need better agency than fox den

[Asian Fever]

i visit velvet in downtown vancouver there was no bed.

Velvet hasn't worked in a couple years at least, but regardless, all of our Incalls have beds.



It's not actually that dark but I have to turn the exposure down to capture the LEDs and Starlight projection. The rooms are pretty bright honestly, and yes there are mirrors.

 

[happymoments]

Would it be easier for us if you just told us which agencies you AREN'T banned from first?

Well Played LOL

And OP throwing shade at AF was kind of outdated unless it happened fairly recently. If anything, pointing fingers at AF for tight time slots etc maybe more reasonable but in their defense, they gotta do what they gotta do when Ladies like Kim and Rina are booked for days... They can't please everyone but they're doing what they can for majority to get a bit of fun...

TBH, I dont think OP is a bad guy, just his blunt honesty is getting him a bad rep instead of being the gentleman he claims to be.

@amirtava you can also browse through the perb's ad section. Some of the other agency's are VME and Coco, Luxxxe. Good luck and try to be more tactful so you're not completely banned out of Vancouver LOL

 

[milemiles]

I am really loving the “no bed” claim.

So what did you do? Lie on the floor? Sit together crosslegged on the floor and eat ramen instead?

I mean what did Velvet say when you said “where’s the bed?” “Sorry bed is an Extra. Bed is the same as CIM”. And what did the handler say when you texted to say “theres no BED” “oh sorry. You wanted a bed? Most guys don’t. All our photos on our website are accurate. Do you see a bed in any of them? Full refund if you can show me a bed in any of our photos.”

I can imagine a scenario where you were so rude to Velvet she didn’t want to go into the bedroom with you, so you never saw a bed.

 

[bc.]

I am really loving the “no bed” claim.

So what did you do? Lie on the floor? Sit together crosslegged on the floor and eat ramen instead?

I mean what did Velvet say when you said “where’s the bed?” “Sorry bed is an Extra. Bed is the same as CIM”. And what did the handler say when you texted to say “theres no BED” “oh sorry. You wanted a bed? Most guys don’t. All our photos on our website are accurate. Do you see a bed in any of them? Full refund if you can show me a bed in any of our photos.”

I can imagine a scenario where you were so rude to Velvet she didn’t want to go into the bedroom with you, so you never saw a bed.

You know nothing beats the hard floor and feeling one with the earth you know. Very organic experience 😛😛

 

[CocoCollective]

One other thing, if you have 2 or 3, even 4 girls on your roster, you can hardly call yourself an agency. That eliminates VME, Coco, Luxxe, TempGF. The top handful of agencies I have used in other cities have 10, 15, 25 or more women on their roster. Only Carmen Fox has that here and see previous comments about how lousy they are. AF is a decent choice, if you are into Asians. So call it 2 real agencies in Vancouver.

we have 11 girls on our website and a few not on website and about 20 girls if we are being asked about bachelor parties of models to choose from……

 

[happymoments]

One other thing, if you have 2 or 3, even 4 girls on your roster, you can hardly call yourself an agency. That eliminates VME, Coco, Luxxe, TempGF. The top handful of agencies I have used in other cities have 10, 15, 25 or more women on their roster. Only Carmen Fox has that here and see previous comments about how lousy they are. AF is a decent choice, if you are into Asians. So call it 2 real agencies in Vancouver.

Interesting perspective... I may not be as experienced or well versed and knowledge so thanks for sharing your POV. It is appreciated and puts it into perspective. However, I do look at things relatively and appreciate what we have as we are here and cannot compare to other cities such as Montreal or Toronto. They have way more population so if you scale it back down as well, its still an agency. IE no different than a costco in DT offering way less than the bigger locations such as Richmond and Burnaby.

In my perspective, I feel it's an agency when they perform under an umbrella, have a handler, a website, professional photos, with non shared incall, and screening, and a handful of ladies working on the same nights / time. Now you may say some agencies do not have a tougher screening practice etc but thats all relative and subjective. Maybe the eliminated agencies dont fit the criteria, but sometimes agency or not, we are really only looking for the blissful session with a variety of ladies to choose from and VME, Coco, Luxxxe, AF, TempGF have all had satisfying experiences (give or take the rude banned dudes LOL). Carmen being one of the Well-known / arguably Top Agencies and not seeing tons of raving reviews on here makes feel they are less of an agency (no shots to Carmen, just preference) and further helps me understand why people rather support local small ma pa indie shops and middle sized supermarkets and grocer chains than mega block buster corp level businesses.

On that note tho, At least we have AF to choose from, and confirmed there are BEDS (I suppose it's also a requirement to be an Agency LOL).

we have 11 girls on our website and a few not on website and about 20 girls if we are being asked about bachelor parties of models to choose from……

Ouuuu

Noticing a lot of increased ladies and expansion into other areas so that's awesome!!! Definitely helps for the people in Kamloops etc especially when I passed through recently and noticed they dont have much options out there lol

 

[finglong6]

Velvet hasn't worked in a couple years at least, but regardless, all of our Incalls have beds.

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It's not actually that dark but I have to turn the exposure down to capture the LEDs and Starlight projection. The rooms are pretty bright honestly, and yes there are mirrors.

Wow... I feel the itch to book a visit just because of your room set up XD

 

[MixedDude]

Yeah so never been to Carmen Fox but I have heard it can be hit or miss. Generally their better ladies tend to go on to have great careers elsewhere.

Just looking at the ad you posted the link to. Real or not, you can see that the girl is not what you describe. On top that and in addition to your poor command of grammar and punctuation, the way you throw shade at the agencies who have chimed in to help you makes it only logical that you are having a tough time finding a place to go. Maybe work on yourself first and then think about venturing out into the world to do anything else.

Shout outs to AF, VME, and Coco though. I've had great times at all of these.

 

[amirtava]

Fox den use to have good girls working there but good ones don’t stay there for too long Like Tulip Fox she was best

 

[amirtava]

One other thing, if you have 2 or 3, even 4 girls on your roster, you can hardly call yourself an agency. That eliminates VME, Coco, Luxxe, TempGF. The top handful of agencies I have used in other cities have 10, 15, 25 or more women on their roster. Only Carmen Fox has that here and see previous comments about how lousy they are. AF is a decent choice, if you are into Asians. So call it 2 real agencies in Vancouver.

I agree with you

 

[manilagorilla]

i can’t say i’ve ever been there but, that’s a shame.

 

[Johnnydarkdoe]

Interesting perspective... I may not be as experienced or well versed and knowledge so thanks for sharing your POV. It is appreciated and puts it into perspective. However, I do look at things relatively and appreciate what we have as we are here and cannot compare to other cities such as Montreal or Toronto. They have way more population so if you scale it back down as well, its still an agency. IE no different than a costco in DT offering way less than the bigger locations such as Richmond and Burnaby.

Vancouver has a way higher population than Montreal. It also has a way higher population than Edmonton and Calgary, which both cities have healthy agency and SP scenes. There is just something about Vancouver that makes high quality SPs not keen to work here or they almost double their rates when they do.

 

[milemiles]

Yes - you know what is much bigger priced in Vancouver than in Calgary, Edmonton or Montreal? Real estate. Whether it’s incall or outcall, someone has to pay the rent.

 

[happymoments]

Vancouver has a way higher population than Montreal. It also has a way higher population than Edmonton and Calgary, which both cities have healthy agency and SP scenes. There is just something about Vancouver that makes high quality SPs not keen to work here or they almost double their rates when they do.

Hmm Vancouver has a higher population than Edmonton and Calgary for sure, and I havent been to Montreal but comparing Vancouver and Montreal cities, according to Google and other stats I briefly looked into, Vancouver had a smaller popluation, including Greater Metropolitan areas. I have heard from people Montreal is way more fun and seems less dense but I couldnt find any info.. However seems like all those ladies there love coming here for the coin too...

As MilesMiles says, Vancouver Real Estate is through the roof which is exactly why the rates gotta go up. The only thing that isnt rising here in wages LOL

 

[GreatJJ]

Montreal pooning is way more sophisticated ran there.
High-end ladies will never consider here.
Men are considered cheap out here. Whereas those areas mentioned above, men are willing to pay more even if they are getting less.
This is coming from SPs mentioning this.

 

[amirtava]

that’s true you can’t compare montreal agencies with Vancouver i need a trip to Montreal

 

[MixedDude]

Montreal pooning is way more sophisticated ran there.
High-end ladies will never consider here.
Men are considered cheap out here. Whereas those areas mentioned above, men are willing to pay more even if they are getting less.
This is coming from SPs mentioning this.

I have heard this too but more from Alberta ladies when I lived out there.

You pay more out there but unlike with the Montreal ladies you generally get what you came for.

 

[Number17]

Montreal pooning is way more sophisticated ran there.
High-end ladies will never consider here.
Men are considered cheap out here. Whereas those areas mentioned above, men are willing to pay more even if they are getting less.
This is coming from SPs mentioning this.

Your claim doesn't totally add up. When East Coast SPs tour in Vancouver, they ask for higher rates and they do return since there is a demand even though at a higher rate.
For example, Camille and Stacy from Montreal work at VOG. There rates are $240-260 according to VOG website. When they come here at WCA, they now charge $500/h and they still get lots of business. They come back multiple times a years. Men aren't cheap here. We're just picky. When we find the right SP, we're willing to pay the high price.

 

[24herbs]

Like i can’t find a good agency looking girls with clean incall.. asian fever i dont like ur incalls you don’t even have proper beds stop replying my posts

Now if people dig up some old posts you'll know how I feel about Asian Fever so you'll know I wouldn't say something positive if it werent true. In my experience I've never run into one of their in calls without proper beds nor were anyone of them "dirty". In total I've been to ateast 3 diff buildings and possible even more suites.

 

[ploplayer228]

Now if people dig up some old posts you'll know how I feel about Asian Fever so you'll know I wouldn't say something positive ifbit werent true.

They do have beds. Basic set up without proper clean sheets tho.
Most of Asian Micros (not just AF) are the same way, at least in my experience.

I have super sensitive skin that gives me rash if beds/sheets are not clean. If it wasn't my hornyness, I would avoid Asian micros 😤