, they knew what I like and always helped me find new girls who were my type or provided exceptional service. My single most important variable in ensuring pleasurable sessions has been mutual respect. I avoid the uncomfortableness of negotiations, demands or expectations beyond their restrictions. I have instantly hit it off with many SP's but it has been equally common to require several visits before a chemistry is developed.

Even now, I admit I use perb more to appeal to the ladies than to glean information to aid my decisions. Reviews are helpful but I'm different than anybody else so I don't expect to get the same session as another guy. I rely on my own charm and personality, ultimately it is the only thing I can control and has served me well.
 

CGPlz

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I'm glad someone brought up the health issues. Here are some of the health related questions which I had wondered about in the past. Hopefully this will be useful for some. This is not meant to scare anyone, but just some information I have compiled since I started pooning. I could go on with forever with this, but I have a feeling I’d probably bore people to do death. LOL. Maybe I should have a health guide to pooning haha.. This is not intended to deter anyone from pooning, I am just trying to provide as much insight as possible for if things go wrong and the importance of getting tested.

Health Related Facts:
1. The condom breaks during the session, are you screwed? I know this is something that will race through any pooner/sp mind if a condom malfunctions. The most serious of all the std/sti’s out there would be HIV, and is probably the first thing that will come to mind in this situation. This is very serious as you have to assume the worse for your own sake. There is no need to panic as the damage has already been done and there is nothing you can do to undo what has happened. To put your mind at ease I have compiled some statistics which will hopefully reduce your stress levels. The risk of unprotected vaginal sex for women is much greater than men (studies show that they have double the risk) due to the fact that there is a lot more exposed surface area to risk infection than vice versa. So the odds of a women getting infected is 0.1% (1 in 1,000, some studies say 1 in 100,000 but lets just take the lesser to be on the safe side). For men who are circumcised they are 60% less likely to get infected than non-circumcised men. However the odds increase if the women has vaginal bleeding (period, etc). So assuming that the odds for men is about equivalent to women then this malfunction poses a 0.1% risk if you are non-circumcised and 0.04% if you are. This does not mean you can turn a blinds eye on this event, as odds are just odds. Even if the odds are 0.0001% you could be that 1 person in a million. Just look at the odds of winning the 649, it is about 1 in 14 million, yet there are multiple winners all the time. So here comes the hardest part of all this… the waiting period. I know you want to get tested right away and be done with it, but unfortunately you will not get any conclusive results. After 9 weeks since the incident there is a 90% chance that if you did get infected it will be detected. At 3 months there is a 97% chance of detection, and pretty much 99% at 6 months. As I have stated earlier, getting tested and checked out is private, painless, and free. http://www.bccdc.org/

2. BBBJ’s are the devil! I’m pretty sure that everyone agrees that BBBJ feels so much better than CBJ’s. However with most things in life nothing is without risks. I have spoke to a few SP’s who initially didn’t do BBBJ’s but due to high demand for that service they are not given a choice if they want to keep the business. It is unfortunate, and I have to admit that I myself have let an SP perform this on me once. Sometimes even the most careful person lets his/her guard down for a chance to taste that fine wine. There are like 7-8 common STD’s transmitted through the act of unprotected oral sex. You can read more about it here. http://sexuality.about.com/od/saferse1/a/safer_oral_sex.htm

Useful Links and References:
Condom Effectiveness - http://www.avert.org/condoms.htm (less than 2 condoms break out of every 100)
Risks for an HIV infection with unsafe sex - http://aids.about.com/od/hivaidsstats/f/infectionrisk.htm (covers anal (top/bottom) and vaginal (men/women))
Deciding if/when to be tested - http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/testing/resources/qa/be_tested.htm (97% accuracy after 3 months of possible exposure to hiv)
 

Holly Taylor

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I have spoke to a few SP’s who initially didn’t do BBBJ’s but due to high demand for that service they are not given a choice if they want to keep the business.
If ladies are having trouble getting enough clients, I would recommend working on a new marketing strategy, not changing their services.

In terms of marketing, there are always ways to improve: Get better photos, get a better website, put out more advertising, try different advertising strategies, etc.
 

CGPlz

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If ladies are having trouble getting enough clients, I would recommend working on a new marketing strategy, not changing their services.

In terms of marketing, there are always ways to improve: Get better photos, get a better website, put out more advertising, try different advertising strategies, etc.
unfortunately some of these girls barely know any english, and the only people they know are the people who brought them to this country for work. speaking of marketing, i must admit you have caught my attention with yours. one thing though, i've always wondered what you look like from behind. =) you should add some pics to your website so then i wouldnt have to worry when booking an appointment! haha.. i have to admit, i'm somewhat of an ass man... =P
 

Thatotherguy

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speaking of marketing, i must admit you have caught my attention with yours. one thing though, i've always wondered what you look like from behind. =) you should add some pics to your website so then i wouldnt have to worry when booking an appointment! haha.. i have to admit, i'm somewhat of an ass man... =P
I can attest that she does indeed look fantastic from behind. At the same time, I will second your request for a few rear pics... :D
 
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