Carman Fox

Olympics Pro or No ?

Olympic Support

  • Pro

    Votes: 29 43.3%
  • No

    Votes: 32 47.8%
  • Don't care

    Votes: 4 6.0%
  • Am leaving town

    Votes: 3 4.5%

  • Total voters
    67
  • Poll closed .

aznboi9

Don't mind me...
May 3, 2005
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Here Be Monsters
I remember when things in BC were pretty terrible across the board and the ruler of the day in this province was the NDP. Of course, if you had a government job you could rely on fat contracts and job security for less work and less creativity. Meanwhile the majority of citizens footed the bill for the inefficiency and waste.
At the time, I remember reading an article about how government had grown so large under Glen Clark that it employed about 40% of BC's population. It'd be interesting to see what the numbers are like now.
 

Hoops

Active member
Jul 17, 2005
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The reason we're seeing cuts to these areas is the drop in provincial revenues due to the global recession and not the Olympics. The government is experiencing huge shortfalls in funds they collect from the resource based industries.
Go take a look at the bc budget.
Overall revenues have not taken a drop.
But spending has increased massively and not on healthcare.
 

Yman

Lord Lickworthy
Jul 10, 2002
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Go take a look at the bc budget.
Overall revenues have not taken a drop.
But spending has increased massively and not on healthcare.
The BC budget includes a shortfall of 3.9 Billion. Half of that is from declines in corporate and personal income taxes and natural resource revenue.
 

bobsled

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Sep 25, 2002
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Pro and Con on Feb 2010...

Like most interested parties on this site, it's important to have an unobstructed flow of service.

I come to you or you can come to me, etc, etc.

Will the 2010 Olympics make this an interesting challenge?

Let me know when I get back from Cat69.

B.
 

Shakerod

Active member
May 7, 2008
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I guess I will get caught up in the moment like most people when the Olympics start, but why should I care about it before it happens?
 

hugedman

Guest
Aug 25, 2004
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I always get peturbed when I constantly hear these statements. Somehow there is a belief by a few out there that the Olympics is responsible for the cuts in health care and education. The reason we're seeing cuts to these areas is the drop in provincial revenues due to the global recession and not the Olympics. The government is experiencing huge shortfalls in funds they collect from the resource based industries. Some economists will actually argue that many people in BC were kept employed during the last year with Olympic related business. BC felt the pain of this recession much less than other provinces like oil rich Alberta or Ontario.

Reduce taxes ??? I don't know about you but I haven't seen or felt any reduction in taxes ? What about the coming HST ?

The concept of spending money on education, health care and larger government to stimulate an economy is the FAILED strategy of the NDP and the majority of people are too wise this antiquated approach. You can't put the horse before the cart to get results ! Big and small business is what propels forward the overall prosperity of the province.

Well said, Yman.
 

hugedman

Guest
Aug 25, 2004
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Talking about public service - do we all want to see the entire Olympics village to be occupied by all homeless and welfare folks? That's the most thing that City of Vancouver could do - have the low-income housing at the OV. What a job. Only an NDP-minded government could do such ridiculous act...
 

treveller

Member
Sep 22, 2008
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Jail Time for Politically Incorrect Comment

Having trouble understanding how you are being screwed by the Provincial Government and the Olympics? Check this out.

"The B.C. Civil Liberties Association today condemned the BC government’s Bill 13 proposals to allow Richmond, Whistler and Vancouver to enter residences and other private property with only 24 hours notice to remove or cover up signs during the Olympic period.

The amendments to the Municipalities Enabling and Validating Act (No. 3) introduced in the legislature apply only to the three Olympic cities over February and March 2010. Another amendment changes the Vancouver Charter to permit fines for sign and bylaw violations of up to $10,000 per day and imprisonment for up to 6 months. Previously, people had 14 days to comply with the bylaw, and fines were $2,000 per day."

from the BC Civil Liberties site at http://www.bccla.org/pressreleases/09bill13.html

It's sad to think there may be some people on this board that support this kind of government.
 

hunsperger

Banned
Mar 6, 2007
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Having trouble understanding how you are being screwed by the Provincial Government and the Olympics? Check this out.

"The B.C. Civil Liberties Association today condemned the BC government’s Bill 13 proposals to allow Richmond, Whistler and Vancouver to enter residences and other private property with only 24 hours notice to remove or cover up signs during the Olympic period.

The amendments to the Municipalities Enabling and Validating Act (No. 3) introduced in the legislature apply only to the three Olympic cities over February and March 2010. Another amendment changes the Vancouver Charter to permit fines for sign and bylaw violations of up to $10,000 per day and imprisonment for up to 6 months. Previously, people had 14 days to comply with the bylaw, and fines were $2,000 per day."

from the BC Civil Liberties site at http://www.bccla.org/pressreleases/09bill13.html

It's sad to think there may be some people on this board that support this kind of government.
I heard about this too...

but by posting something like this, you know your going to face the wrath and follies of the sheep...

not only will the event be poorly run, it's going to end up being a financial boondoggle of epic proportions...

remember a healthy educated work force is not the recipe for future prosperity...

building speed skating ovals and luge runs is...

just so we can say we are the center of the universe for two weeks:rolleyes:...
 
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Yman

Lord Lickworthy
Jul 10, 2002
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It's sad to think there may be some people on this board that support this kind of government.
I believe this thread is about the issue of supporting the Olympics and VANOC. I will kindly remind you that the Olympics were supported by the NDP in 1999 when the wheels were first put in motion to put together a bid.

What the government is proposing in Bill 13 is appalling and it's no doubt an abuse of our liberties in the name of the Olympics. But the Olympic dream in this province was not the exclusive creation of the BC Liberal party. I just thought I would mention this as it's relevant to the whole political issue which some people want this to be about.
 

treveller

Member
Sep 22, 2008
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Party Politics

Yman seems to think my comments are about the NDP and the Liberals. Sorry if I said anything to cause that.

I intended to comment on society, economics and politics, not one party or another. There is a difference between my complaints about "the Government" and any complaint I might have about one political party or another. It is a subtle difference but still important. I think both the Liberals and the NDP stink. I support and usually vote Green but I have lots of arguments with them as well. The only party I would really support is my own dictatorship.

What's relevant (or not) to this thread is that I think the Olympics are an ingenious scam and they do more harm than good for 99% of the population, along with tax payer funded convention centers and the huge sports/entertainment arenas.

The politicians use their taxation power to screw with the communities priorities, spending your money on big entertainment ventures without your permission.

Meanwhile we have people holding bake sales to raise funds for "essential medical equipment" for hospitals and whatever else for schools.
 

treveller

Member
Sep 22, 2008
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Enjoy Your New Roof

And on the subject of tax payer funded convention centers and huge sports/entertainment arenas, are you happy about being forced to spend $458 million on a new roof for BC Place stadium?

Didn't they just fix the existing roof?

What happened to the free market and private enterprise in BC?
 

uncleg

Well-known member
Jul 25, 2006
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And on the subject of tax payer funded convention centers and huge sports/entertainment arenas, are you happy about being forced to spend $458 million on a new roof for BC Place stadium?

Didn't they just fix the existing roof?

What happened to the free market and private enterprise in BC?
Not at all happy with waste of money, but it's probably less then the alternative, a new stadium. Then of course this will help to seal a spot for the Whitecaps with the MLS. Hopefully we'll then have a professional team that can win something.:D
The last repair was just a patch job to carry it through the Olympics.
As to free market and private enterprise, it died when the Liberals were elected.:mad:
 

sonoman

Leg man.
May 14, 2005
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Pro or No?

Let's see... I can't afford to or couldn't get tickets to any event. So, I get to watch the Olympics on TV... just like the other 2 billion or so people that will be viewing.... Except, I have to put with (likely) insane traffic, road closures, crowds, security, etc.... Maybe the only plus is that I won't have to watch events at 4 in the morning.
 
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