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johnnydepth

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Guess it depends on how far $1 worth of charging will get you vs how far $1 of gas will get you.
For cost vs distance I’m pretty sure from what I’ve read and heard from friends with EV’s(one owns an Outlander PHEV another owns a Chevy Volt) the cost of charging is much less than the cost of fuel.

I’ll take a real hard look at this a year or 2 from now when the PHEV trucks hit the market.
It does depend on where you live. Not truck related, but I read two reviews on the Kona EV. Doing cost conversions one reviewer was getting just over 50 mpg, the other was getting just under 30.
 

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Guess it depends on how far $1 worth of charging will get you vs how far $1 of gas will get you.
For cost vs distance I’m pretty sure from what I’ve read and heard from friends with EV’s(one owns an Outlander PHEV another owns a Chevy Volt) the cost of charging is much less than the cost of fuel.

I’ll take a real hard look at this a year or 2 from now when the PHEV trucks hit the market.
I remember when gas was cents per GALLON. Now it's Dollars per LITRE. Unfortunately electricity will do the same.
 

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I remember when gas was cents per GALLON. Now it's Dollars per LITRE. Unfortunately electricity will do the same.
Nope, electricity doesn’t need to be refined. It’s the refining process that adds all the cost. Oil at US$52 per barrel, 157 litres per barrel, do the math. Electricity flows directly from hydro dam into your car. No complex expensive secondary process involved. Sure electricity will go up in price as everything does, but EVs will simply sop up all the excess electricity BC will be producing once Site C is completed.
 

jgg

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...Electricity flows directly from hydro dam into your car. No complex expensive secondary process involved...
I'm not sure which grid you are on?
 

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In BC if you want to produce your own electricity through solar/wind, the government is looking at limiting how much you can have based upon your house hold needs. It has to do with BC hydro paying for the extra electricity from these sources. So if you are going to go that way make sure you include future expansions like hot tube, 4 car charging (2 adults, 2 kids) and you like to keep your house at 24 degrees in winter.

Also the price of electricity will go up. Cost of living/business, how much extra money the government needs too, cost of maintenance and new dams, how much California refuses to pay BC hydro for electricity, etc. You will see an increase about every 3 years or so mostly due to government (lack of income) but put under maintenance etc....
 

westcoastrider1982

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Everyone also talks about the cost of electricity going through the roof once everyone jumps on the EV band wagon.
Well, the price of gasoline has already gone through the roof of the Burj Khalifa in Dubai!
It’ll be interesting to see what happens as the demand goes up and Site C gets built.
Site C will need to be paid for somehow! But will the cost of electricity be higher than gasoline?

Everyone also talks about how we need more refineries to lower gas prices...lol...yeah right! Building a billion dollar(I’m guessing on building cost) will lower gas prices!! I’m thinking not! That refinery also needs to be paid for! Not like the CEO’s at chevron or whatever are thinking “Jease, these poor people paying those ridiculous gas prices! Let’s build a refinery and pay for it out of our own pocket and cut the gas prices in half!”
Yeah, I don’t think so!
 

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I'm not sure which grid you are on?

The one that takes electricity from the Columbia and Peace River dam complexes and sends it via high voltage lines down to the lower mainland before its reduced in sub stations for distribution to homes and businesses.

BTW...all hydro increases need to be approved by the BC Utilities Commission. The most recent rate decision by the BCUC allowed BC Hydro to raise rates 1.8% in 2019 and 0.7% in 2020.
 

jgg

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The one that takes electricity from the Columbia and Peace River dam complexes and sends it via high voltage lines down to the lower mainland before its reduced in sub stations for distribution to homes and businesses.
So it's not quite direct dam to receptacle.
 

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4 power grids in North America. Western and Eastern. Texas and Quebec have their own grids:
 

johnnydepth

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I just read a recent article where Tesla indicated they will be undercutting Rivian in the truck market. Curious to see what rolls out in the next year.
 

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I would love to get a wind turbine for my back forty.
Not sure of costs and zoning but it would be great to charge my car and get free electricity.
 

westcoastrider1982

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https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/bc-gov-clean-energy-vehicle-program-2019

Looks like the government incentives have been lowered now on EV’s.

Wonder what this will do the entire industry?
Some say it’ll force manufacturers to get more competitive?
With gas no longer at $1.70 per litre and the hopefully the fucking pipe line actually starts getting built(that’s another good debate topic) and hopefully dropping prices further it may cause people to hesitate more about EV’s.
It would still be nice to have an affordable EV/PHEV option that would suit my needs and a lot of other people’s needs too!
I’m sorry but a Nissan Leaf ain’t going to cut it!
 
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