...Newest JENNY...CL

[wungut]

hi Arianna.. i see your point of view as a SP and totally agree on what you say.. but..

Now from a pooners point of view.. i don't know if you've read my reviews or not ... but i try to provide fellow pooners with helpful info on SP's..and remember, just info. not telling them where to go or who to see..it's totally up to them to decide weither to go or not after reading.. i know the lurkers are alittle annoying, asking all these questions and not giving much back..but i guess they're just trying to get info cause they're new at this... i was a lurker before.. but once i couldn't find the info that i was looking for i decided to TOFFT..there are too many options out there.. especially when alot of the SP's move around and post under different names... its really hard to tell who is who... hopefully other pooners will follow and do the same and give back. .

I don't agree on the previous post where DJlegman stated that we should reward the girls for a great service..if he means tipping, then i would agree..but i don't know if he means we should only pay if we're satisfied with the service and not pay if we're not...i believe a SP should do what is advertised and be paid the fee she charges for providing the service....a $.40 for 45minute job, shouldn't be any different from a $$$ an hour job.. personally i don't mind paying up front or later when the deal is done.. but if i pay up front, i expect her to do her job and get what i pay for.. if i pay $$$ for an hour i expect top service and the FULL hour, not so so, hurry up n blow 30 minutes we're done service.. and the $.40 should be the same..pay for 45minutes not 15-20 minutes..hurry up and finish so i could go sit around and wait for my next customer deal..Not saying all SP's are like that.. but alot are... and fellow pooners.. when you arrive at the apointment and don't like what you see.. just leave..or offer a .20 greeting fee... i know its kinda rude...but hey... can't blame us for not putting up real pics..( and i'm not saying you should, i understand the privacy issues).. but you can't buy a car without seeing it first... its better then rushing the whole thing, end up hating it and writing a bad review on the poor girl..just notify us that she wasn't what was advertised.. i don't like doing the see and dash thing.. but i hate getting tricked in goin to a place....we don't like driving or taking the transit all the way, going through all the BS of looking for a parking spot.. and not get what we were expecting.

anyways.. i hope you understand what i'm saying..there's two sides to every coin.. just need to find a balance in the two.


btw.. i did see Jenny tonight. will have a review on her tomorrow..

 

[arianna_royale]

hi Arianna.. i see your point of view as a SP and totally agree on what you say.. but..

Now from a pooners point of view.. i don't know if you've read my reviews or not ... but i try to provide fellow pooners with helpful info on SP's..and remember, just info. not telling them where to go or who to see..it's totally up to them to decide weither to go or not after reading.. i know the lurkers are alittle annoying, asking all these questions and not giving much back..but i guess they're just trying to get info cause they're new at this... i was a lurker before.. but once i couldn't find the info that i was looking for i decided to TOFFT..there are too many options out there.. especially when alot of the SP's move around and post under different names... its really hard to tell who is who... hopefully other pooners will follow and do the same and give back. .

I don't agree on the previous post where DJlegman stated that we should reward the girls for a great service..if he means tipping, then i would agree..but i don't know if he means we should only pay if we're satisfied with the service and not pay if we're not...i believe a SP should do what is advertised and be paid the fee she charges for providing the service....a $.40 for 45minute job, shouldn't be any different from a $$$ an hour job.. personally i don't mind paying up front or later when the deal is done.. but if i pay up front, i expect her to do her job and get what i pay for.. if i pay $$$ for an hour i expect top service and the FULL hour, not so so, hurry up n blow 30 minutes we're done service.. and the $.40 should be the same..pay for 45minutes not 15-20 minutes..hurry up and funish so i could go sit around and wait for my next customer deal..Not saying all SP's are like that.. but alot are... and fellow pooners.. when you arrive at the apointment and don't like what you see.. just leave..or offer a .20 greeting fee... i know its kinda rude...but hey... can't blame us for not putting up real pics..( and i'm not saying you should, i understand the privacy issues).. but you can't buy a car without looking at it first... its better then rushing the whole thing, end up hating it and writing a bad review on the poor girl.. i don't like doing the see and dash thing.. but i hate getting tricked in goin to a place....we don't like driving or taking the transit all the way, going through all the BS of looking for a parking spot.. and not get what we were expecting.

anyways.. i hope you understand what i'm saying..there's two sides to every coin.. just need to find a balance in the two.


btw.. i did see Jenny tonight. will have a review on her tomorrow..

couldnt be said any better! im glad you understood where i was coming from, sometimes its hard to express EXACTLY how one feels over this site..some people take things out of context etc. i agree with you 100% and if everyone just followed the unwritten rules of providing what is advertised..and being respectful in return we would all just be happy horny satisfied friends lol

x0x all have a great evening!​

 

[Pantherdash]

I read on here about people who hate the "lookers" Well the way I see it is, why should BAD sevice providers get any money?? We should reward the Ladys who are great and give good sevice. I want to give money to someone that has been recommended. I have no problem spending the money.We should all work together and not against each other.We should have the power here and say who gets paid and who will get no business from us. The service providers should work towards and want to be recommened on here. Im new to this and I hope you understand what Im trying to say. I don't want to put money in the hands of some rip-off artist.Thanks for listening to what I have to say. We should have the power.

First off...you and I are NOT we. Let's get that straight. This is your first post. You signed up at the same time I did, and that's the only thing you and I have in common. You've been lurking for 6 months and, your claim to being new here is just garbage to avoid getting flamed for something that you should be flamed for...throw us a review or one iota of intel and maybe we'll talk. That goes for you and the literally tens of thousands of lurkers on this board. Your suggestion of unified solidarity amongst the pooners to pit the bad SPs cannot work as long as there exist lurkers like yourself. You're not the worst case I have seen, by any means and maybe you meant well, but your idea really ticked me off and I'll tell you why.

In your post you're trying to convince me and all the other pooners who regularly contribute here with useful intelligence that if an SP is not good or does not live up to what she advertises that you, just like me and contributing pooners deserve the same intel? NOT A CHANCE!

First the obvious. If an SP decides to be a hardcore rip-off, a con, a bait and switch, she's going to go through with it. They will not wake up one day and decide, "I'm going to be a better provider today, because Perberts have me on a rewards programme." It doesn't work like that with these fine citizens and their "managers." They cast their nets and usually catch quite a few, and/or move on to the next city if they're hardcore professional scams. Thankfully in many cases PERB works against them and usually quite fast. But that's of course, assuming that it is reported and/or some good detective work is brainstormed by contributing members. Some are just plain obvious.

Typically we decide to see the SPs if they are good service providers. Typically we get this info a priori. If we TOFTT and discover after the fact that an SP was a rip, a junkie, a chronic dead lay or was just not as advertised, then this bit of info should be reported and hopefully the SP will either take steps to improve, or suffer the losses to her business. Elementary. So a rewards programme is already in place for the less severe cases and the gems, but it's the lack of participation from lurkers and no-review pooners that severely limit its potential, particularly with the WOTs and WOMs.

The rips exist and continue to exist because there is not enough communication between pooners, in other words lurkers, who comprise the vast majority on this board, and who may have had a negative experience did not post this much needed info, for whatever reason.

And if by chance it was reported, who deserves this bit of info more...the pooner who has TOFTTed and warned us about rips and cons, or those who have given us nothing and has freeloaded from us for years? So what you propose could work for the most part IF pooners like yourself contributed. But as it stands, you're all just part of the problem.

It's the indifference of the masses that makes this hobby a minefield and they choose to go along with it and freeload at the same time--that's a fuck-and-a-half if there ever was one! The members list is somewhere in the tens of thousands and of those, it is comprised of maybe 95% lurkers and no-posters. Just imagine how much more info there would be if that lurker rate was cut back to 55%, or 25%, of that tens of thousands (a little ambitious, I know but you catch my drift). Then there would be a much more level playing field, wouldn't you agree? And it doesn't take much to be on the right side.

The info on this board is free. As it stands there are no rules against NOT contributing to the board. With me, to give a newbie some intel, it usually only takes a couple of reviews under his belt (not even a TOFTT) for me to welcome them and thank them and provide them with intel that they may need and it usually encourages them. Contrary to what others may say, I am a bit of a softy and it usually doesn't take much. But I chomp down from ear to ear the skulls of the hardcore and serial lurkers, like the son-of-a-bitch panther that I am! And they still don't get it! And they write back and flame me, or PM me rude and threatening notes...it just takes a couple of reviews or a few bits of intel to get off my shit list. I don't think it's much that we ask.

Here's a hint to all lurkers to cut your losses...go for the tried and true, but don't ask for more info when we are already being generous with the thousands of reports that do exist. Go out and TOFTT the SP you're so curious about...but don't forget to report back. You said, "I want to give money to someone that has been recommended." Well then EARN that privilege.

How personally taxing and burdensome would it be to throw us a bone from time to time? You write well, so why would it embarrass you to share your experiences with the rest of us. You exist in cyberspace, your personal info is secret and will not be divulged, I have NO idea who you are, so what's the problem? The way I see it, and others have tried to convince me otherwise, there is NO excuse for not contributing, unless you're hoarding and then it's also just plain selfish. This is after all a REVIEW board, not a lurking board.

I hope that with this I can convince you and others to share some info with us and not just take. Most of the time it works and it gets others off their ass. Just don't get sores on your butt doing it. Let's build a sort of united way, you know "together we can." Because the only rewards programme I want to see implemented is one that benefits the pooners who regularly contribute intel and reviews to this board...the hardcore lurkers can go to hell!

Panther

 

[wungut]

yo panther.. your thread is a million times better then mine. ... you said everything that was on my mind and was too lazy to type it all.. ... way to go..

gonna write my review on Jenny now. looking forward to your imput..

 

[Quarter Mile'r]

I feel your frustration Panther and your cause in getting the lurkers to
come aboard is futile at best. Sure the odd one may put something
down here from time to time but overall, lurkers are just that and
won't come out of the closet for any reason.

Unfortunate this is for obvious reasons and I'm glad you took the time
to voice your opinion here PD. Great rant dude!
I got a pm from a guy about 3 weeks ago asking for info.
He's been a member here since '02. Guess how many posts this guy
had..............0 !!! How's that for a hard core lurker.

One other thing, it's way more important to hear a non glowing review,
call it a negative review if you will but so important like you say PD
to wead out the WOT/M. IMO even more important than the glowing
reviews to keep us away from those who provide shitty service.

Hey wungut, looking forward to your review bud!


............QM'r

 

[demoman]

Jenny is a gorgeous young woman . She is a stunning beauty in a city of beautiful women . She is meticulously well groomed and nice to talk to . Jenny is a safety girl . She is very low mileage , and charges accordingly ( 20 min. / 160 ) . The person taking her calls has a pattern of booking her for appointments that she doesn't keep . I don't know who is to blame , and I don't care . I just resolve to not repeat this annoying experience in the future . My preference is for more mileage , and less BS . Otherwise , I'd spend more time with the GF .