New Agency in Town??? Hush?

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Dawgspeed

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Gotta Admit .. I am kinda surprised .. A lot of people complain about the hobby becoming to expensive ..
A New Agency .. Providing a lower entrance fee for those to enjoy .. is opening up, Yet your not happy about it ..

If you do not like the ladies they are offering to start off with .. Vote with your wallet .. go to Island Finest or V.C .. Or an Indy that suits your needs ..
But shit on the Agency & Ladies, thats just opening .. that i do not understand ..

I for one will be looking forward to a New Agency in Town .. We can never have enough in my books
 

Seamac49

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I am going to un-follow this thread after this post.

Fellas. Let me say this.

Simple Economics. Simple Supply and Demand.

Victoria doesn't have a robust demand.... I assure you...... Cruise Ship season probaly dictates higher demand, so prices are indicative. I am currently in a market where it's 20% cheaper, but. That's because there are many ladies competing for your time. That's right.. Your time that you pay for.

So you all can debate pricing or services. The AMP scene is notorious for bad service.

I have been around this block. And time spent with an established lady is usually well its worth it's money in gold.

The agencies bring you establishment. But so do some of our beautiful indies.
The agency model you guys enjoy in Victoria is nowhere to be found elsewhere in Canada.

See you all soon.
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I have been around this block. And time spent with an established lady is usually well its worth it's money in gold.

The agencies bring you establishment. But so do some of our beautiful indies.
The agency model you guys enjoy in Victoria is nowhere to be found elsewhere in Canada.
I completely agree! The agency model we have here in Victoria truly offers the best deals, and it's hard to find anything like it anywhere else in Canada.
Here’s a good example for a good time in Victoria


45 Minutes: $320
1 Hour: $400
90 Minutes: $500

XXXtras
DATY $40
BBBJ $100
CIM $100
COF $50
DATO on me $50
DATO on you $80
Deep Throat $50
MSOG $50
Digits $50
 

Seamac49

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I legit can't tell if you're being serious or sarcastic. The agency scene in Vic is horrible (to be fair it's never been particularly good, but it's way worse now than it used to be).
No I was serious.

In fairness to me I have been back East for the past 18 months

Maybe not to the current state of affairs, but simply the fact we have them. Where I am right now in Ontario the Agencies are Club like atmospheres and usually its a shower a massage, and a handy. And that can run you up to 3 hundy Non AMP
 
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I completely agree! The agency model we have here in Victoria truly offers the best deals, and it's hard to find anything like it anywhere else in Canada.
Here’s a good example for a good time in Victoria


45 Minutes: $320
1 Hour: $400
90 Minutes: $500

XXXtras
DATY $40
BBBJ $100
CIM $100
COF $50
DATO on me $50
DATO on you $80
Deep Throat $50
MSOG $50
Digits $50
I’m definitely picking up on some sarcasm here, haha! 😄 but I can be wrong 😑
 

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I legit can't tell if you're being serious or sarcastic. The agency scene in Vic is horrible (to be fair it's never been particularly good, but it's way worse now than it used to be).
I also think it's hilarious (and sad) that Vic agencies are now trying to normalize charging extra for DATY when that's something the large majority of clients want and has been historically ALWAYS part of basic full service.

Just another nail in the coffin for the Vic scene.
 

Dawgspeed

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I also think it's hilarious (and sad) that Vic agencies are now trying to normalize charging extra for DATY when that's something the large majority of clients want and has been historically ALWAYS part of basic full service.

Just another nail in the coffin for the Vic scene.
It is sad .. Vote with your wallet .. and do not book with ladies, who nickel & dime ** Indy or Agency** as its the SP`s that set the extra prices
 
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I've stopped going to IF for the nickel and diming reason. Their girls are very attractive. But the fact that LFK and DATY are extras to an already high rates prices me out. Not their problem as I guess I'm not their target clientele but disappointing. I frequented a fair amount back before the rates started climbing and I could still opt for an extra or two.

Vogue is better in this respect as most of their providers include the above mentioned in the basic rate. The pessimist in me feels like they'll change for the worse in the future along with their new location once they get more clients through the door there.

Of course from a business standpoint idk where the balance is between a fair inclusive rate vs rate + extras is. Things are expensive so rates increase, fewer clients maybe but there are always ones who can afford to pay it... Where's the ceiling though and what happens when it plateaus? I don't see prices ever coming down at that point lol, so I guess that's when they eventually fold and someone else comes in?
 

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I've stopped going to IF for the nickel and diming reason. Their girls are very attractive. But the fact that LFK and DATY are extras to an already high rates prices me out. Not their problem as I guess I'm not their target clientele but disappointing. I frequented a fair amount back before the rates started climbing and I could still opt for an extra or two.

Vogue is better in this respect as most of their providers include the above mentioned in the basic rate. The pessimist in me feels like they'll change for the worse in the future along with their new location once they get more clients through the door there.

Of course from a business standpoint idk where the balance is between a fair inclusive rate vs rate + extras is. Things are expensive so rates increase, fewer clients maybe but there are always ones who can afford to pay it... Where's the ceiling though and what happens when it plateaus? I don't see prices ever coming down at that point lol, so I guess that's when they eventually fold and someone else comes in?
As they say "the cure for high prices are high prices", so this new agency and the one in Langford might be the beginning of that. I used to visit the ladies more frequently and switched to asian providers recently because the prices are affordable. And on top of that, paying for an hour with an attractive woman means nothing if there is no chemistry. Some of the best experiences I had doing this were with woman that were much cheaper than the agencies.
 

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This thread is (probably unsurprisingly) quickly devolving into rants about rates, but whatever, I'll add my 2c to the mix.

I can remember when there was a number of agencies in town (Victoria's Eden, Seduction Unlimited, Class Choice, SVIPS, etc, etc) and all of them seemed to have a good number of ladies working for them and rates were almost universally lower (often significantly so) than independents and extras were virtually unheard of. Whether that was good or bad for either side (clients or the girls) is debatable (I'm not trying to romanticize that era as the "good old days" by any stretch), but there was a time when there seemed to be a sense of variety around agencies in Victoria.

Now there's two (I don't particularly count this new agency as a third given how it's clearly owned & operated by the Vogue folks), and in all honestly when I look at their sites I don't see much in the way of variety of types of girls, services offered, rates, etc. So I at least applaud the idea behind Hush as trying to bring something different, though I'm extremely skeptical as to if it will be anything other than effectively a 2nd Vogue location. Time will tell I suppose.

Rates are a tricky subject that is a lot more complex than I think many conversations I see on here would imply. Seeing SPs is significantly more expensive now than it was say 10 years ago (heck, even 5 years ago), no question about that. Obviously the pandemic had an effect that contributed to that. I'm personally very fortunate in that my personal financial situation is dramatically better than it was pre-pandemic so I've largely just been able to absorb the increase, but for many/most folks (both clients & SPs) that's not the case. Cost of living/inflation has skyrocketed as well, and whenever that happens A) people who work in service industries (like SPs) raise rates to help offset that and B) discretionary spending on things like seeing SPs goes down. What I find interesting is I often hear clients complain about how seeing SP's is so much more expensive yet they still see them, and I see SPs complain about how things are so "slow" now as they don't see the same volume of clients as they used to (arguably because of higher rates). You'd think those two forces would cause a correction in pricing, but in practice it doesn't seem to. If I were an economist I'd find studying this absolutely fascinating as it all just seems so counter-intuitive me.

I suppose another factor is that supply has significantly changed in Victoria. Look at Leolist & Tryst and while there are still SP's here the number of them is definitely decreasing, and of the ones who remain, many are older. To me there's a sense of more SP's leaving the industry than joining since the pandemic. It's harder and harder to find a great SP and that's a trend that's been going for awhile now. So maybe that's at least partly it -- supply has decreased, demand is same == increase in rates.

There's always been a suggested correlation between rate and quality of service (ie "you get what you pay for"), but I've never found that to be particularly true. When I think of all my ATF's (such as ones who are no longer around like Sadie Rose, Danica Summers, Electra, or ones who are still around like Lola Bunni, & Lexci Lust) almost universally they were/are all mid or in some cases lower on the side of rates (or at least have options for lower-cost sessions) and few had "extras" as we know them today All of them seemed more interested in finding consistent regulars than "a quick buck". Almost without exception when I've splurged on a higher end SP I've regretted it.

What I do see is a strong correlation between cost & body type/age. Spinners cost more, and perhaps some clients equate "banging the hot 19 year old spinner type" as "better service". I don't. I'd rather be with a curvy older girl who knows what she's doing & is actively engaged in making the session as memorable and enjoyable as possible than the model-type who does nothing other than lie there & get you to finish ASAP.

More anecdotal observations: I spent more money last year (2023) on escorts than any other year before (and I've been seeing SPs for a very long time). The vast majority of that spending was on SPs I'd seen before (ie before 2023) that I was repeating with (ie SPs for whom I was a "regular'), and in fact about a quarter of my spending was on one SP in particular. In 2024 I'm currently on track to spend less than half of what I spent last year, and of the SP's I've seen only one have I repeated with this year, and only two others are ones I'd seen before 2024. That is: the vast majority are with SPs I've seen once and not repeated with. I wonder if others have similar experiences?

Having said all that (wall of text apologies), I don't for a second blame the SPs for the rates of today. Obviously somebody's paying those rates (and TBH there are some extremely wealthy people in Victoria), so if they can demand those costs, good for them. It does mean though that some clients are being priced out of this hobby.
 

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That is: the vast majority are with SPs I've seen once and not repeated with. I wonder if others have similar experiences?
Since post pandemic i can only afford SPs a few times a year so its always a 1 time event. Pre pandemic id always see a girl at least twice and there were several i was a semi regular with
 
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I thought this thread was about a new place Hush and maybe talks of hope they inspire some really hot ladies to come visit.. but by all the complaints about the rates I highly doubt they would want to.
It's a changing world and it's happening fast..
You do know that your paying for more than just her body right..with all the only fans and escorts Instagram girls are realizing that there's things in life that they are most likely not going to have.
The likelihood of at the end of their career to get married and have kids is gone we're not talking about missing teeth Crack whores..we're talking ladies trying to make the most money to help set themselves up.. get real there's not much paved roads coming from this industry..you pay for discretion to remember that. They have to survive the rest of their lives hoping that there is. For anyone complaining about the price try and realizing that this is a very small industry.
This isn't thailand where the population of BC is the amount of escorts in Bangkok.
We all live our lives. So if you want to do what to her in her life, the price is always up to her either pay or not but you really don't have the right to say it's not worth it. Everything has a price no matter even if it didn't make up to your standards.
 
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I love the Victoria agency scene and am very grateful for it. With the exception of Montreal imho there isn't anywhere else in Canada with the same calibre of GFE providers. A lot has indeed changed in the almost 20 years I've been active. With Onlyfans and the SB scene exploding in recent years there are more options, particularly for younger women who are't necessarily interested in being full-on escorts. For me personally the "golden period" was probably SVIPs between about 2013 and 2018-- though I'm honestly quite happy with the calibre of women available right now. IMHO Vic is packed with gems at the moment.

At the end of the day this is fundamentally a luxury hobby and what's really (sadly) changed in Canada in recent years is sharp drop in the percentage of the population that can expect to have the sort of disposable incom required to regularly see providers (or look forward to owning a house, if you're a young person). At the end of the day more options in Vic can only be a good thing.
 
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No I was serious.

In fairness to me I have been back East for the past 18 months

Maybe not to the current state of affairs, but simply the fact we have them. Where I am right now in Ontario the Agencies are Club like atmospheres and usually its a shower a massage, and a handy. And that can run you up to 3 hundy Non AMP
I think Victoria is probably better than some places, but I know that in other provinces I've lived in, even now, the going rate for an hour of GFE hovers around the $300-$320 mark, compared to $400-$420 here, which amounts to a pretty significant, roughly 30% rise in price. Do not get me wrong, I've met wonderful humans through the agencies in Victoria, who have made life taste sweeter, and I've been grateful for the time spent with them. But I've also noticed differences compared to other places I've lived, and not all of them positive.

Of course there are heaps of wealthy people who live here and distort the market, and that's exactly what it is; a market. You can't get mad at an apple for being a certain price, any more than you can an apple bottom booty. It's either worth the price of admission to you or it's not. Setting a price is a crucial decision that any seller makes, knowing they'll lose sales if the price exceeds what the market will bear, as there will always be those who can't, or don't want to spend the money. Some SPs I've talked to actually welcomed losing the type of clients who hang out on the lower end of the wealth spectrum. Think about that next time you're shitposting a provider over their prices.

The opposite is also true, the buyer also has to agree on that suggested value, or else a deal doesn't happen. In an age where capitalism has a bit of stank on it, the best thing left about it may be the consent. If you don't want to spend your money, nobody's putting a gun to your head, cause at the end of the day capitalism depends on two consenting parties agreeing to work together on solving a problem they each have. One, the lack of money, and the rest of us, lack of dat apple. It really is that simple.
 
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