Nice Guys Finish Last?
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Nothing wrong with being a nice guy but you need to be a little bit
challenging as well. Don't be too available. At least give the illusion
you have options as well. People like to have won't they can't have.
Be a little mysterious (don't reveal all your faults & short comings on the
first date). Let her think you have other women competing for your
affections. Don't make the mistake of being "a friend" to a woman. You
will be stuck always being in the "friend" category.
Be nice but not too predictable (boring). Women are attracted to
confidence. Have a plan. Don't ask a woman what she wants to do
on a date. You do the planning (if she thinks your plan sucks, then
she can always offer an alternate plan).
Women like men who have a plan. Don't be aimless. Despite what you
hear in the media, most women still prefer a masculine man (with a touch
of sensitivity & class mind you).
But mostly, be geniune. Jerks who try to be a "nice guy" reveal their
true colors very early in a relationship (hey, they can only fake it for so
long).
It's actually good to be a "nice" guy. But be nice & funny. OR nice &
exciting. Niceness on its own doesn't cut it.
challenging as well. Don't be too available. At least give the illusion
you have options as well. People like to have won't they can't have.
Be a little mysterious (don't reveal all your faults & short comings on the
first date). Let her think you have other women competing for your
affections. Don't make the mistake of being "a friend" to a woman. You
will be stuck always being in the "friend" category.
Be nice but not too predictable (boring). Women are attracted to
confidence. Have a plan. Don't ask a woman what she wants to do
on a date. You do the planning (if she thinks your plan sucks, then
she can always offer an alternate plan).
Women like men who have a plan. Don't be aimless. Despite what you
hear in the media, most women still prefer a masculine man (with a touch
of sensitivity & class mind you).
But mostly, be geniune. Jerks who try to be a "nice guy" reveal their
true colors very early in a relationship (hey, they can only fake it for so
long).
It's actually good to be a "nice" guy. But be nice & funny. OR nice &
exciting. Niceness on its own doesn't cut it.
think of it like this..
Who wants a fish that just jumps in the boat? Feisty ones are way more fun.
Who wants a fish that just jumps in the boat? Feisty ones are way more fun.
I've found this to be generally true, the thing is almost no girl will actually admit it.
There's even an evolutionary basis for it, but discussions of evolutionary basis of human biology and behaviour got me banned last time so I'll keep that one to myself, look it up if you want.
I've found that even the girls who are getting beaten up by their bfs/husbands on a regular basis will deny that they are more attracted to assholes, but then they go from abusive relationship to abusive relationship and say that they just don't have any 'luck' with guys, or that all guys are abusive.
There's even an evolutionary basis for it, but discussions of evolutionary basis of human biology and behaviour got me banned last time so I'll keep that one to myself, look it up if you want.
I've found that even the girls who are getting beaten up by their bfs/husbands on a regular basis will deny that they are more attracted to assholes, but then they go from abusive relationship to abusive relationship and say that they just don't have any 'luck' with guys, or that all guys are abusive.
Yep.
Blah blah blah confidence. Blah blah blah strength. Blah blah blah blabbity blah comfortable. Bullshit.
Women go for assholes or money and/or both. Fact of life.
Be realistic: Looks win out everytime.
some women may be attracted to wealth/power and will then hire a
hot poolboy to float their boats while hubby is off earning more ...
confidence and humour work too, but the good looking guy will
still be laughing all the way home with your date ...
and is it ironic that many good looking guys are also bad boys?
nope: because its also true that if you can get by on looks you
don't need a personality.
Money, power, confidence, a sense of humour all make up the
asshole women want to marry,
but when they want to fuck, its the hottie who wins every time.
some women may be attracted to wealth/power and will then hire a
hot poolboy to float their boats while hubby is off earning more ...
confidence and humour work too, but the good looking guy will
still be laughing all the way home with your date ...
and is it ironic that many good looking guys are also bad boys?
nope: because its also true that if you can get by on looks you
don't need a personality.
Money, power, confidence, a sense of humour all make up the
asshole women want to marry,
but when they want to fuck, its the hottie who wins every time.
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when a woman's hot, she has offers to date, fuck, or marry all day long. and with many guys that's 95% of the battle. but when a guy is hot, that's just your foot in the door. from there you still have to win her over. i mentioned confidence before, but you have to be careful that doesn't turn into blatant arrogance either. i think if you are hot, rich, funny, confident, and interesting then you don't need to worry which trait lured her in, but when you don't have all of those you wonder which one works the best. a better answer would be to go find a guy who does well with women and ask him.
so far the women in this post have answered nicely. and it's so refreshing to see their answers over what a mother or sister would tell you.
i don't think there is just one answer. so far everybody's answered with what they truly beleive to be true. but for every not-hot guy who's fuckin a hot chick, there's some hot guy wondering what went wrong or how he lost out.
when a woman's hot, she has offers to date, fuck, or marry all day long. and with many guys that's 95% of the battle. but when a guy is hot, that's just your foot in the door. from there you still have to win her over. i mentioned confidence before, but you have to be careful that doesn't turn into blatant arrogance either. i think if you are hot, rich, funny, confident, and interesting then you don't need to worry which trait lured her in, but when you don't have all of those you wonder which one works the best. a better answer would be to go find a guy who does well with women and ask him.
so far the women in this post have answered nicely. and it's so refreshing to see their answers over what a mother or sister would tell you.
not always... but mostly.
But sorry... The same can be said men though. Some nice boobies or hot ass will make you put up with some insane, mean and controlling bitches.
But sorry... The same can be said men though. Some nice boobies or hot ass will make you put up with some insane, mean and controlling bitches.
if you sit there and regret a relationship
because you feel like you are a nice guy and just feel sorry/sad then you will finish last. Those are the nice guys that finish last. The dude with no confidence.
You got to know that you are nice and just be yourself and you won't finish last. And if you are nice just use your brain and not your dick, things will work. Ask yourself what did you get out of being nice and balance it out. Confidence will help you with this. girls will walk over you if you are too nice. BUT being nice will definitely help you to win over woman, its just a matter of how smart you are with your "niceness" and confidence! most sane woman would say that she would want to be with a romantic nice guy vs the wife beater.
All said and done humour and excitement are very important as well.
because you feel like you are a nice guy and just feel sorry/sad then you will finish last. Those are the nice guys that finish last. The dude with no confidence.
You got to know that you are nice and just be yourself and you won't finish last. And if you are nice just use your brain and not your dick, things will work. Ask yourself what did you get out of being nice and balance it out. Confidence will help you with this. girls will walk over you if you are too nice. BUT being nice will definitely help you to win over woman, its just a matter of how smart you are with your "niceness" and confidence! most sane woman would say that she would want to be with a romantic nice guy vs the wife beater.
All said and done humour and excitement are very important as well.
Nice Guys Finish Last?
Yes but who cares...I learned a long time ago that women are like boats and planes...IF IT FLOATS, FLIES, OR FUCKS YOU'RE BETTER OFF RENTING!
Yes but who cares...I learned a long time ago that women are like boats and planes...IF IT FLOATS, FLIES, OR FUCKS YOU'RE BETTER OFF RENTING!
They most certainly do. The thing that gets me is that they end up complaining about it being a bad relationship after the fact but 99 times out of 100, they put themselves into that situation, even if they have been thru one just like it before.
Interesting comments about being a "nice guy"....
I can say that I'm a non-smoker, social drinker, no drugs, don't go to the bars, etc type of guy. I have had ads on some of the more popular dating sites and only get responses from the medium to heavier women. I've never dated a slim/sexy woman.
My looks: 5'10" - 200 lbs...average size. I'm balding on top and a lot of women seem to have a problem with that. I think that it's very short-sighted on their behalf, but it doesn't change societies view on a guy with no hair!
It sounds like some of the guys on here don't need a PERB woman as they can get a girl no problem...while there are those of us on here who have all the "right" stuff, and any straight good looking girls don't want anything to do with us, so we look for sites like PERB....
Rambling from the sidelines.....
(and I wonder why I pay for sex !)
I can say that I'm a non-smoker, social drinker, no drugs, don't go to the bars, etc type of guy. I have had ads on some of the more popular dating sites and only get responses from the medium to heavier women. I've never dated a slim/sexy woman.
My looks: 5'10" - 200 lbs...average size. I'm balding on top and a lot of women seem to have a problem with that. I think that it's very short-sighted on their behalf, but it doesn't change societies view on a guy with no hair!
It sounds like some of the guys on here don't need a PERB woman as they can get a girl no problem...while there are those of us on here who have all the "right" stuff, and any straight good looking girls don't want anything to do with us, so we look for sites like PERB....
Rambling from the sidelines.....
(and I wonder why I pay for sex !)
I think it'a a mindset. Being bald may only be a minor issue - depends how a person carries themselves. A person could say they're not having luck with ladies because they're less desirable somehow...i.e. with the negative media stereotypes with Asian males - a person may say that being an Asian male has drawbacks. However - the question is - is this the case?
Personally, I think we should stick with our hobby and just change our mindset about ourselves or find reasons/excuses why some aren't doing as well with the ladies.
Personally, I think we should stick with our hobby and just change our mindset about ourselves or find reasons/excuses why some aren't doing as well with the ladies.
Women Take Better Care of Themselves
Yes, the aging process may be unkind for us fairer sex but we fight back
by taking better care of ourselves. We eat better, watch our weight more
and use facial creams to enhance/protect our skin.
Yes, the aging process may be unkind for us fairer sex but we fight back
by taking better care of ourselves. We eat better, watch our weight more
and use facial creams to enhance/protect our skin.
Only the stupid ones will put up with the grief,the smart ones rent the boobies and hot ass without the drama.not always... but mostly.
But sorry... The same can be said men though. Some nice boobies or hot ass will make you put up with some insane, mean and controlling bitches.
It's the Call of the Wild. LOl.
I don't think shaving your head because you are going bald is giving in I think it is about accepting it and owning it! Which means confidence and that is hot!
Secondly, it is nature for women to go for rough and tough men, it's all part of the call of nature. Big strong men mean read sub-consciounsly as being more fertile ensuring that we keep reproducing. It's the call of the Wild. We can't help it.
I don't think shaving your head because you are going bald is giving in I think it is about accepting it and owning it! Which means confidence and that is hot!
Secondly, it is nature for women to go for rough and tough men, it's all part of the call of nature. Big strong men mean read sub-consciounsly as being more fertile ensuring that we keep reproducing. It's the call of the Wild. We can't help it.
1. Just as men and women are both stupid in pretty much the same way.
2. There is not an endless combination of differences. After awhile they fit a profile, just as men do.
So true. However, I am not a seducer. I tried that a few times, and usually it just comes across as intimidation. For example, one I tried to seduce (and actually succeeded that time) had her hands shaking like a leaf as she tried to type on the keyboard as she and I were conversing. Most of the time, seduction is a disaster for me. Instead, I just get a sense from a woman and I find an excuse to be in her presence and give off some good vibes. That works for me.
Yes, that's so true. I love nice girls who show a flair for being bad. People of both sexes who have this combination are the best of both worlds.... you can feel close to them because they are genuinely nice, yet won't bore you to tears because they can light your flame and liberate you by being "bad".
This has worked for me. However, I was stupid enough for a long time to swallow the line from women that it's not the physical traits (muscle, height) or size of dick. It turns out that they are as lustful and ravenous as men when presented with a good body and a good size cock. And I get a sneaking suspicion that a good size cock probably is not enough.... though many might say that yours (mine) might be big enough and it hurts at times, I get the feeling that many would love to land a python when they pull down the trousers and at least give it a good 20 tries.
Another way that works well is if you see a good looking woman that you like, become friends with her friend. In the friendship, never mention the good looking woman unless your new female friend mentions her first. In the company of both of them, never pay direct attention to your intended target. Always initiate conversation with the friend instead. Soon jealousy rears its ugly head, and an opportunity will avail itself for you to be alone with your desired one. She will have a very heightened curiosity toward you, and perhaps even risk losing her friendship to start something. It is at that point you must play your cards carefully. But it can work very well.
Have you had them? I'm sure you must have. I have, and exactly like real fishing, there are most you would rather throw back into the sea and only a few are keepers. You learn that keeping ones you don't really want are not worth the hassle.... cleaning the scales, etc. I remember even one rock cod that kept biting the lure and I kept having to unhook the dumb thing and keep throwing it back (4X). It was sunny and very warm that day, the water was clear, and the lure was very tempting. Damn fish must have been hungry. Oh by the way, I was actually talking about a fish, not a person.
