No Guns Policy in my Company
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Well put. For the record, I should state that I'm not a big fan of guns myself. I don't own one, and I probably never will. Heck, I've never even fired a gun. I'm far from being a right-wing gun nut. It's pretty much irrelevant to this discussion, though.
Fudd: a far more effective, more progressive, and less discriminatory (not to mention illegal) policy would be to train all of your company's managers and team leaders to recognize the warning signs of violence, and learn to deal with potentially violent employees before they snap and actually become violent. Of course, that's more work, and less simplistic.
If you're looking for a quick-fix, make-us-feel-good-about-ourselves-without-actually-doing-anything-about-the-problem solution, which has the potential to have serious legal repercussions, then your "we won't hire anyone who owns a gun" policy is the way to go. If you want a solution which actually has a chance of working, and which won't get your company into legal trouble, go with what I've suggested here. Heck, you can even claim credit for it. Tell the managers that you've been thinking it over, and you see some flaws with the no-gun-owners policy, but you've come up with an alternate plan which will be more effective anyway.
Maybe the company should go forward with those criminal record checks.
After all, they SHOULD fire anyone who has a record for assaulting a police officer, right?
Bye Bye Fudd...
After all, they SHOULD fire anyone who has a record for assaulting a police officer, right?
Bye Bye Fudd...
1. The public or employers have no access to the gun registry.
2. You can be sued for simply asking applicants if they own a gun, since owning a gun is perfectly legal with paperwork.
3.. If someone wants to kill you bad enough, they probably will, gun or not.
If I wanted to kill a coworker, I think I would use a knife anyways. Its more quiet and I would have a better chance of doing it, and getting away. A gun would draw a LOT of attention. Actually I would probably just beat them to death, that way I would get a 2 year manslaughter sentence. A gun to work to kill someone, well that would get me first degree murder, I would try to avoid that.
But as always, another thread to make everyone laugh at you. And in turn people who actually do want to make a positive change in society. They get painted with the same wacko brush.
2. You can be sued for simply asking applicants if they own a gun, since owning a gun is perfectly legal with paperwork.
3.. If someone wants to kill you bad enough, they probably will, gun or not.
If I wanted to kill a coworker, I think I would use a knife anyways. Its more quiet and I would have a better chance of doing it, and getting away. A gun would draw a LOT of attention. Actually I would probably just beat them to death, that way I would get a 2 year manslaughter sentence. A gun to work to kill someone, well that would get me first degree murder, I would try to avoid that.
But as always, another thread to make everyone laugh at you. And in turn people who actually do want to make a positive change in society. They get painted with the same wacko brush.
FUDD - are you really this stupid?
A personal conduct code? What website are you posting on? Where do you draw a line on allowable conduct? A website describing the quality of SP's and the specific acts they perform. Employers don't have any right to be in your bedroom and that goes for legally registered firearms also.
A personal conduct code? What website are you posting on? Where do you draw a line on allowable conduct? A website describing the quality of SP's and the specific acts they perform. Employers don't have any right to be in your bedroom and that goes for legally registered firearms also.
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so basically nobody there can think for themselves? not to pick on the educated but i've seen enuf people with degrees that have no idea how to problem solve.
If it ever leaked that you turned away someone for them legally owning a gun the company would go bankrupt as the supreme court of canada would give them such a large fine nevermind the personal violation of the persons charter of rights and freedoms lawsuit that would finish the company off. Also what about illegal guns, im sure many of us have that bad ass family member who can very easily get a gun of the streets. Its people who commit unfair judgements and persecute people in this manner that make some people act out in violence, many could kill as easy with a knife as with a gun. Or even a cross bow or bow and arrow.
No need for any of that shit,,just a good whack in the throat,collapse their wind-pipe
I think Fudd and Bostich are having a constest to see who can post the most pointless thread. So far it's a tie, you're both idiots!
Sometimes I think this board is the secret meeting place of some subversive right wing organization thats part of Harper and his Conservatives.
This whole thing is about work place safety and doing something positive to encourage a safe and friendly working environment. We already have a policy of zero tollerance for violence in the work place. Our company even has access to counseling services for employees. This new policy just enhances what we have in place and will ensure all current and future employess that they do not have to worry about there coworker showing up with an AK47 to kill them. As for law suites what about law suites from employees against the company for not doing enough to ensure there safety?
You are all nut bars if you think having free access to guns is not a problem in our society. Take a look at the vast list of workplace shootings in the US where they have free access to guns.
Brady Centre to Prevent Gun Violence
I counted 40 work place shootings in back to 2005. Thats around 1 a month which is a very troubling figure.
http://www.bradycampaign.org/action/workplace/pdf/workplace-shootings.pdf
This whole thing is about work place safety and doing something positive to encourage a safe and friendly working environment. We already have a policy of zero tollerance for violence in the work place. Our company even has access to counseling services for employees. This new policy just enhances what we have in place and will ensure all current and future employess that they do not have to worry about there coworker showing up with an AK47 to kill them. As for law suites what about law suites from employees against the company for not doing enough to ensure there safety?
You are all nut bars if you think having free access to guns is not a problem in our society. Take a look at the vast list of workplace shootings in the US where they have free access to guns.
Brady Centre to Prevent Gun Violence
I counted 40 work place shootings in back to 2005. Thats around 1 a month which is a very troubling figure.
http://www.bradycampaign.org/action/workplace/pdf/workplace-shootings.pdf
Ther seems to be no end of the number of work place shootings.
The National Institute For The Prevention Of Workplace Violence
http://www.workplaceviolence911.com/Articles/articles.jsp?listType=1015
These are very troubling numbers.
The National Institute For The Prevention Of Workplace Violence
http://www.workplaceviolence911.com/Articles/articles.jsp?listType=1015
These are very troubling numbers.
Fudd how many mercury filled vaccines did you recieve as a child? You do understand the point that whether somone owns a gun or not they can still kill someone just as easily. Would be easier to bomb a staff party than to shoot it up. So I guess no one at your company can own any chemicals that could be explosive. Less guns = higher crime. I know you could care less about facts so why should I even bother posting links to say I dunno a certain town in the USA that hasnt had a homicide in 25 years due to the law that every resident MUST OWN A FIREARM AND AMMUNITION. 25 years and no homicide, in the US fucking A. Wrap your pea brain around that.
Yoh Fudd,,what about that kid killed with an air gun a few weks back??You said that you own one yourself
Your right wing nut case brain is missing the point that guns are specifically designed to kill people with the exception of air rifles that can actually be used in Olympic sports but only under heavy regulations. Guns have no other purpose, house hold chemicals have other usefull purposes.
As for that town that forces people to own a gun, thats just propaganda from that right wing nut group the NRA. From your attitude I believe you have been brain washed by the media to think that guns are a socially acceptable thing.
My late uncle was just like you. He owned hand guns, shot guns and assault rifles and he did not think there was anything wrong about that. Furtunately I know better especially since I attended a lecture by one of the mothers of the Montreal Massacre victims.
The type of thinking that guns are OK is a antiquated ideology that belongs in the stone age not a civilized society like Canada.
I'll admit that someone can kill even without a gun but if just discouraging someone from having a gun can save even just one life it will be worth it.
As for that town that forces people to own a gun, thats just propaganda from that right wing nut group the NRA. From your attitude I believe you have been brain washed by the media to think that guns are a socially acceptable thing.
My late uncle was just like you. He owned hand guns, shot guns and assault rifles and he did not think there was anything wrong about that. Furtunately I know better especially since I attended a lecture by one of the mothers of the Montreal Massacre victims.
The type of thinking that guns are OK is a antiquated ideology that belongs in the stone age not a civilized society like Canada.
I'll admit that someone can kill even without a gun but if just discouraging someone from having a gun can save even just one life it will be worth it.
I inherited it from another relative who won a medal in the Commonwealth games with it. Its a family heirloom. I wanted it to be destroyed but my cousin was making a big deal about it. He really freaked for some reason when I registered it. I don't understand why anybody would not want to register there guns it helps the police with crime prevention.Yoh Fudd,,what about that kid killed with an air gun a few weks back??You said that you own one yourself
Why is owning a firearm a right. What about the rights of the victims of gun violence, what about the rights of people who want to go to work and not have to worry about someone coming in with an AK47. Why can't people find a less lethal alternatives.
For Self Defence
If someone needs a device to defend themselves why not use a stun gun. While not completely harmless as demonstrated from the airport incident it is a alternative to outright filling someone with lead. Or how about using pepper spray.
For Hunting
As for hunting purposes, it just creep me out because my uncle had a basement filled with his "trophies". He did not eat these poor defenceless animals he just stuffed and mounted them. Isn't it better to admire a animal in nature than the kill it and stuff it.
For Target Shooting
How about just getting a simple air rifle. Or even using computer simulation equipment like they use for police training. In this age of electronic technology people can design gear and programs to simulate all kinds of shooting sports.
As for the crazy militia aren't they that group that bombed the building in the US killing hundreds of people? They are just a bunch of terrorist!!!
As for me having power and getting into politics, I may just consider doing that one day so I can make the world a "better more civilized" place.
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Aren't you the type of person my mother warnned me about?No need for any of that shit,,just a good whack in the throat,collapse their wind-pipe
Fudd pepper spray and stun guns only work on 1 person. Pepper spray will get into the air and you'll breathe it in to, even outdoors. There will always be workplace violence and removing guns wont stop it. But really how many vaccines did you have when you were a child and did your mother breast feed you.
