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Pooner's strike

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Hey, I wouldn't pay half of what most of these sp's are charging, yet remain as busy as I want to. At the same time, I wouldn't demand anyone lower their prices to accomodate me either. There are inexpensive sp's and over priced sp's. Their services are worth whatever people are willing to pay. If every pooner in the world decided to agree to only pay a green, then sp's would have the choice of relenting or finding a new way to make their money. Sounds good right? Sure, except you can expect to see a drop in about 90 percent of choice in sp's out there. If these girls want to charge 2 or 3 browns, that is their choice. If they get a shit load of business, more power to them I say. Make what you can while you can. If you can't afford 'em or just couldn't justify the service for the money, cool, find someone who'll do it for you. In the same token, it gets kind of tired when an sp whines constantly about not getting enough business. Almost as much as pooners who do the same about the prices sp's are requesting. We all have a choice people... live and let live! Happy pooning/providing!
 

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Hello/Goodbye said:
Hi,
In Victoria the price is 160 the hour and as a phone lady I hear all the time that that too hight and can you do a lower price????
So I ask them what do you want to pay???
I get 100 all the way down to 20 for the hour....
So the question is how low do you go??????
Sound so degrading! If those jerks can find someone for 20 ,what for to call you the first place!Waste of time!
 

wackyboy

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BabyBelle said:
Again I ask, how much do you figure is too much?
Apples and Oranges time: Cindy Spice(who was voted the #1 courtisan in Las Vegas) charges $700 US for 2 hours, and she is a knockout and really really does all she can to take charge and make a man feel like a king.

Compare that to an average wet- behind- the- ears girl-next-door type in Vancouver, who charges $250. That's a little less, but the service is not quite up to par.


On the other hand lap dances at #5 go for $50 a song, so that = $600+ an hour, so i am as flummoxed as you are
:confused:

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Lurker 123

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silkrose said:
The going rate in SK is $200-250 for an hour.

Seriously though, do you guys have any idea of the cost of doing business for SP's?

Newspaper ads (most publications charge their highest per line ad rates for the escort column because they know they can get it), online advertising rates (if applicable), protection, contraception, massage oil, lubricant, toys, clothing, lingerie, stockings, shoes, fetishware, makeup, transportation, rent for incall space or hotel rooms (if they can't work out of their homes), agency fees for non-independents, cell phones and/or pagers so they can be reached, etc.

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This is a very valid point here. A few weeks back I talked to a $$$ hourly rate sp. Her overhead expense is so much that she cannot afford to charge less. For example just her 1st class in-call location rent is $2000 per month, strata fees, transportation, her own living quarter, facial ,fitness training and etc. Many of her clients demand she looks her best, so she really has to spend lots of money monthly to keep her apparent up.

Of course she can let go with her apparents ,her business will go too. According to her calculation,she has to make at least $4ooo to $5000 a month before she can eat!
:rolleyes:
 

williewheeler

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How 'bout we send this to binding arbitration. The arbitrator will hear submissions from the pooners concerning how much of their hard-earned pay they must spend and from the SPs concerning their expenses. He/she will then set a sliding scale of price according to service provided (e.g. the SP gets more for a BBBJ than a CBJ and so on). This price table will go into effect for a period of two years. That way we can stop wasting bandwidth about a subject that while repeatedly brought up, resolves nothing. The strikers can come in from the cold. And everyone will know just what to expect for the amount of money they are willing to spend....
 

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Am I the only person who has said no to an SP because I though thier prices were out of the ballpark? Seems every time this happens they take an about face and ask me what I think is fair. If they think my prices are fair we are good to go. If they begrudgingly say 'well. . . yes' I still send them on they're way cause now they are here with a bad attitude. I am all for a girl having game, but fair and retarded are two different things.

I was out in the bar one night after breaking up with my ex with one of my SP cohorts and she sees I am feeling sorry for myself now that my pussy is gone- she set it in perspective. She tells me, "look at all those girls out there, every last one of those pu55y's wants a d1ck!" Well, maybe not my johnson, but it changed my point of view. Please don't flame me for being a dog. . .
 

Jodie

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rockhard91 said:
I think some of the prices of sp's are getting ridiculous. I am looking to form a pooner's union. We need to go on strike, this will reduce the number of pooners in the marketplace, and hopefully bring down prices.

This is the song that never ends
It just goes on and on my friends
Some people started singing it not knowing what it was
And they'll continue singing it forever just because

This is the song that never ends...
 

luckydog71

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Jodie, you are right I have heard this song before and they are singing out of tune.

Before anyone complains that the fees are too high you need to ask yourself;

Self, how much would I charge to entertain Bubba for an hour? He wants a BFE and you need to have a great attitude while he is there.

When you decide what the amount is (and everyone has their price) then you can complain about a fee that is higher than what you would charge for the same job.

My price would be far north of $100,000. It does not mean I would pay that much, it means I should not complain about anyone else who also wants to charge that much.
 

Jodie

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luckydog71 said:
Self, how much would I charge to entertain Bubba for an hour? He wants a BFE and you need to have a great attitude while he is there.
Too funny!! :D
 

dirk_dog

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Consider an average rate of $200-$300.

As a pooner, theres many things to consider. Two main ones are:
-How much money do you make?
-How of often do you see escorts?


-How much money do you make?
If you are a successful profesional or business owner then $250 may not be a significant amount of money. If you are an average working joe then $250 is a lot of money. Lets say you make $20 an hour. You have to work about a day and a half to two days to get $250 cash in your pocket after taxes and deductions. Thats a lot of hard earned money to spend on a 1 hour session with an escort.

-How of often do you see escorts?
If you see escorts infrequently then $250 becomes a less significant amount. Spending $250 once a month for a session with woman you otherwise couldnt have sex with could be money well spent. You could compare it to a day at the spa, some expensive wine, cuban cigars, or some other indulgence for yourself. $250 once a month is about $3000. Not too bad - maybe a nice TV for that amount of money.
On the other hand, if you start seeing escorts more frequently the $250 an hour becomes more significant. Once a week makes it $1000 a month. That could be rent/mortgage payment, a car payment, or even a nice mini-vacation.


This isnt an arguement that prices are too high or too low. Its just trying to put things into context to better understand the pooners point of view.
 

yogi

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For my professional services, if someone wants to pay me far less than my going rate, I simply reply:
"What if you told all the employees in your company that effective today they are all taking a 35% pay cut. How demoralized would they be? Do you think you'd see a marked reduction in quality & quantity of their work?"
'nuff said.
 

drromance

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I am sure we would have some "retired" politican come forth and agree to be the chief negeotiator for all us perbites, ans after a year would resign due to being caught with his dick in the cookie jar.

Goofiest idea I have heard of for years....lol.
 

massageseeker

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supply and demand seems take over..

wait for olympics.. and more conferences here.. with people with expense accounts.. sure they cant always right off SP but events leading up to night where we spend at No.5 are almost always covered...

I do think rates should be 200 max maybe 250 for specials.. but u can still find 180 girls that are very good...

But if someone charges 3 bills and they get clientel even when ome boycott ..... theres little pooners can do
 

massageseeker

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I think you need to do more research and scouting techiques.. see girls before they raise..

ie Ingrid was very inexpensive when she started only a year ago... Exotique.. Pamela(Metro) Beyonca.. was at 180 and jumped to 400 .....
 

rockhard91

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Interesting Discussion

Okay, I am a socialist. I just came back from Cuba and loved their system of government. I still have to say some sp prices are ridiculous.

I am officially striking anybody that charges over $250. Will my fellow union brothers join me in bringing down SP prices to reasonable levels.
 

Johnsam

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Re: Interesting Discussion

rockhard91 said:
Okay, I am a socialist. I just came back from Cuba and loved their system of government ....
Bet you loved more than that:D

BTW the same old arguments don't make for an interesting discussion.
 

Maury Beniowski

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Either an overdose of coffee or sugar got to rockhard91 while in Fidel's brothels...

williewheeler said:
How 'bout we send this to binding arbitration?
I'm kinda sorry I missed this thread, but as I read it initially, my reaction was like WW's. In other words, you can't help but let sarcasm creep in with buffonish concepts like this.

Therefore, expanding WW's idea, we would also have to define what "binding" arbitration means, and how this could be verified. Also, what would we do about scabs (the people kind) that cross picket lines - btw, those picket lines would have to be manned by balaclava'ed picketers, for fear they would be recognized on News Hour, and believe me, the media would have a freeding frenzy on this one - and what would we do about the beligerent non-compliant ones in those bimmers, and benzies? Hmmm...

What else? Ah yes, the Union leadership... We'd need some fat cat executives to validate the Union's raison d'etre, making $150K plus, and of course Union dues would surely have to be collected at source, from the pooner's wages; these would be detailed on his T4's for annual Tax filings. Gee, this sounds like a shift from the SPs purse to National Revenue already... Paying for the Union dues, would take a chunk of cash from the already strained pooner's budget, thereby reducing the frequency of his visits to his favourite SP.

Naturally, I could go on and on drawing parallels, but I think our friend realizes the ridiculous nature of his pathetic argument. Seems to me he is short of cash, and wants to penalize SPs, rather than coming up with the motivation to get a better or second job to fulfill his weekly fantasy. Methinks his big head is working overtime with no pay, depriving his little head with no play...
 
personally I think a strike is stupid, SP'sare not going to lower their price. Well maybe some will but i think the ones worth while will just start traveling ( there so many places Sp's can get higher rates then here in Van). so your stirke would simply limit the sp's who will be availbe.
also thought that if you want a decent sp at a Decent price you should lower your expectations a decent Sp.
 
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