NSFW...this is the level I'd like to take with my next SP

[zzari]

the link is nsfw. but it is pretty exactly what I want to do with an SP.

any SP out there that can take it? I mean that guy was being so nice to her, I mean there' a whole other level out there.

Anyhow...if you are a female or tranny or feminine male SP it doesnt matter...

we can discuss details....

 

[juniper]

I enjoy it when a woman submits herself to me and allows me to discipline her, tease and deny, to tell her what to do, what not to do and to firmly spank her, first administering massage oil to her buttocks and two orifices, as "punishment" for her errant ways and to insure that she will behave more "correctly" in the future. I must admit that the video was fascinating to me although way beyond the limits that I, myself, would enjoy. It is quite apparent that the woman involved is used to being mistreated and was probably physically abused and maybe even sexually abused as a child. This video was not simply an act before a camera. No healthy woman would allow herself to be treated that way. On the other hand, submissiveness can be exceedingly sexual for both the submissive female and more dominant male just as its opposite, dominant female/submissive guy, can be extremely sexual. I, myself, like both although in moderation and with a strong sexual component for both myself and my partner.

 

[mikeret17]

I would look at it as NFW, as in No Freakin' Way. That is tasteless and degrading, IMO.
As has been mentioned so many times on these boards, ladies (SP. MPAs, etc) should be and deserve to be treated like human beings first & foremost. IF you ever run into any lady that either offers or consents to this type of treatment, I have to say I feel sorry for both of you.

I`m sorry, but maybe there is a different forum that this could be posted in, but to me this just doesn`t seem to be that forum.

Nuff said.

 

[Cliffy Ronaldo]

What differnece do you see between this and the average Rocco Siffredi / Evil Angel type gonzo porn?

IMO at least in Rocco's case he also knows how to be a gentleman and can switch between roles.

 

[Yman]

Ignorance is Bliss

IF you ever run into any lady that either offers or consents to this type of treatment, I have to say I feel sorry for both of you.

I`m sorry, but maybe there is a different forum that this could be posted in, but to me this just doesn`t seem to be that forum.

Nuff said.

You have a point about the forum. There is a BDSM forum on PERB.

I have to say I wasn't very impressed in reading your remarks about feeling ' sorry ' for anyone who would offer or consent to this sort of treatment. The very existence and nature of this board is about the sex industry. Sex is all about complex psychology. Arousal takes place in the brain. The same part of the brain that experiences orgasms is also the part that experiences pain. It's very common in sexual practice to have some forms of sexual dominance and submission. It ranges from very mild ( almost subliminal ) to more extreme like we see in this video. Even then this video was quite mild on that end of the spectrum. I think you would be surprised to learn how many respectable people with outstanding achievements might engage in this sort of activity. Who is it hurting if its consenual between two legal adults and it stays in the bedroom ? It becomes a problem in society when someone immature views this sort of video without knowledge or consideration of mutual consent.

 

[mikeret17]

You have a point about the forum. There is a BDSM forum on PERB.

I have to say I wasn't very impressed in reading your remarks about feeling ' sorry ' for anyone who would offer or consent to this sort of treatment. The very existence and nature of this board is about the sex industry. Sex is all about complex psychology. Arousal takes place in the brain. The same part of the brain that experiences orgasms is also the part that experiences pain. It's very common in sexual practice to have some forms of sexual dominance and submission. It ranges from very mild ( almost subliminal ) to more extreme like we see in this video. Even then this video was quite mild on that end of the spectrum. I think you would be surprised to learn how many respectable people with outstanding achievements might engage in this sort of activity. Who is it hurting if its consenual between two legal adults and it stays in the bedroom ? It becomes a problem in society when someone immature views this sort of video without knowledge or consideration of mutual consent.

Believe me, my comments were not meant to impress anyone. Admittedly, there MAY be some faction of our society that finds this type of thing FUN or INTERSTING, however I am not part of that group.
I hope the mods will see this and perhaps move it to the proper forum where it can be 'enjoyed" by proponents of the actions depicted.

 

[Smoothmover]

An ex of mine used to love it when she got smacked during sex, and by love it, I mean she went wild. A few smacks across the face and she'd go right over the edge. I could take it or leave it, but it drove her wild....whats a guy to do...?

It was a thrill to see her get that excited though...

On that note, I'm sure Jesikkaxxx would be up for a session like this and it would be a good time had by all

 

[juniper]

Read what Yman wrote again, Alexis, and try to understand what it means when he writes that arousal takes place in the brain and that the same part of the brain which experiences orgasms also experiences pain. I was unaware of the neuropsychology of this aspect of the brain but, assuming it is true, then the brain may associate pain and orgasms even to the extent that orgasms cannot be experienced without the critical comcomitant pain involved and this would differ from person to person and may change over a lifetime. Also, recall what Yman said, that sex is "all about complex psychology." Just as Freud first brought sex out of the closet in the very early part of the twentieth century and was roundly and continually condemned, you may (in a much lesser way) be condemning what Yman wrote because sexual arousal and the nature of the sexual act do not fit your moral and emotional imperatives and therefore you, yourself, are unable to accept the neuropsychological objectivity underlying his remarks. I'll give you a for instance: The young woman in the video may be psychologically unable to achieve orgasms or such peak orgasms unless they are accompanied by physical pain and humiliation. This is just speculation, of course, but probably describes the situation of more than a few (see Smoothover's interesting statement). Assuming this is the case, I, myself, found the extent of humiliation and violence in this video well beyond my own level of sexual arousal but, as Yman suggested, this level may even be mild compared to the levels appreciated by other couples, i.e., choking and snuff films. It may extend to a level of perversion which is not within the ken of most of us to comprehend. Nonetheless, and to repeat, the woman in this video was probably severely abused both on a physical, emotional and sexual level as a child and has come to associate sexual excitement with pain and humiliation. This would seem to be a psychologically apt statement given what we already know about the sexual functioning and later development of severely abused (female) children. What do you think, Alexis?

 

[juniper]

Your self-respect is evident, Alexis. I would be very upset if I had a daughter who did not demand equivalent respect. Having said that, I implore you to cast aside your personal abhorrence for such activities in quest of understanding why they exist at all, under what circumstances and what makes such participants tick.

 

[Yman]

Cmon Murrman, fess up and tell the truth. You're really one of those commentators from Fox News ? Is this Hannity ?

Who else would try to take an issue that has so many grey areas and paint it with a swath of black and white ? Watch out for that huge tar brush pooners who like a little slap and tickle . You're going down !

I wonder what someone of the dommes on this board , like Miss Jasmine for example, might have to say on the subject. Guys pay her to inflict pain, dish some humiliation and a dose of degradation. Her advertisement on Eros states she loves inflicting pain. Does that make her a psychopath who goes around killing kittens in her spare time ? ( I actually have no idea ....I've never met her ...lol ) I personally wouldn't jump to that conclusion.

 

[zzari]

Let me guess, the OP has zero interest in being on the receiving end of this treatment.

Actually, I equally love to receive this type of treatment from men.Thanks to craigslist, I don't require SP in this area.

Psychopathy and sexual preference are two totally different things.

Between consensual adults, why should anyone be overly concerned or vocal about what goes on?

I think you are overly concerned over what is right and wrong type of consensual sexual behavior between consenting adults.

Inflicting unwanted pain is obviously crazy. Sexual preference as most would agree is independent of your sanity. You are blindly claiming people who possess sadistic sexual desires are threat to you and suddenly masochistic desires are not a threat? This is seriously flawed thinking. Following the logic behind your argument, one can argue that I do not fall under your threat radar because my sexual desires cancel each other out.

 

[zzari]

This thread is gross.

Louis knows.

I remember watching that video. He really is funny.

But it made me think, did this really happen? It's a funny story but a women wanting to be forced? Please do tell me more about it, it certainly should not exist in this world right? I mean billions of women around the world all share the same level of equal human rights and we all live in a one giant rainbow place right? I mean surely, millions of women living under sexual slavery, this all must be a giant joke right? Tell us what is wrong and what is right. Because it's obvious your opinion truly matters on the internet out of a billion spam posts.

 

[zzari]

Dominique Strauss-Kahn is (was) one of the most powerful and respected men on the planet. You could say he has "achieved outstandingly" by becoming the chief of the IMF. He also likes to rape commoners and is (finally) getting his ass handed to him for it.

So forget the "successful people do it so its ok" crap.

Secondly, its the same part of the brain that decides whether stabbing your boss in the face with his letter opener is a good idea or not, so you can forget your orgasm/pain brain stimulus argument.

Third. The desire to RECEIVE pain to enhance sexual pleasure (because its the same part of the brain yada yada), is a non-issue. Pay for it or not, whatever. Its innocent enough, as we should be able to do whatever we want to ourselves, even if its dangerous or harmful. We are the ones going to the hospital later, at our own risk.

The desire to INFLICT pain, to stimulate that oh so mysterious place in the brain, is a completely different thing altogether. Its a hallmark of PSYCHOPATHY.

Children who mutilate animals are proven to be likely to move on to humans later in life. To be honest, I don't know of any statistics that point to men who like to punch up women while they fuck them are likely move on to "other levels", like the OP brags about, but I wouldn't be surprised. Where does it stop? Read "American Psycho"... theres no limit, and as I'm fully aware thats a fictional novel, you know that shit happens.

And don't fuck up the word 'consent' for the vast majority of us pooners (and proud of it!) who like to pay for sex because we love it and we love women and just cant get enough, so you can try to defend your ability to pay someone to let you beat the shit out of them making it magically "consensual". You can pay anyone to do anything, but that doesnt make it "OK"

Murrman

Murrman has been diagnosed as a sexual sadist — a tendency to derive sexual gratification from inflicting pain — with very strong psychopathic traits and strong indicators for necrophilia, an erotic attraction to corpses. A psychologist found him to be aroused by the physical and psychological suffering of others, had rape fantasies and was interested in bondage and sexual asphyxia.

they cut that girl up with a knife while they raped her. no doubt this is the holy grail of what the o.p. is fantasizing about

Read more: http://www.timescolonist.com/news/Langford+teens+life+sentences+sexual+torture+murder+Kimberly+Proctor/4551304/story.html#ixzz1NoIhgJ5I

why would you watch shit like that? I mean women getting raped and snuffed? What is the matter with you.

 

[zzari]

I would never want to be slapped in the face by a man while giving him a blowjob, it's degrading.

Trust me it feels really good.

 

[badbadboy]

Trust me it feels really good.

Why do you like getting slapped while blowing some guy?


The OP's vid belongs in the BDSM area IMHO.

 

[shedevil]

This is ridiculous. I slap, choke, ballbust, flog and spit in men's faces becuase that's what they want and enjoy. I enjoy doing this as a sadist.

Believe it or not, there are women who enjoy being treated like that. Consensual non consent, abduction, human toilet, rape etc. This is a sexual want just like gangbangs, threesomes, golden showers and cream pies.

Just becuse you don't like it or understand it, doesn't mean that it is wrong. In BDSM, you do not hit a person in anger. It only may seem that way as it is "role playing".

 

[Getting2KnowU]

Anyone who complains about this is a fucking pussy; not so different from those Christian fanatics who say, "I disagree with "insert topic here" so I want it banned".

Yeah, let's form subgroups. The Vanilla Sex Trade, for those who want to buy sex, but have angelic morals about it. CIM groups, anal groups, foot fetish groups. Right let's splinter everything down so that each group has 2-4 people in it... don't wanna offend the angels here.

For me, having a guy's dick in my mouth would be repulsive. Slapping a girl's face while she sucks my dick is a meanness that turns me off. Gangbangs, not for me. Human toilet...hmmm, depends on the girl.

But if a guy is paying for it, and the SP is ok with it, it's not for you to judge. Visit the Bill Maher thread from today. He may as well be talking about all the Hippocrates here.

 

[DavidMR]

This is ridiculous. I slap, choke, ballbust, flog and spit in men's faces becuase that's what they want and enjoy. I enjoy doing this as a sadist.

Believe it or not, there are women who enjoy being treated like that. Consensual non consent, abduction, human toilet, rape etc. This is a sexual want just like gangbangs, threesomes, golden showers and cream pies.

Just becuse you don't like it or understand it, doesn't mean that it is wrong. In BDSM, you do not hit a person in anger. It only may seem that way as it is "role playing".

Thanks, that's very useful. Male dominant, hetero S&M has been pretty much suppressed in Vancouver for years due to feminist influences. Some of that influence was recently on display in the Supreme Court case involving a guy who choked his wife unconscious, then forced a dildo into her ass. The Supreme Court reinstated a guilty verdict of sexual assualt that the Ontario Appeal Court had set aside, and the whole case involved the dildo bit. Nothing was said about the safety of choking! And that was the stance taken by feminist groups such as LEAF in their arguments before the court.

And SheDevil,... since you apparently do some fairly hard Femme Domme scenes it's interesting to read in your reviews that you can also so scenes where the Man is allowed to penetrate you Anally. A sign to me that you're very versatile sexually.

 

[shedevil]

And SheDevil,... since you apparently do some fairly hard Femme Domme scenes it's interesting to read in your reviews that you can also so scenes where the Man is allowed to penetrate you Anally. A sign to me that you're very versatile sexually.

I don't submit. Particular services that I provide are to please ME. On my terms and say so. I control all of it. Back to the topic now...

 

[Adriana✿]

This is ridiculous. I slap, choke, ballbust, flog and spit in men's faces becuase that's what they want and enjoy. I enjoy doing this as a sadist.

Believe it or not, there are women who enjoy being treated like that. Consensual non consent, abduction, human toilet, rape etc. This is a sexual want just like gangbangs, threesomes, golden showers and cream pies.

Just becuse you don't like it or understand it, doesn't mean that it is wrong. In BDSM, you do not hit a person in anger. It only may seem that way as it is "role playing".

EXACTLY! I love being submissive, rough sex and being slapped & choked, having my hair pulled, spanked, tied up and cum all over. It arouses me to be a man's sex slave. LOVE IT! Its makes me orgasm.

Dr. Vanessa Kelly and I did an orgy with 6 men who did what they wanted to us and then all six came on our faces at the end. It was so hot! One person's degredation is another's ultimate fantasy. Live and Let Live.

You people have no right to judge someone else's fantasy. Our sexuality is incredibly complex and to apply a simplistic view to something like this is asinine. Grow up, already