plastic surgery vs. lifting weights

[Keithks]

Which is the better method to get chicks?

I think plastic surgery has greater potential. Women are wired to only breed with males possessing the best genes, while keeping their legs closed for guys who aren't so blessed, and there's no better indicator of superior genes than an attractive face. I think if an average guy were to go to the right plastic surgeon and was willing to spend a lot of money, he could become a chick magnet overnight (or however long it takes to heal). The risk is probably small if you're smart about it and do your research.

Lifting weights and getting buff certainly helps, but it's nowhere near as effective as being good looking from the neck up. I've known plenty of beefcakes who couldn't get a date, yet virtually every pretty boy I've known had no problem.

 

[Canaan]

The real key, ime? Confidence.

 

[Rotcod]

Which is the better method to get chicks?

I think plastic surgery has greater potential. Women are wired to only breed with males possessing the best genes, while keeping their legs closed for guys who aren't so blessed, and there's no better indicator of superior genes than an attractive face. I think if an average guy were to go to the right plastic surgeon and was willing to spend a lot of money, he could become a chick magnet overnight (or however long it takes to heal). The risk is probably small if you're smart about it and do your research.

Lifting weights and getting buff certainly helps, but it's nowhere near as effective as being good looking from the neck up. I've known plenty of beefcakes who couldn't get a date, yet virtually every pretty boy I've known had no problem.

I also know of good looking model-type guys who can't get laid to save their life.

There is so much wrong with what you posted, I don't even know where to begin. First off, I am a firm believer in appreciating what God gave you and being fortunate that you can see/talk/hear/walk. Second, I am also a firm believer in leading an active lifestyle, whether you cycle, hike, run, swim, or fuck (hey, sex burns off a ton of calories too ). Not only does leading an active and healthy lifestyle do wonders for your mind (studies have proven exercise is the best cure of depression), but it can also increase your testosterone, which woman are by instinct attracted to.

Third, and correct me if I am wrong here ladies, but all women can smell desperation a mile away. Heck, I am a guy living almost 400 miles away and even I can smell your desperation like a case of bad B.O.

If you really want to pick up chicks then, by all means do so, but for pete's sake learn how to do it properly. Right now, your posts read like an average frustrated chump trying to learn the one magic phrase to get a girl into bed with you. Guess what, there isn't.

 

[bcneil]

Whats with all these creepy threads

 

[westcoast555]

what a load of crap

Which is the better method to get chicks?

I think plastic surgery has greater potential. Women are wired to only breed with males possessing the best genes, while keeping their legs closed for guys who aren't so blessed, and there's no better indicator of superior genes than an attractive face. I think if an average guy were to go to the right plastic surgeon and was willing to spend a lot of money, he could become a chick magnet overnight (or however long it takes to heal). The risk is probably small if you're smart about it and do your research.

Lifting weights and getting buff certainly helps, but it's nowhere near as effective as being good looking from the neck up. I've known plenty of beefcakes who couldn't get a date, yet virtually every pretty boy I've known had no problem.

Not being a jackass is the best approach. Having some style, some confidence and a few bucks helps too.

 

[mistressfreyja]

Be yourself.

I generally gravitate towards smart and down-to-earth.

Buff for me, is like a 'dumb-blonde' for you...eye candy that gets old REALLY quickly. There has to be substance, or it's going nowhere fast.

 

[Fullhouse]

Just go for the facial plastic surgery, Keithks, ----- I'm sure you'd become a chick magnet in no time.

Just make sure you find a world renowned, top surgeon.---I hear that Michael Jackson's plastic surgeon now has some spare time on his hands.------ And maybe you can take advantage of his 2 for 1 special.

Facial surgery and penis enlargement all for the same price.... (like the saying goes: "2 new heads are better than 1").

 

[Validator]

Neither would work - as said above, confidence, personality and challenge (eg not being so eager to get laid) is what attracts women. Yes physical appearance will play a role, but ur seeing plastic surgery or weight lifting as some magical killshot in the dating game. Ya maybe in highschool. But not the real world.

 

[letitrock]

I'd say weightlifting would be the lesser of two evils. Look around this city. Sometimes you see the ugliest guys with the most beautiful women.

I'm not trying to brag, but I think I'm a pretty good looking guy and I go to the gym regularly. I dont have women flocking to me

So there you go, neither will really help you

 

[CaraClementine]

A girls perspective...

I once fell for a man last year, who was very much outside of my type. It changed my tastes in men forever, actually.

He was older than what I was used to being attracted to. Although I wouldn't have called him chubby - he wasn't as athletic as what I used to prefer either... hair colour the opposite of what I normally like too. I also disliked his sense of style.

What attracted me? He was very much an alpha-male type. Although these types can be assholes.. not all of them are. He had different interests from my previous potential suitors, and had a much more grounded, mature personality. This both intrigued and drew me to him.

The more I got to know him... the more attractive he became. No - he was never hideous to begin with... but certainly would never have gone for him, if I hadn't have accidently had to have an interaction with him (no, it wasn't a sexual encounter).

Yes - in the end, it all went wrong.. and was only a 2 month fling - but thankfully I stopped being so superficial!

I would say work on your physical health (diet and exercise)... and personality - developing your interpersonal skills, before plastic surgery! lol

To add to what I have said... women - people in general enjoy those that take an active interest in them. Ask questions... take an interest in her

 

[Harmony-bc]

I have an ex or 2 or 3 that are not attractive. I remember a friend feeling the need to tell how ugly my boyfriend was a few years ago, My response was well good thing you don't have to fuck him then. He was sexy as hell, though. . I can appreciate looks in a magazine, but really could care less about them in a relationship. The things I look for are a fun personality, open mindedness, respect for the planet, love animals, confidence, healthy eater, humor, fit (you do not have to be buff). I would prefer him to be very liberal, and not be in any kind of organised religion, but have some kind of spirituality. and last but not least you must be able to stand up to me, because I have a strong personality and can be a bit egocentric, selfish, and thoughtless.

I've also had really attractive lovers and get so bored of them, if they don't have any of the above.

Every single one of my relationships started out friends. Some with no intentions of dating ever, just all of a sudden you realise that you should be together. Personality goes way further than looks.

Things I don't want at all. Stupidity, insecurity, lack of communication.

 

[sonoman]

your posts read like an average frustrated chump trying to learn the one magic phrase to get a girl into bed with you. Guess what, there isn't.

Possibly the best advice, IMO... unless Keithks is too immature to understand that.

As for looks, I see attractive women every day with not so attractive men. Most (mature) women grow out of that superficial looks-first phase by the time they're through college. Point: lacking any other qualities, looks alone won't get you anywhere.

 

[MrPeterNorth]

I think you should start doing some travelling. I did that and it opened up my eyes to a lot of other things around me. Spend a week in Montreal or Toronto and you'll know what I'm talking about. Then go to Europe.

It's funny - if I'm in any other city and I see an attractive woman with a not-so-stellar man I assume it's because he has a wicked personality. If I see the same thing in Vancouver it's because the guy has money.

In the meantime, keep yourself busy doing the things you love, and don't ever sacrifice that.

 

[Harmony-bc]

I think you should start doing some travelling. I did that and it opened up my eyes to a lot of other things around me. Spend a week in Montreal or Toronto and you'll know what I'm talking about. Then go to Europe.

It's funny - if I'm in any other city and I see an attractive woman with a not-so-stellar man I assume it's because he has a wicked personality. If I see the same thing in Vancouver it's because the guy has money.

In the meantime, keep yourself busy doing the things you love, and don't ever sacrifice that.

I have never dated for money in my life.

I think its important that my guy can pay his own way. I do not care about money. I just like to have fun.

 

[mpeg]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Strauss

The guy's book was very eye-opening. A lot of what he talks about really hinges on building confidence to talk to the opposite sex and not to take rejection as the end of the line. While it confirmed for me that his experiences were consistent to some that I've had in the past (maybe it was comforting knowing I was doing the right thing? , it may help you if you're finding yourself struggling to get that next date.


Oh, and specifically to the OP's first question ... plastic surgery is only as good as how well you take care of your body. If you don't keep yourself in check, all the $ you spend on it will go to waste

 

[hunsperger]

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I have never dated for money in my life.

what does this mean...

maybe you have never had the opportunity...

and keep in mind you sell your body for money...

get off your high horse darling...

 

[InnocentBoy]

Well if she was dating a guy for money then maybe she wouldn't have to sell her body?

 

[sonoman]

keep in mind you sell your body for money...

What in hell does this have to do with what she posted?? Hunsperger, you are an idiot.

 

[Harmony-bc]

what does this mean...

maybe you have never had the opportunity...

and keep in mind you sell your body for money...

get off your high horse darling...

I'm not on a horse. Do you know me? Believe me, I am a pretty woman. I've had lots of opportunity. I am interested in doing things my way. I would be ashamed of myself if the only reason I was with someone was because of how big his bank account is. He doesn't care about the world, or about where his meat that he is eating comes from, but he has a big bank account, wants to put me in diamonds and furs, that I won't wear because I do not wear animals, poor little animal must be cold without his coat. I'd rather wear my moon stone ring that my mother gave me. Moon stones are very pretty and they increase your nurturing loving energy.

Anyways please don't lump me in with your bitterness of women that comes across with almost every post you make.

I date men in my personal life for how much fun they are, and how they make me feel. When I was younger, I even supported a few. These days I prefer that a man can pay his own way, just because I do not want to be used, but I am definitely not interested in his bank account. He can have a $10hr job as long as hes got one.

My job is selling massage, companionship, sex, fantasies, etc to men who's reasons might be very different for procuring my services. I am a prostitute, that is how I pay my way in life. I also have a lot of fun doing what I do. It is however not my personal life. I am not looking for the pretty woman scenario. My business and my job are kept very separate. I am very good at compartmentalizing my life. I am not looking for some guy to rescue me, I am happy living the life I want to live.

My only sadness is peoples judgments and preconceived notions about prostitution.

 

[Harmony-bc]

Well if she was dating a guy for money then maybe she wouldn't have to sell her body?

I am fine with selling my body. I have a high sex drive. I advertise in a way that I attract people that I want to spend time with. Its not always about sex. Sometimes I am a counselor, a companion. Sometimes I can make some lonely dejected man feel really good about himself. That is a worth while endeavor..

What in hell does this have to do with what she posted?? Hunsperger, you are an idiot.

thank you honey bunny

It's means she has never dated a man(boyfriend/steady) just because he had a lot of money.

That really wasn't that hard to figure out now was it? How about going back to your, boys riding bikes in tight shorts thread, that's a little more up your alley

Thank you, lovie dovey