Pooner's strike
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wackyboy said:
Wackyboy, no one making $10 after tax is seeing SPs. Working 1/2 week for an hour with an SP? Not a reality. Doubt there is anyone making $30 seeing SPs as given the current demand price in Vancouver, do you really think people at that level of income are spending as much on a SP as a week on groceries? Guess again. I would find it hard to spend on something like pooning with any more % of my take home than CDs, latest techno geek toy, sport outing, movies etc. - in other words, money that is here nor there in scheme of life. If it ever became a serious budgeting issue, then time to get professional help as priorities would be severely whacked.
Fact remains while there is a demand for SPs to raise their rates, the supply will pick up the slack and raise their rates. Not sure where the point is that takes most men out of demand side in terms of staying in the game but based upon some of these sort of threads, that level seems to be getting close.
Then again, I know a "sex addict" who makes a very good wage, and easily spends almost all of it on SPs, AMPs, lap dances and Viagra. To the point where he has to borrow money back from the very same women to feed his cat. He blew a large RRSP to satisfy his cravings. His income could easily keep him an a nice well-furnished condo. Instead, he lives in a rat infested apartment, and is barely able to make the minimum payments on his maxed out credit cards. So, when the little head takes control of the big head, common sense is easily pushed aside, and it matters little if the poor sap makes $10/hour at a McJob or $200K/year in a downtown glass tower...
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Thanks LG
LonelyGhost said:
the most i ever paid to see an sp was to Gina Lee who ended up under-charging and over-servicing me ... no complaints there.
can list an endless stream of others who charged the 'going rate' and never got anything going ... lots of complaints there.
and its not about price, its about service -- or, more specifically, about attitude.
the great thing about Gina wasn't just the fantastic sex, but that for the time i was with her she treated me like i was the only guy she ever wanted to be with ... and that's a great attitude! [/QUOTE
I just took the time to read this thread, the topic that never ends, LOL Jodi.
Silkrose has pointed out the always overlooked SP overhead. It isn't a turn key business. The overhead is high as she lists. It is a high stress industry, if the rates are lowered you aren't going to get as much selection. Why would women stay in an industry that has huge social taboos, health & safety risks & more, just to make as much as a normal job??
There seems to be alot of advertised specials right now. What is that telling us......
Women all over the country & the USA are commenting on the change in the industry, not for the better. I think its long overdue for a SP union!!!! A collective resource to cover all the issues that are not being dealt with properly:social stigma, legalization, taxes, medical, safety, retirement, etc....
Including myself, there are alot of established escorts taking on other jobs/school due to recent biz trends.
There was recently an ISO new providers in Victoria. I haven't seen too many new independent ladies since I started 3 years ago. Why aren't more women getting into the biz?? The rates have not changed much in 15 years - Victoria anyway.
Lets work towards keeping everyone happy here, as LG says, its not about price, its about the attitude on both sides of the fence.
Re: Thanks LG
Fact is some ladies make more from this than they deserve and some make far less. Some guys spend more than they should and some spend much less and get more. Supply and demand.
The trend to micros in Vancouver seems to be driven as much by demand for higher mileage at lower prices than other indy options. Perhaps this is on of the changes Gina Lee is noting is happening. No one is planning it, it happens due to market forces plain and simple.
Be careful what you wish for. Of the countries that I have some experience with that have such situations (e.g. Denmark, Holland and Germany), the prices relative to a man's wage is way lower than Vancouver and the conditions for the ladies worse in terms of what they actually take home.Gina Lee said:
Fact is some ladies make more from this than they deserve and some make far less. Some guys spend more than they should and some spend much less and get more. Supply and demand.
The trend to micros in Vancouver seems to be driven as much by demand for higher mileage at lower prices than other indy options. Perhaps this is on of the changes Gina Lee is noting is happening. No one is planning it, it happens due to market forces plain and simple.
What I'm saying is, who has a $30 an job in Vancouver? The only jobs I see advertised in the paper are $10 an hour, and you need several years of experience in an office setting.
I know this is off topic. That's why I'm going to school to better myself. Technical writing seems to the key, but still that pays $20 an hour.
WB
I know this is off topic. That's why I'm going to school to better myself. Technical writing seems to the key, but still that pays $20 an hour.
WB
Good for you WB...do what you like to do as that is more important than what you make. My only point is people making even $30 an hour are not likely to be doing much pooning at prices being what they are. Always exceptions (someone pointed out a guy above who dipped into RSP to poon...foikin sad that is) but in general, you need disposible income galore to have a hobby that is after tax more than a $100 an hour.wackyboy said:
P.S. You would be surprised how many make not only more than $30 per hour but more than $100 per hour. It is far from uncommon in this town WB and going back to school is a big part of you getting there too. Best of luck!
Re: Re: Re: Thanks LG
Sorry if I implied you are not worth what you charge. I have not seen you and have no reason or grounds to imply one way or another that you are not worth it. Apology accepted?
No offence taken whatsoever. Your response was excellent and thought provoking. I am not saying I am the judge at all though, I am saying marketplace is. I agree, market will get rid of terrible providers BUT market cannot do it as easily if such manipulate review boards (topic of another thread).lebagyptian said:I'm sorry gunto but who makes you the judge to proclaim that some girls make more than they deserve? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I may be a goddess to some but worthless to others. Some may pay $1000/hr for me or as little as $100/hr. Understand what I am trying to explain? How can you put the pricing on what to charge? SPs are given the right to charge whatever they want. If they are terrible service providers then their journey will end immediately. If they are decent then they will reach their destination.
Please do not take this the wrong way and get the idea that I am attacking you. I like interacting and discussing with others
Sorry if I implied you are not worth what you charge. I have not seen you and have no reason or grounds to imply one way or another that you are not worth it. Apology accepted?
You are right lebagyptian, SP's should charge whatever they want.
It's just unfortunate that some girls do some false advertising (wrong pictures ) then the girl shows up and she is not what was expected. Then the girl would freak if you did not pay them. They qouted $$ and then expect $$$$$ for FS after they show up.
Many of us have experienced this and are leary but you are right you should charge what you want if you are honest up front.
SP's have no gaurantee's like any other service or product... so we have to protect ourselves by being cautious...
It's just unfortunate that some girls do some false advertising (wrong pictures ) then the girl shows up and she is not what was expected. Then the girl would freak if you did not pay them. They qouted $$ and then expect $$$$$ for FS after they show up.
Many of us have experienced this and are leary but you are right you should charge what you want if you are honest up front.
SP's have no gaurantee's like any other service or product... so we have to protect ourselves by being cautious...
Gee, remember this?
About a year ago, we were discussing this very same topic.
Wage & Price Controls?
It is a bit broken up by deletions and retirements, but the subject still holds. Must be a pre-Christmas topic, when pooners must make a choice between giving and giving.
Bah, Humbug!
About a year ago, we were discussing this very same topic.
Wage & Price Controls?
It is a bit broken up by deletions and retirements, but the subject still holds. Must be a pre-Christmas topic, when pooners must make a choice between giving and giving.
Bah, Humbug!
Re: Re: Re: Thanks LG
Yes, in a number of cities. Frankfurt for one. They would be wildly popular in Vancouver. They are regulated in terms of health and safety and if you are willing to walk a few flights of stairs, you can find 9's and 10's.
I wouldn't be surprised to see this tried and succeed in Vancovuer as there seems to be a more liberal approach on the subject growing. When it does, not sure what it will do for the supply and demand of the biz but can be sure that if the prices are like they are in Germany, you won't see any more threads complaining about prices.
Penhold.Penhold said:Guntno:
Any experience with FKK?
Now THAT's what we need in Canada!
Yes, in a number of cities. Frankfurt for one. They would be wildly popular in Vancouver. They are regulated in terms of health and safety and if you are willing to walk a few flights of stairs, you can find 9's and 10's.
I wouldn't be surprised to see this tried and succeed in Vancovuer as there seems to be a more liberal approach on the subject growing. When it does, not sure what it will do for the supply and demand of the biz but can be sure that if the prices are like they are in Germany, you won't see any more threads complaining about prices.
Down with the Liberals and Gordon Campbell!!
Ok, for the record. I don't see expensive sp's not because I can't afford them, but because I know many sp's that charge $140- & 180 provide the exact same service as the ones that are charging $280 and above. And most of them are just as good looking.
Oh and the sp's were damn good bargains in CUBA. Got to love CASTRO!!
Anyways,
Damn liberals have legislated me back to work!!!
I would like to end my discussion, and get off the picket lines and go visit my $100 for 45 minutes of bbj, dfk, gfe, ass licking sp that offers top notch service. Oh and she's hot!!!
Vote NDP this May!!!! Get rid of the government that has increased the number of poor, destroyed education, and health care. Lied about BC RAIL!! The list goes on.
Ok, for the record. I don't see expensive sp's not because I can't afford them, but because I know many sp's that charge $140- & 180 provide the exact same service as the ones that are charging $280 and above. And most of them are just as good looking.
Oh and the sp's were damn good bargains in CUBA. Got to love CASTRO!!
Anyways,
Damn liberals have legislated me back to work!!!
I would like to end my discussion, and get off the picket lines and go visit my $100 for 45 minutes of bbj, dfk, gfe, ass licking sp that offers top notch service. Oh and she's hot!!!
Vote NDP this May!!!! Get rid of the government that has increased the number of poor, destroyed education, and health care. Lied about BC RAIL!! The list goes on.
