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wilde

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'They are scabs'
Hirsch blasts NHLers in Europe
By Corey Hirsch


Calgarian Corey Hirsch attacks NHL players for going to Europe during the NHL lockout.

Calgarian Corey Hirsch, 32, was tending net for the Langnau Tigers of the Swiss 'A' League when the NHL lockout hit. His life has been affected by the influx of locked-out NHLers to Europe.

Hirsch and Sun columnist Chris Stevenson have been exchanging e-mails about the situation facing players in Europe who have lost their jobs since the arrival of the locked-out NHLers. Hirsch is one of them. His is the story behind the headline every time you read another NHLer is Europe-bound. Here is his story, in his words:

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The NHL lockout has affected many people on a variety of different levels -- but every time an NHL player signs in Europe, another life is affected.

As of yesterday, 236 NHLers are playing in Europe.

One of these lives affected is my own.

I came to Europe two years ago to get away from the NHL.

For whatever reason, like many of my North American colleagues over here, I didn't make it in the NHL. Europe was the next best option to keep my career going.

Once again, though, the NHL has me in its grasp. It's like a chokehold I can't get out of but this time it's different.

It's my fellow players who are doing the damage.

NHL players are coming to Europe in droves and are bumping off, one by one, players who actually need the money.

While I understand some players feel they have to play or they may become lockout casualties themselves, the lack of compassion and understanding of what they are doing to many of the players in Europe is extremely unnerving.

Every day, I read another arrogant quote from someone coming to play in Europe for no other reason than to stay in shape. Where is the logic in not negotiating a CBA that will still pay a player more than he'll need but instead come to Europe to play just to stay in shape?

Some of these players should have a talk with my pregnant wife and kids who moved their lives to Europe, only to watch me sit in the stands game after game because I have been bumped by an NHL player (Martin Gerber of the Carolina Hurricanes). There's a good chance I may not play a game this season.

The NHL lockout will end and a strong majority of these players will go back to the NHL.

They will have careers making great salaries but the damage they will have left in their wake will be irreparable.

While they are back playing, myself and many others will be fighting for jobs that pay minute salaries compared to the NHL.

Without playing the previous season due to this mess, many players in Europe may have to retire.

I wonder if any of the NHL players understand the repercussions of their actions.

When the topic of NHL replacement players comes up, it is met with anger and resistance.

Do NHL players not realize this is exactly what they are doing by taking jobs in Europe?

They are scabs over here, replacement players, basically rented to put fans in the seats.

All these players they are stepping on over here will now be the first to stand in line if and when the NHL needs replacement players.

I understand my views will probably not change anything.

They will, however, give NHL players an understanding it is not OK to bring their lockout mess to Europe and believe they are doing no harm.

We are now at 236 lives and counting, not to mention the families that have been affected.

So before NHL players come to Europe, I suggest they take a long hard look in the mirror and ask themselves why they are coming?

Other than to stay in shape, they will be playing for little money and will be destroying the job security of others.

Is this not exactly what the NHL players are fighting against back in North America?
 

timec

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Stay out all year – I’m not missing hockey since I’ve found Jesus. :D No need for me to live vicariously through the over-hyped, overpaid prima donnas masquerading as hard done upon worker-Joes.

Players going to Europe – Corey, it’s called the competitive job market – welcome to the real world.
 

The Lizard King

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BTW I also believe if the players can play in Europe, the teams should be free to hire replacements.
 

BYSON

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niteowl said:
Well the way I see it for every Eurpeon player drafted another Canadian gets screwed so turn about fair play.
The NHL is the best in the world with the world best players. I think eurpeons should not play junior in canada this is taking away from canadians. As far as corey Hirsch says I agree, Cory wasn't good enough in the NHL so he moved to play pro in Europe, and now is getting screwed by the NHL. I also like that the lower class guys in the NHL speaking out say lets get it done and play hockey
 

magoomba

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BYSON: you must be referring to Mike Commodore (Calgary Flames)

Awfully brazen of him to speak out like that but you have to respect the guy. He's right on a number of points.

It is the highest paid players who will hurt the most under a salary cap. Yet they are the ones who can survive the longest during the lockout.

I know I'll be a bitter fan once hockey's back.
 

chiefwiggum

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Cory Hirsch: cry me a river.

This is the free market. This is what the players want. Professional hockey is a business, whether it's the NHL or Europe. Owners want the best (or best known) players when they can get them - if it makes them money.

The very fact Hirsch was able to leave the NHL and play in Europe (something his hockey forefathers back in the 50's and 60's couldn't do because of the draconian reserve clause) is a symptom of the very system he's now crying sour grapes over.

Hirsch was in the NHL long enough, making one of those blatantly-too-high average salaries, that he should be set for life. This business about his family and economic troubles is pure bullshit.

Give me a break.
 

tobi

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If a mail worker goes on strike in Canada, can he go to the US and work to stay in shape then come back to Canada when the strike is over? If a factory worker goes on strike can that person get a similar job to stay in shape and come back? Who mans the picket lines? I don't see any picket lines. Who really cares?

Does anyone really miss the NHL? There are so many substitues out there that are getting paid way less and show more gumption in their play.

This whole strike is a joke for greedy little bastards on both sides of the coin. If the players want more money, why not play for the percentage of revenues instead of a contracted salary. Be real entreprenuers and businessmen.
 

static

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This isn't a strike. Its a lockout. Big difference. Nothing wrong with players playing in Europe, just wish they'd televise the games here.
 

CJ Tylers

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I hope it takes a LONG, LONG, LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time for pro hockey to come back.

Perhaps, after some time with drained pockets BOTH sides will realize they will have to lure fans back.

Once they learn that people are pissed off with them, perhaps a drop in prices can make the game a reasonable past time for Canadians to take part in once again.

Until then, may they grow old, fat and starve on their ill gotten gains. They lost my interest in the sport a long time ago, once I realized the pure rip off nature of pro hockey.

I will never support another pro sport event (well, the Lions aside...at least their tickets are reasonable) in my life. I just don't believe in it.
 

stainless

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Corey Hirsch should know in professional sports, people lose their "jobs" all the time - it comes with the territory. It's a strange situation when a NHL player will go over to Europe or play in the AHL for a fraction of the money they would earn in the NHL but absolutely refuse a salary cap. Other pro sports which have much higher revenues - NFL & NBA has such a cap.

I believe the players are getting poor advice from their association.
 
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It’s funny that the NHL players in Europe have no problem taking the jobs of European league professional hockey players for far less then what they would make playing in the NHL… in some cases 90 % less. Doesn’t this mean that they would be willing to play in the NHL for far less money? Aren’t they shooting themselves in the foot? Are these going to be the same NHL guys that sing the blues when the NHL opens the door for replacement players and it’s the displaced pros from the European league that are first in line to sign up?

They should be taking a page from the referees and linesmen’s book who collectively agreed not to take the jobs from aspiring refs and linesmen from the minor leagues and amateur ranks.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/hockey/nhl/2004-10-28-lockout-money_x.htm

To the refs and linesmen: Way to Go! :)

To the 232 NHL players in Europe: Booo! :mad:
 

frogkiss

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Couldn't make the Canucks.

Corey couldn't make the NHL? He couldn't even make the Canucks. Even when there was a goalie job for the taking. I think he'll always be remembered for letting in the Forsberg shootout goal that cost Canada the gold medal.
 

niteowl

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So Hirsch is crying about NHL players taking jobs away from players in Europe. Well didn't he do the same thing three years ago? Is he crying about NHL players in Europe or is he crying because he didn't have what it took to be an NHL player?
 

dirk_dog

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Hirsch should get a job selling cars.

Being able to make a living playing a game - at any level - is a privalege not a right.

Maybe his wife could get a job if they need to pay the bills.

They are all a bunch of cry babies.
 

wa senior

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wilde said:
'They are scabs'
Hirsch blasts NHLers in Europe
By Corey Hirsch


By union definition, a "scab" is a replacement worker that crosses a picket line. NHL players that play in other leagues are exercising their right in a free market world.

Personnaly, I haven't followed the NHL since they expanded the league, back in the days when the Leafs had Johnny Bower in goal. :)

All sports need a salary cap, not just the NHL.
 
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