Need Advice: sold used car

[goalieman]

Just need some comments or legal advice regarding the following:

I sold my car a couple weeks ago privately. I told the buyer what was wrong with the car, what needed fixing, what was done to it recently, etc. Buyer took the vehicle to a mechanic of his choice to get it mechanically inspected. He got the results and bought the vehicle. Did the transfer of vehicle papers, etc.

Today, he has his friend call me up to say that when they were taking apart the engine component, don't ask me why, they said that they found a broken rod in there probably from when the timing belt was changed previously. I told them I had the belt changed at a licensed mechanic shop and was never aware of the damaged rod. I changed the belt probably in 2003 and haven't had any mechanics mention anything about a damaged rod. I'm not a mechanic myself and never suspected anything wrong. The car passed aircare. The car ran fine, even did 2 long trips to Edmonton and numerous trips down to the states.

So now, the buyers friend wants me to pay for part of the repairs to the rod. I told him that I sold the vehicle to him on Good faith and was never aware of the damage to the rod. I told him that he had the vehicle mechanically inspected by a mechanic of his choice. I told him that he bought the vehicle "as is".

Am I not right? that once we shake hands and finalize the deal then i have no financial responsibilities with that vehicle anymore? Can he sue me over damages that I honestly did not know about?

concerned...
Goalieman

 

[Billy123]

The car is sold without warranty. It has been inspected before it was sold. Thst is it.

 

[LonelyGhost]

unless it was written into the contract he's got nothing on you.

most 'used' items are considered 'as is' and unless you had stated
to him that you would cover any problems he is on his own.

and it seems like a bit of a scam to me that the car could
actually make it to the mechanic with a broken rod anyway ...

its now his car and his problem.

 

[Randy Whorewald]

Buying a used car is a caveat emptor (buyer beware) situation. I think he may try to sue but its not likely a judge will agree with him. Can't see how his mechanic would miss a broken rod.

 

[westwoody]

Broken Rod! Tell buddy to take a hike.

 

[*JR]

A broken rod is pretty easy to pick up on if the car is still running, there is alot of grinding and banging, any mechanic should be able to pick up on that.

 

[gravitas]

Oh no!!! Can you post his name and phone number so we can get a trust fund set up at RBC to help pay for the repairs and what I'm sure has been serious mental anguish?

Sorry, still working out some sarcasm. Tell the buyer to piss off.....if he wanted a warranty buy new.

 

[shapeshifter]

Oh no!!! Can you post his name and phone number so we can get a trust fund set up at RBC to help pay for the repairs and what I'm sure has been serious mental anguish? .

Don't forget the "friend" who made the phonecalls for the traumatized buyer, he might be out of pocket for pay phone expenses and god only knows what mental anguish he has suffered witnessing his buddy fall to pieces over his recent car purchase!

I agree, tell the guy to piss off

 

[Mr Blonde]

whenever i sell anything used i offer the prestigious #2 Guarantee

2 minutes,
2 feet,
2 F*****G Bad

 

[goalieman]

thanks for the advice guys.. keep them coming.

i ended the conversation with... i'll think about it and call you back in a couple days...

should i call back? or just ignore the calls? or wait till he calls back?

 

[gravitas]

should i call back?

If you said you'd call him back then call him back. Tell him that you've had the time to think about the situation and like 99.999% of all private used vehicle sales the car didn't come with any implied warranty. Don't apologize for what's happened but stay polite.

 

[PerazziDave]

what to do

Call the gentleman up and be kind and respectful. Tell him that Gravitas said he could piss off and that's good enough for you.

I'm such a bad bastard, PD

 

[sdw]

Just need some comments or legal advice regarding the following:

I sold my car a couple weeks ago privately. I told the buyer what was wrong with the car, what needed fixing, what was done to it recently, etc. Buyer took the vehicle to a mechanic of his choice to get it mechanically inspected. He got the results and bought the vehicle. Did the transfer of vehicle papers, etc.

Today, he has his friend call me up to say that when they were taking apart the engine component, don't ask me why, they said that they found a broken rod in there probably from when the timing belt was changed previously. I told them I had the belt changed at a licensed mechanic shop and was never aware of the damaged rod. I changed the belt probably in 2003 and haven't had any mechanics mention anything about a damaged rod. I'm not a mechanic myself and never suspected anything wrong. The car passed aircare. The car ran fine, even did 2 long trips to Edmonton and numerous trips down to the states.

So now, the buyers friend wants me to pay for part of the repairs to the rod. I told him that I sold the vehicle to him on Good faith and was never aware of the damage to the rod. I told him that he had the vehicle mechanically inspected by a mechanic of his choice. I told him that he bought the vehicle "as is".

Am I not right? that once we shake hands and finalize the deal then i have no financial responsibilities with that vehicle anymore? Can he sue me over damages that I honestly did not know about?

concerned...
Goalieman

The car simpley wouldn't have run if there was a broken rod. It is possible that the bearing was worn, however that's normal.

It would be different if you had lied about an accident and they discovered there was damage that affected the safety of the car. Normal repairs aren't something someone can come back on.

 

[visiting]

the buyers friend wants me to pay for part of the repairs to the rod. I told him that I sold the vehicle to him on Good faith and was never aware of the damage to the rod.

I would have said 1 of 2 things depending on my mood.


1. Laugh, and hang up the phone.


2. tell the guy no problem, I would gladly pay for the rod, and ask how much the repairs will cost? and then tell him to collect that amount plus (a 20$ finders fee for him) from his friend who purchased the car, as now his friend has car with a perfect rod, then start laughing!



This has happened many times, that is why you don't sell your car to your friends, and well that is actually why you want to buy a car from your friends.... make sense? Not sure what the warranty is with car dealers,(on used cars) but it is short! Nevermind private sales, and you even told him what you knew was wrong!!! If you would have tried to hide something, then the depending on what it was, he could have tried to make a case for hidden defect, (when he found it) but you told him so I think your in the clear. I would certainly not loose any sleep over this, but if it helps you, next time he calls, have this on your voicemail

http://www.ilovewavs.com/comedy/AnsMach/AnsMach - Operator, that number has been changed.wav

 

[Juggy]

He blew any chance of a warranty the minute he decided to take apart the engine. Like Hello. Thats like calling microsoft cause you broke your xbox trying to install a mod chip.

 

[maxx50]

What did they do to it ?

Once you have sold it to them .. you never know how they have been driving it .. over reved the engine .. or any thing under the sun .. in the last few weeks ,
The fact that a friend phones , that is working on the moter ... is a red flag right there ... if some thing broke they should have taken it to a licenced mechanic then maybe they would have a expert oppinion to back them up ... But I can;t see where the engine would hve run very well if it had a broken rod. it would have sounded like shit.
But then again .a it all dependes what they payed you for it .. and how much they want... do you think it is worth it just to know that you treated them fairly.

 

[hitrack]

WTF is this fukk-tard doing taking the engine apart to the point where he's down to the connecting rods?!?!?!?!

Be polite and say sorry bro, the sale is final and as is. If you wanted a gurantee you should go buy from a dealer.

 

[rockstarmunkey]

Oh no!!! Can you post his name and phone number so we can get a trust fund set up at RBC to help pay for the repairs and what I'm sure has been serious mental anguish?

Sorry, still working out some sarcasm. Tell the buyer to piss off.....if he wanted a warranty buy new.

LOL... I just spit out my coffee

 

[CalgaryJenn]

I had the same experience with my 92 Geo Storm after it died on my birthday last May. The guy comes by I told him the starter and possibly the timing chain went on it, he even came back with his 2 family members that were mechanics and they said all was good. So I took another 300.00 off to be fair and we went our seperate ways.
The next day he calls screaming at me saying Canadian Tire mechanics said there was $2500.00 worth of work to be done to it to fix and he expected me to pay for half the repairs. my attitude " Fuck that" as I had sunk $4000.00 into it from day one after paying $3500.00 for it. My attitude is dude you showed up here, with 2 licensed mechanics tough brake, your second mistake was taking it to Canadian Tire to get work done on it.

Feel no guilt and go your seperate ways, it's his headache now. Normally I am fair, but in this circumstance, tough tittie said the kitty!

 

[ezsmile]

Why didn't the buyer phone you?
I think the friend of the buyer or both are trying to scam you.
Did it go like this?

"Hello, I am a friend of the person you sold the car to. We were working on it and found there was a damaged rod, and since you didn't say anything about this when you sold it, we think you should be paying for part of the repairs. Let's arrange a time and I'll be by to pick up the money for my friend. Sometime later today would be great."