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DDawGG

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It is with out a doubt for real!

I first experienced this with a girlfriend about 20 years ago. She was in her late teens and would keep stopping the action before she orgasmed.

I found this VERY frustrating as mutual pleasure is important to me.

When she finally opened up enough to talk to me about it. She said that she was very embarrassed about the amount of ejaculate that she produced.

After much reassuring on my part she finally enjoyed herself and I can assure you there was no "piss" involved.

Fast forward 20 years and read my review on "Leanne the squirter" in Richmond. Once again I can assure you there was "no piss" involved there either.

If you haven't experienced a squirter, put one on your "to do" list.

You'll be glad you did!
 

RedOwl

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Sorry to rain (or is it ejaculate) on everyone's parade, but there is no such thing as "female ejaculate".

There is, however, something called stress incontinence. It is not uncommon for women to suffer damage to the urethral wall during childbirth, and sometimes it is so significant that they are completely incontinent of urine for weeks or even months afterwards. Fortunately, most women recover completely (particularly if they help things along using Kegel exercises), but a percentage will be left with stress incontinence. This means they lose bladder control when they cough, exercise, laugh too hard, and, of course, during orgasm.

Childbirth is NOT the only cause of stress incontinence. The control of urine storage and expulsion is mediated by somatic and autonomic nerve pathways, and any disease or injury that affect these pathways can be responsible for stress incontinence. This could be previous gynecological surgery, nerve disease (e.g. multiple sclerosis), and there seems to be a connection with smoking, obesity, and genetics. Often this is multifactorial in etiology. And sometimes the exact cause is unknown (called idiopathic urinary incontinence).

Travel Guy is correct. Sorry to blow this myth out of the water, guys, but I thought I'd spare you any more urine spray in the face.

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Since even the experts don't quite know the actual chemical make-up of the liquid being expelled from a woman's urethra, RedOwl or Travel Guy aren't in a position to make catagorical pronouncements about female ejaculation being a 'myth'. Nor can we say for certain it isn't a myth.

We'll just have to remain open and wait for more evidence, which so far is inconclusive. This is from the link provided by HFS:



Urine or Ejaculate?


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I have already explained above that the paraurethral glands do in fact produce an alkaline fluid. In some cases, all of the fluid emitted from a woman's urethra is ejaculate. In other cases, the liquid is likely a mixture of ejaculate and urine, or only urine. There has not been sufficient research done to clarify exactly what the fluid is, in every instance. The research that has been done often provided conflicting results. There is research that concludes it is only ejaculate or that it is mostly urine with traces of ejaculate. It is clear though that most if not all women produce the alkaline fluid in at least small quantities. It may seep out versus be expelled and be confused with sweat and vaginal lubrication.


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Is a woman urinating or ejaculating? This is a question that cannot be answer outside a medical lab. There is no accurate way of determining whether a woman is voluntarily squirting urine, experiencing incontinence, or ejaculating at the moment of orgasm. These fluids all exit the body through the urethra so the visible source is the same for them all. I'm not aware of any color, taste, or scent test that can be applied to the expelled liquid that will accurately distinguish them from one another. We are left with no other choice than to see them as indistinguishable, the same.

NOTE: In her book The Clitoral Truth Rebecca Chalker states a simple smell test will tell you if it is urine or ejaculate. If the fluid has a acrid scent, it is urine. This may be true but what difference does or should it make? My concern is that if a woman or her partner decides she is squirting urine then they may see it as undesirable; inappropriate. My position is, it really does not matter what type of fluid is expelled and being concerned about it may create a barrier to pleasure for women. It is okay to be curious about these fluids, that is only natural, but it is not appropriate to judge them.


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If you read the information presented on the website of Dr. Gary Schubach, he states his research has shown the majority of the fluid that is expelled originates in the bladder, but this expelled fluid is not quite normal urine. In his research, the woman’s bladder was emptied using a catheter prior to orgasm. During orgasm, a catheter was in place and connected to a urine collection bag. Analysis of the fluid expelled during orgasm is the basis for his claim. There is one flaw with his methodology; the bladder sphincter is normally closed. If it were not, urine would simply flow out and there would be no "ejaculation" of fluid. What is the significance of creating an artificial passage and collecting the fluid expelled from the bladder during pelvic muscles contractions? During orgasm, does this passage normally exists even if only momentarily? Some claim otherwise or that fluid enters the bladder rather than exiting from it. Even if fluid does collect in the bladder during sexual arousal, would it normally be expelled during orgasm? Are all women the same or are there "normal variations?" Dr. Schybach's research is still important but it provides only part of the picture. Research into female ejaculation is still in its infancy so I am sure we can find flaws in all the studies when looking back at them, especially as new research becomes available.


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Women who expel fluid during orgasm report the color, smell, consistency, and even taste, varies from one occurrence to the next. (It is safe for a person to taste their own ejaculate, and for couples who already exchange body fluids, but not for couples needing to practice safe sex.) Some have found their menstrual cycle influences the type of fluid expelled. What you eat is likely to have an effect on it, as will how much liquid you have consumed. There are women who report that it is sometimes clear and odorless, other times thick and pungent. Others report that it sometimes looks and smells like urine. It is safe to say, most women's ejaculate will vary with time, even during a single sexual episode.


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Swguy

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I Googled "Female Ejaculation" and got around 4300 hits. Here's a sample of some articles from the top 20.

Female Ejaculation - what is it and how to do it
"If you were to refer to literature over the last 50 years you would be lead to believe that females have only been able to ejaculate since about 1980. Of course this is absurd, and just shows how "the experts" can be wrong for decades on just about anything. Many knew the experts were wrong, but had little success in convincing anyone. Needless to say this lead to many problems, needless surgery (to fix the poor women who would ejaculate), expensive counselling (got to find out what happened when they were children to cause this "problem"), and in some cases divorce. "The G Spot" by Alice Kahn Ladas, Beverly Whipple, and John D. Perry, has dozens of letters from women who went though various personal tragedies because they would ejaculate during lovemaking. Doctors, gynaecologists, and psychiatrists invariably told them they were peeing and needed either surgery or psychotherapy.

Newsweek published an article entitled "Just How the Sexes Differ" in May of 1981. One of the major difference was listed was that men ejaculate, but women do not. However, Aristotle wrote about female ejaculation, and Galen knew about it in the second century. The female prostate, which generates the fluid which is ejaculated, was described in some detail by De Graaf in his "New Treatise Concerning the Generative Organs of Women". (1) "... during the sexual act it discharges to lubricate the tract so copiously that it even flows outside the pudenda. This is the matter which may have been taken to be actual female semen." He describes the fluid as "rushing out" with "impetus" and "in one gush." (2)

The medical community was finally awakened in 1980 when Perry and Whipple showed a film of a female ejaculating to the SSSS (Society for the Scientific Study of Sex). Martin Weisberg, M.D., a gynecologist at Thomas Jefferson University Hospital in Philadelphia responded, "Bull ... I spend half my waking hours examining, cutting apart, putting together, removing, or rearranging female reproductive organs. There is no female prostrate, and women don't ejaculate."

Yet after seeing the film and witnessing the event in person he changed his tune: "The vulva and vagina were normal with no abnormal masses or spots. The urethra was normal. Everything was normal. She then had her partner stimulate her by inserting two fingers into the vagina and stroking along the urethra lengthwise. To our amazement, the area began to swell. It eventually became a firm one by two cm oval area distinctly different from the rest of the vagina. In a few moments the subject seemed to perform a Valsalva maneuver (bearing down as if starting to defecate) and seconds later several cc's of milky fluid shot out the urethra. The material analysis described in the paper (Perry & Whipple's) is correct, its composition was closest to prostatic fluid".

Fluid Characteristics

The ejaculate is very much like prostrate fluid. It is usually clear, or milky and as thin as water. It does not have the look, smell or taste of urine. It is almost odorless. The taste varies, depending on the time of the month and diet, and possibly other factors, such as amount of stimulation received prior to ejaculating or time since the last ejaculation. It can vary from an almost honey sweet, sour, bitter, or a combination of these tastes.

Even though it is ejaculated from the urethra, it is most definitely not urine. It is absolutely impossible to pee during a orgasm unless there is a weak pubococcygeus muscle. This is very important, and it is important for the female and her partner to both understand this. The pubococcygeus muscle contracts when terminating a stream of urine, and is the muscle which contracts during orgasm. This contraction helps prevent retrograde ejaculation (ejaculation back into the bladder), and of course prevents the bladder from draining during orgasm."

Footnotes:
1) Regnier de Graal, "New Treatise Concerning the Generative Organs of Women", p. 107
2) Alice Kahn Ladas, Beverly Whipple and John D. Perry, "The G Spot" page 59. Dell Publishing 1982.
Ask Men.com
"What is female ejaculation?

Female ejaculation is the expulsion of fluid from or around the urethra. Again, the fluid is not urine and is usually followed by an extremely powerful orgasm (yes, even more powerful than ours).

How do I get her to ejaculate?

If you want her to achieve this amazing feat, then constant stimulation of her G-Spot will usually do the trick. As well, she has to feel comfortable in order to let loose and give in with complete abandon.

Because many women often experience the urge of ejaculation but hold back because they fear that urine will come gushing out, you'll have to encourage her to go with that sensation. But be prepared because if she's not well in tune with her body, she may actually pee all over you. Be understanding if she does, otherwise, she may start peeing on you on purpose

hey jack, culation

Maybe some women will lose control and give you the golden shower, but the majority of women are most likely experiencing a release of fluid from the Skene's glands. These glands are made from specialized tissue that surrounds the urethra. They're very similar to the prostate in men and again, produce a fluid that is much like the chemical makeup to that of prostatic fluid.

And yes, some women may produce greater amounts of fluid in these glands than others, which explains why some women seem to gush while others only blush.

Again, please keep in mind that not all women will have the capability of ejaculating. Even when it comes to women who do have this gift, it's not something that takes place every time they experience orgasm.

As well, the amount of fluid that flows out can go from a few drops to a few tablespoonfuls. Stimulating her G-spot is the way to her ejaculate and I will tell you all about that as we move on (or in, as the case may be). "
Canoe.ca - All about the G-Spot - Female Ejaculation
"It is difficult to talk about the G spot without mentioning female ejaculation, since the former is the origin of the latter. Indeed, a woman's urethra can produce an abundant emission of a nearly transparent and odorless liquid when she is brought to orgasm through stimulation of the G spot. The characteristics of this liquid are strangely similar to that of male sperm, without the spermatozoids, of course. This female ejaculation can often give a woman the impression that she is urinating, and this misunderstanding of the phenomenon has led some women to feel ashamed of their orgasms and to repress them.

Even today, many people have never heard of female ejaculation. This is probably one of the last remaining sexual frontiers—though it is gradually being opened up. While doctors don't know everything about the liquid that's emitted when a woman ejaculates, they're certain that it's neither urine nor a vaginal secretion. Instead, it seems to come from the same glands that surround the urethra and are close to the bladder. This area is sometimes called the "urethral sponge" and it is composed of tissues similar to those of the prostate gland in men.

Unfortunately, most women regularly experience sex without having the pleasure of an ejaculation. In fact, most of us will probably never know this type of ejaculation—nor will we be brought to climax through the stimulation of the G spot. Some women, on the other hand, ejaculate with every orgasm."
Women's Health Matters Network: Health Centres: Sexual Health: How Female Bodies Work
"Just before or during orgasm, some women release a clear fluid from their urethra. This is now commonly called female ejaculation. Most researchers (and women!) believe that this is not urine, but instead a clear fluid similar to the fluid containing a man's sperm. Ejaculation is most likely to occur when a woman is being penetrated vaginally and pressure is being applied to the top wall of the vagina. This is where the back of the clitoris meets the wall of the vagina and is sometimes called the G-spot."
SWG
 

LonelyGhost

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Isn't the bottom line: if you like it, you don't care what it is ... if you don't it will piss you off when it happens?

the only thing i ask for is a warning ... that's all ... just a warning.

when you ride the lady of the mist at niagra falls they hand out rain coats so you know you're going to get wet ... when an sp hands me a full body rain gear then i know its gonna be a wet ride!
 

Avery

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RedOwl said:
There is, however, something called stress incontinence.
Indeed there is, and I've experienced that too. A woman once pissed all over me during sex, and she didn't even have an orgasm! It was definitely urine, and it reeked!

Squirting is entirely different, and, as I said earlier, it has hardly any odour at all.
 

5punki

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travel guy said:
The glands that produce ejaculate are like any other gland - ie: sweat glands, saliva glands - thus actually squirting is as realistic as literally gushing a load of saliva from your mouth or squirting sweat from your arm pits.
You can actually squirt saliva from your saliva glands. I did it but not voluntarily. Big stream of saliva just shot out one time.
 
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