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No charges against Samon Kings players.

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I saw this in the Vic time today .. and then read the story .. the crown does not think they can get a conviction ... But the RCMP .. thought there was enough evidence to give it to the crown ... I f you read the story more .. they say that even with the video s from cell phones .. and other evidents .. three top lawyers of Canada don't thing they can get a conviction .. i would like to know WTF is going on here ... should that not bee up to a judge .. or jury.
They never did release that much on this case .. but .. i doubt very much if the girl involved was up for a gang bang.. that is forcing some one to have sex .. Rape.. even if she may have been an SP .. which I don't know if is the case or not..I doubt if she was up for that either.. Most would not .. because it can get out of control like this did.
. Any body with some other info on this .. or thoughts.
 

furball8

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read the story? I can hardly read your post. Learn about punctuation and use it properly.
 

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Not about my Grammar

I was just asking what others thought about this story ....
I read most of the story .. and understand one thing.. Which the story does not say .
Our judicial system does not drag upstanding citizens through the muck of there life just for political grand standing.. especially if they are third rate hockey players.. but they may just know some of the right people.. so lets not embrace them .. with there sexual exploits ..For no reason at all.... I doubt if this is the first time !
The Canadian judicial system is a very strange animal .. it is not all about justice .. it is a bout a show of justice.. and assured convictions.. very seldom do you her of a not guilty verdict in Canada.. We do here about a number of convictions thrown out .. after 20 yrs .. because of . over zealous presenting evidence .. and the presumption .. of guilt even before the trial starts.
Right now with the Pickton case .. I would say the justice department is using all of its resources to prosecute him .. and there is nothing left to give minor cases any time ... Other cases where there are victims also ,that need justice.
 

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furball8 said:
read the story? I can hardly read your post. Learn about punctuation and use it properly.
Hey Furball we all love Maxx around here.......part of his style is the phuked up writing so get off his ass.........;)
 

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Thanks for the vote for grammatical error But i can all way stand p for my right . to spell bad and F*** up the English language.. It does that all by it;s self any way But w are off topic ..
What is every ones take on the Salmon King thing .. or does no one have an opinion on what is right and wrong.
I know we my not be angles . but where you step over a line there is consequences.. i think they stepped over that line ..
 

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Well pro sports players do this shit all the time, sometimes they're caught and sometimes not. They should all be punished to the full extent of the law if guilty. And to the girls out there, please don't be soooooo stupid as to put yourselves into situations like this, you may not have intended things to get out of hand but come on common sense says...........bad scene doesn't it?
 

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It is hard to tell from the article as to what evidence they actually got. the videos were probably inconclusive other than proving sex took place. Without some proof, what they are left with is 'she said, he said' and getting convictions would depend on which persons were most believable.

Here is the article maxx50 refers to:
http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/story.html?id=cd0d9c05-f83b-4fa6-95bf-cbea04dc0eb6&k=0

No charges in Salmon Kings case
Crown doesn't see likelihood of conviction on sex assault allegations

Rob Shaw, Times Colonist
Published: Friday, February 09, 2007
A group of unidentified Victoria Salmon Kings hockey players is off the hook for any criminal charges relating to an alleged sexual assault.

The B.C. Crown prosecutors office decided yesterday it could not take the case to court because evidence gathered by Victoria police more than three months ago didn’t provide a substantial likelihood of conviction.

The case centered around a woman’s accusation that several Salmon Kings players confined and sexually assaulted her in a room at Paul’s Motor Inn during training camp in mid-October.

Police raided the team’s dressing room at Save-on-Foods Memorial Centre later that month with a search warrant.

Their investigation continued until evidence was submitted to Crown prosecutors Nov. 9. Part of that evidence was potential picture and video files on cellphones of current and former players, the Times Colonist was told. Police technicians had the ability to recover those files even if they had been deleted by the user.

The decision not to charge any players came after three of the Crown’s most experienced lawyers decided the evidence didn’t meet what’s called the “charge assessment standard.” It measured the likelihood of conviction — which included what evidence would be admissible in court, its legal weight or impact, and how it would stand up to potential defence arguments.

Crown lawyers were “unanimous in concluding that the evidence did not meet our stringent charge assessment standard,” said spokesman Stan Lowe.

Prosecutors also considered if it was in the public interest to proceed with charges. However, Lowe said that was not a concern in this case.

It took the Crown about four months to make its decision, partly due to the Christmas holidays but also because police conducted a follow-up investigation to provide more evidence, said Lowe.

The exact type and quantity of evidence was not disclosed.

“Crown counsel have met with investigators on the file and explained their decision to them and they are in agreement with our decision,” said Lowe. “Prosecutors have also met with the complainant in this case and explained our decision to her.”

The Salmon Kings are an ECHL franchise and have been in Victoria since 2004. They are also a farm team for the Vancouver Canucks.

The team was in Idaho last night for the second of a three-game series. Neither coach Mark Morrison nor president Dave Dakers could be reached for comment.

The organization put out a short statement that read: “The Victoria Salmon Kings cooperated fully with the authorities during the investigation and now consider the matter closed.”

rfshaw@tc.canwest.com
 
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