C'mon guy you know the answer to that too - anything that is indiginous to the species is normal - what is also normal is religious wakos attempting to pervert nature in an effort to control their fellow man by declaring what they cannot control to be abnormal and gaining power and wealth by doing so.
Paying for sex. Is it "normal"?
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I like this quote from a previously mentioned discussion:
"whatever situation guys find themselves in, married, girlfriend etc, we always end up paying for sex one way or another, prostitutes just cut out all the bullshit."
"whatever situation guys find themselves in, married, girlfriend etc, we always end up paying for sex one way or another, prostitutes just cut out all the bullshit."
There is no such thing as free sex.
Most people have sex at some time in their lives.
Since most people have sex and six is not free, it must be normal to pay for sex.
I think that it's naive to believe that "paying for sex" means only an upfront cash transaction. There are many ways we pay for things and most of them don't involve money. Those who have yet to figure this out are in for quite a surprise in the future.
Most people have sex at some time in their lives.
Since most people have sex and six is not free, it must be normal to pay for sex.
I think that it's naive to believe that "paying for sex" means only an upfront cash transaction. There are many ways we pay for things and most of them don't involve money. Those who have yet to figure this out are in for quite a surprise in the future.
The Thai view is described as follows:
"The concept of NSA casual sex doesn't really exist in Thailand, because thai men who simply need to be satisfied on a purely physical level have plenty of brothels and massages available. If you seek this from non-P4P thai women, they'll often say something like "What, you want free sex from me?" The theory is that if you just want sex, you should pay for it. Regular Thai women who have sex under the guise of NSA are giving you a free sample to test in the hopes that you'll get hooked and she'll end up with a boyfriend of some sort, which eventually happens if you mess around enough, whether you want it or not, since every man has his emotional weak points and gets lonely at times.
Thai women have sex for money or for romance. Sometimes for both, but very rarely for neither."
"The concept of NSA casual sex doesn't really exist in Thailand, because thai men who simply need to be satisfied on a purely physical level have plenty of brothels and massages available. If you seek this from non-P4P thai women, they'll often say something like "What, you want free sex from me?" The theory is that if you just want sex, you should pay for it. Regular Thai women who have sex under the guise of NSA are giving you a free sample to test in the hopes that you'll get hooked and she'll end up with a boyfriend of some sort, which eventually happens if you mess around enough, whether you want it or not, since every man has his emotional weak points and gets lonely at times.
Thai women have sex for money or for romance. Sometimes for both, but very rarely for neither."
I've occasionally met a P4P nympho in BKK who refuses to let me pay her. Sure, women like this exist. Although i think love is over rated, if not a superficial hollywood fantasy. How many marriages end in divorce, 75%, and the other 25% dream about it 24/7. With other type relationships, supposedly based on love or on people who are "in love" {read illusion}, it's even higher. If you want a nice story to make you cry a few tears while wasted, watch the movies, but don't confuse it with reality.
I don't know if i'm an expert. Maybe compared to most readers here, since i've lived there
for a couple years and spent hundreds of hours reading stuff from old Thai hands.
Although what i quoted was not my words, but the opinion of someone else.
A few more quotes:
"But we all pay for it in a round about way don't we? Whisk them off to a swanky restaurant followed by entry into a club and not even the slightest whiff of a blowjob at the end of it all? Clearly not spent enough! Or got to 'know them' well enough is the oft used euphemism. So it's a few more dates of much of the same and then, finally, it's sex without ties OR, if you're really unlucky, on condition of a relationship so you get baggage thrown in to the mix as an added extra! That is, of course, hyperbolic but then again is it really when you strip it all down to the bare bones of human interaction?
"In the unpredictable and sometimes baron world of 'dating', where the paragons of virtue can look down their noses from up on high at their moral inferiors who use the services of working women, it's perfectly feasible to spend the best part of the price of a new television set and receive nothing more than an ego battering for your trouble. With a hooker you'd get a ride and she'd at least have the good manners to pretend to like you."
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"Then again, anyone here ever been married? Wives, the most expensive working girls. And they don't even do the business most of the time! I know a guy who worked out his wife cost him on average over £2000 per lack-lustre shag. And that was not mentioning the emotional cost of losing your home, kids, etc."
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"They checked various figures length of average married frequncy of sex during the relationship, cost of being married and cost of divorce. In short they came up with a figure of how much it cost a man to be married and how often he had sex with his wife. The final figure came out just under 300 dollars for each sex act.
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"We all pay for sex in one way or another, it may not always be the coin of the realm we part with, sometimes its a new washing machine, sometimes a three piece suite, sometimes it even costs us a little pride or dignity, but lets face it a shag is a shag so lets just hope that whatever you are paying you get value for, just imagine giving up something even if it is just your time and energy for a snide ride, eeeeeew."
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Personally I prefer to pay for sex to an SP because it's less expensive. Also much more convenient, hassle free, anonymous, to the point and with the clear understanding of being truly NSA.
"But we all pay for it in a round about way don't we? Whisk them off to a swanky restaurant followed by entry into a club and not even the slightest whiff of a blowjob at the end of it all? Clearly not spent enough! Or got to 'know them' well enough is the oft used euphemism. So it's a few more dates of much of the same and then, finally, it's sex without ties OR, if you're really unlucky, on condition of a relationship so you get baggage thrown in to the mix as an added extra! That is, of course, hyperbolic but then again is it really when you strip it all down to the bare bones of human interaction?
"In the unpredictable and sometimes baron world of 'dating', where the paragons of virtue can look down their noses from up on high at their moral inferiors who use the services of working women, it's perfectly feasible to spend the best part of the price of a new television set and receive nothing more than an ego battering for your trouble. With a hooker you'd get a ride and she'd at least have the good manners to pretend to like you."
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"Then again, anyone here ever been married? Wives, the most expensive working girls. And they don't even do the business most of the time! I know a guy who worked out his wife cost him on average over £2000 per lack-lustre shag. And that was not mentioning the emotional cost of losing your home, kids, etc."
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"They checked various figures length of average married frequncy of sex during the relationship, cost of being married and cost of divorce. In short they came up with a figure of how much it cost a man to be married and how often he had sex with his wife. The final figure came out just under 300 dollars for each sex act.
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"We all pay for sex in one way or another, it may not always be the coin of the realm we part with, sometimes its a new washing machine, sometimes a three piece suite, sometimes it even costs us a little pride or dignity, but lets face it a shag is a shag so lets just hope that whatever you are paying you get value for, just imagine giving up something even if it is just your time and energy for a snide ride, eeeeeew."
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Personally I prefer to pay for sex to an SP because it's less expensive. Also much more convenient, hassle free, anonymous, to the point and with the clear understanding of being truly NSA.
older than any religion....the oldest piece of writing on the planet- the whore of babylon story- has a sex worker in it....
yes it is normal and in my opinion part of natures way of protecting children from being killed by un sexually fullfilled men and a way to enhance eveolution. pheremones, scent, suitable mates, unsuitable mates, the unsuitable mates still need sex....just one very basic example of what i am describing....you could also consider injured / disabled mates, in a cave man situation, that person may have been considered a less desirable mate as a result of a diminished capacity to be the provider. the injured or diabled cave man mate would have still had needs....
i have a condition that makes bearing children difficult, i won'tgo into it but in the cave man days what would have been the role of a childless female? perhaps this is why nature chooses a wide array of sexual identities and physical breeding potentials.
all very interesting comments and ideas, this is a topic i am very passionate about!
i really like the new dna evidence coming out about the "4 tribes" of humans. we are all related to 4 women. everyone. it makes you think, why then are we not all more similar, where does all the diversity come from?it's the horniness of men!! men's drive to filander is the reason for the success of our species!! think of a big old tree. the trunk is the female/maternal dna connections we all share and the flowers and branches the result of men's drive to fuck every pussy they see...well...within reason....
so for me sex work is not only normal but a function of nature in the grand scheme of evolution!
love susie
yes it is normal and in my opinion part of natures way of protecting children from being killed by un sexually fullfilled men and a way to enhance eveolution. pheremones, scent, suitable mates, unsuitable mates, the unsuitable mates still need sex....just one very basic example of what i am describing....you could also consider injured / disabled mates, in a cave man situation, that person may have been considered a less desirable mate as a result of a diminished capacity to be the provider. the injured or diabled cave man mate would have still had needs....
i have a condition that makes bearing children difficult, i won'tgo into it but in the cave man days what would have been the role of a childless female? perhaps this is why nature chooses a wide array of sexual identities and physical breeding potentials.
all very interesting comments and ideas, this is a topic i am very passionate about!
i really like the new dna evidence coming out about the "4 tribes" of humans. we are all related to 4 women. everyone. it makes you think, why then are we not all more similar, where does all the diversity come from?it's the horniness of men!! men's drive to filander is the reason for the success of our species!! think of a big old tree. the trunk is the female/maternal dna connections we all share and the flowers and branches the result of men's drive to fuck every pussy they see...well...within reason....
so for me sex work is not only normal but a function of nature in the grand scheme of evolution!
love susie
Yes, for both parties. An escort does not have to listen to the promises of a future together 'at some point' or other empty words we hear during courtship, which, men attempt to offer as their fingers tug at the rim of our panties.
The bullshit, as we age, becomes tiresome for both parties. I like the paremeters that business associations offer. We can both walk away unscathed.
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westcoast555
Yes it's normal..
You pay.. always. One way or another. You pay. Somehow.. some way.. You pay. You may THINK you don't pay... but you pay.
As to paying for sex... I was married, and now I'm divorced I'm still bloody paying for it lol
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*I don't know why they have to charge so very much for such a very short time.*
msg 11. maybe if you lasted longer you'd get money's worth!
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what ever floats your boat, i would'nt pay for it...
save money on prostitutes buy a blow up sheep and use it time and time again..
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even with masterbation sex you pay... for the lube, KY, vegie oil, butt plugs, vibrators, dolls, porn,
instruction booklets, medical gloves, antibiotics, doctor/hospital bills, etc...
At least you may be doing it with someome you love
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PAYING FOR SEX IS OK ,AS LONG AS IT IS CASH AND NOT CHEQUE,Sorry for shoutin,
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Get a dog. It's a babe magnet.
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So stonecastle paid for protuites and i can't spell that lol
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*I don't know why they have to charge so very much for such a very short time.*
msg 11. maybe if you lasted longer you'd get money's worth!
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what ever floats your boat, i would'nt pay for it...
save money on prostitutes buy a blow up sheep and use it time and time again..
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even with masterbation sex you pay... for the lube, KY, vegie oil, butt plugs, vibrators, dolls, porn,
instruction booklets, medical gloves, antibiotics, doctor/hospital bills, etc...
At least you may be doing it with someome you love
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PAYING FOR SEX IS OK ,AS LONG AS IT IS CASH AND NOT CHEQUE,Sorry for shoutin,
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Get a dog. It's a babe magnet.
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So stonecastle paid for protuites and i can't spell that lol
That reminds me of a funny story about Jerry Springer I heard years ago when I was in Cincinnati. At one time, Jerry was the mayor of Cincinnati. He would on occasion travel across the Ohio river to Kentucky to help the local ladies economically. On one of his escapades, he paid with a check but didn't have enough money in his checking account.
Monumental Fail:
1. Paying an SP with a check!
2. Bouncing said check!
The rest, as they say, is history.
I did not read all posts here however I say it is normal to pay for sex. It is not a justification of us however the most expensive sex is that called "free". From historic prospective paying for sex, without offensive prostitution, is as old as it gets.
I have no idea if it's normal or not, but once you're in, you're in. The real question is, why do we need to justify what comes down to our individual motives?
