my olive branch - what is the best things about the usa?
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Well and rightly so, after all, it is our birthright. If you choose to not admire us, then you're just jealous. We're more graceful, have more refined taste, and are generally higher class. We admire each other too, a lot. Let the little people pay the taxes, I say. They aren't for everyone!Herb_The_Perb said:
Yeah, but what the hell, we can afford it, we're America.....Herb_The_Perb said:
P.S. - Terrorism isn't about oil. If the US went 100% nuclear energy tomorrow, they would still want to blow us up. One point we do agree on, though - SUVs are butt ugly. They sure are great in the snow, though...
Interesting. I hate to generalize, but I think that is typical of what most Americans believe; they hate you because you're a rich superpower.russel4339 said:
"They" hate you because they see you as a nation of enforcers, who will do anything, including occupying their holy land, to protect your own financial interests. Most in the west can't even conceive that their motivation might not be money related.
It's pretty fucked up that practically the entire Arab world hates the U.S., and most Americans aren't even curious enough to move past their simplistic assumptions and actually question why.
Question what? Huh? What are you talking about?dexi said:
They hate us because we're free. They're not free. We're free. They have to wear black all day even in the hot sun, that's how unfree they are. We can dance around almost naked if we like. They can't elect their leaders, but we can elect very very very smart people to lead us, like yours truly and Dick.
You are right, I agree - everything is about money and security. I agree. If we were 100% energy dependent, we would probably never have to bother with that area again - until they started trying to kill each other like in Somalia or Bosnia were we have shed blood to keep muslims alive.dexi said:
As for looking for reasons why they hate us - one is that they are fed a stready stream of anti-American propaganda by their goverments who would rather have the people blame America than their own goverments. Sure, we screw up sometimes, but hey, we typically try to do the right thing.
If America was really this all imposing super power, wouldn't the first thing we would have done is to take over Canada and grab it's natural resources? You are close... would be very handy... we might not want Quebec, but the rest would be helpful.
As long as we stay 4 feet away from the customers, in Seattle.georgebushmoron said:
But hell, all the hip people in seattle wear black too, including me.
Does this mean we're not free?
You mean freedom isn't on the march?
(And don't forget Poland!)
Do you think they are hotter, or easier, than Canadian women?wolverine said:
Overall, the women in Vancouver are the best-looking on the continent, IMO
And the SPs are among the easiest on the pocketbook.
For the sake of accuracy...dexi said:
-"anything" you say? Man, you don't sweet fuck all about history or the history of great powers. Not that it justifies stuff, but by the historical standards of behaviour exhibited by great powers in the defense of their own interests, the Yanks are pretty damn mild. Personally, I'd hate to have the French or Chinese running the world, but that's just me.
- "occupying their holy land". What occupying is that precisely? How many American soldiers patrol the cities of Mecca and Medina pray tell? And I would point out that all American forces in Saudi Arabia are there by invitation, and they are hardly "occupying" Saudi Arabia. But by all means, continue to blabber idiotic generalizations lacking any truth or substance.
- "money related." Ah yes, that idiotic shibboleth again. You go right on believing that. While you're at it, consider believing in the tooth fairy and the Easter Bunny too.
Actually here is the real reason, straight from the horse’s mouth, why they want to blow you up. Very sobering reading, but you’d never hear that in the media where you’re fed mass quantities of overly simplistic cookie cut news spin sound bites that we’re “fighting terrorists who hate democratic freedom and apple pie.”russel4339 said:
Osiris said:
1. yes
2. yes, and a whole host of german scientists captured at peenemunde!
3. no ... oppenheimer ... einstein's theory but oppenheimer's reality: "I am become death!"
4. yes.
5. all Canadians ... and the list goes on.
6. they have a president instead (need I say more?)
7. they don't know Canada did it ...
8. so did the Bible Belt ... interesting.
9. and they still call one of them "caddy"
10. yes ... reagen, bush and bush lite!
LG - you have made a compelling case why America is so great. All of these very smart people needed to leave their country of birth and come to America to achieve their potential. The number of Canadians with talent, or smarts, or very good entrepreneurs come to America. Why is that?LonelyGhost said:2. yes, and a whole host of german scientists captured at peenemunde!
3. no ... oppenheimer ... einstein's theory but oppenheimer's reality: "I am become death!"
5. all Canadians ... and the list goes on.
Hotter? Well, not really, it's no different from here. But there is a lot more of them, that's for sure.Herb_The_Perb said:
Easier? Most definitely! They are more approachable, they absolutely swoon over foreign guys (yes, even Canadians) and in several cases, they are the ones making the pick-up moves instead of me (and even more astounding, they are neither drunk nor homely). Mind you, this is based on my personal experiences in the States.
3. Without theory, there is no reality. That's my theory and I'm sticking to it.LonelyGhost said:3. no ... oppenheimer ... einstein's theory but oppenheimer's reality: "I am become death!"
5. all Canadians ... and the list goes on.
10. yes ... reagen, bush and bush lite!
5. I meant to say, William Shatner, Jim Carrey, and Jack Warner of Warner Brothers.
10. Only in the US would you find Bill Clinton with a bush on either side of him.
The people in the Third World including Islamic counties hate us because they are uneducated.
It's easy to convince an uneducated person to die for "King and Country", "God" or any other stupid reason. The proof is the number of men that slipped into Canada to fight in WWII. The average education at the time was no higher than grade 5. The men who slipped into Canada in the 60s and 70s weren't doing it to fight. Average education at the time was grade 8. Three years more education is the difference between rushing to certain death at Dieppe and not wanting to go to certain death in Vietnam.
The easiest way to make the world safe is to set up schools.
It's easy to convince an uneducated person to die for "King and Country", "God" or any other stupid reason. The proof is the number of men that slipped into Canada to fight in WWII. The average education at the time was no higher than grade 5. The men who slipped into Canada in the 60s and 70s weren't doing it to fight. Average education at the time was grade 8. Three years more education is the difference between rushing to certain death at Dieppe and not wanting to go to certain death in Vietnam.
The easiest way to make the world safe is to set up schools.
Is that all there is to it? WOW. You've solved a major world problem then!sdw said:
Why the hell are we wasting so much money with roughly 1/2 of over 700 military deployments worldwide in the 3rd world? Those freaking bases are expensive! All we have to do is replace them with much cheaper schools... after all, fuckin crayons cost nothing compared to cruise missiles!
Yeah let's educate them! Teach 'em to do the Lord's Prayer every day when class starts and then the Oath of Allegiance. Those ignorant bastards, that'll teach 'em.
