My day

[stroker]

I did call the police and asked for a lady cop who I know works with sex trade workers and of course they are not in until Monday. I said I was in a situation today and pondering over what to do and told her I would call back on Monday. I figured that cop would be more understanding then a regular cop. I am hesitant about having the police contact him because I do have an in call and he could very well come here one day or anything as after today he has now proven himself to be untrustworthy. I feel like I should think carefully about whether to talk to the police or not because I am the one with my name and number out there and in the future he could get a hotel or call from another number as anything is possible and I don’t want to go around pissing people off especially unstable people. He is obviously off his kilter so I shouldn’t piss him off further and calling the cops might do that. Just because I call the cops doesn’t mean I will be protected from future harm of this man. The police will take the info and start a file, possibly contact him but they can’t do anything further unless he contacts me again in a harassing or threatening way basically they can’t do something until it is too late. We have all seen it before. I will never again go to residences unless I know the person. It is to bad that this will effect the good guys who would never hurt a lady. It doesn’t happen often but occasionally I do get calls to residences. From now on it is hotels only.

It is my understanding that I can’t charge anyone all I can do is report it and it is up to the police to lay a charge if they so choose, I can suggest it though.

I have to go take a breather from this for now but I will let you know what the police say. I just wish I wasn’t alone tonight. I just feel very sad. I guess I have been lucky in the past 9 years. I should count my blessings and think about getting out of the business while things are good. Time heals.

Thank you all for your kind words.

Club9,

I can see this has been very difficult for you and you have definitely given this a lot of thought. The truth is, he can still book an incall with you even if you don't call the police. You don't want to piss him off but from the sounds of things, you already have. If he is unstable, he could do anything. I don't want to scare you or anything. I just want you to do what is right for you.

Good luck.

 

[Miss*Bijou]

Club9 -

Thank god you are ok.. I'm sorry you had this happen to you. I am glad you decided to contact the police. I've heard of a few different instances when sp's have had to contact the police to report assaults or stalkings.. I believe everyone's experiences were positive when dealing with police officers. If you feel the need to talk to someone and don't know who to talk to, please don't be shy and contact me. PM, email, phone.. whatever you prefer. I think it's really important to get it out and have someone who will just listen and let you talk about it as much as you need to.




Susi -

Thank you for providing a contact at VPD but I have to say I was shocked to read your advice against contacting the police... It is the police's job to handle these types of situations regardless of what their personal opinions might be. The fact is that their own moral beliefs or judgments and that whether or not they agree with whatever lifestyle choices she may have made, is 100% irrelevant and inconsequential. Furthermore she was not even doing anything illegal, so even if that were one of her worries (which it should not be), in this case it would not even need to be a consideration. Perhaps I misunderstood the reasons or the advice given, but I feel it's goes completely against what you seem to be trying to gain and the changes you advocate for.


I don't want to hijack this thread, but I do feel it's actually relevant to this discussion, as I'm truly baffled and quite confused. I can't say I've ever once read anyone advising against reporting any violence or threat to the police. This is serious business, and not only does deciding against reporting it give a false impression that this kind of thing does not happen, it also does nothing to improve the isolation most sp's face when no one in their circle of friends or family are aware of what they do. I understand you don't trust the police but I think they deserve more credit and this course of action does nothing to improve dialogue or relationship between sex workers and police. In my opinion, it is not a solution that can result in any change or improvement. I find it incredibly sad and am a tad worried that someone working for change would advise an sp who has just been assaulted to mistrust the police and remain a powerless silent victim.

Perhaps I misunderstood..? because I'm sorry -maybe that's just me- but I just do not feel it is a positive way of working towards change.

 

[Miss*Bijou]

At the time I keep thinking this just isn’t right and I should protect myself and not let him get away with this and I wanted to fight back but I was aware that my long nails hinder and don’t help and also that my heels are not as stable as sneakers. I am so glad now that I didn’t fight back as I probably would have made it worse. I didn’t want to be taken advantage of. I felt ripped off more then assaulted.

Thank you for the replies and for doing it in a classy way. I realize that there are many ways to look at every situation and I am just trying to see if there are others views that I can learn from here. I may not like or agree with what you all have to say but it will give me and others reflection for thinking on procedures for our business so your input is valuable. I hope we can all speak freely without judgment.

I think we all react differently when in a situation like this, and there's no way of really explaining it, it just is.. There's no way of knowing how any of us would react or what thoughts would go through our mind if put in a situation of extreme stress. The adrenaline kicks in and we react. It may not make sense to someone else, or even to ourselves in hindsight, but it doesn't need to make sense or be explained. While one person might have frozen completely, another might have reacted by confronting the guy and further angering him, maybe making him hurt you even more. The only important thing is that you managed to get out, shaken up, but at least safely.


http://tinyurl.com/49ad2b

 

[club9]

Are some of you over reacting?

Ok define assault. Perhaps I wasn’t clear but he didn’t actually out right punch me that I can recall. It happened so fast and was painful but I always thought assault was beating someone up. He threatened with the metal bar and swung it all around me and put it in my face but I don’t recall his hitting me with it. He never punched me or slapped me which I think makes an assault. When I tried to leave he grabbed my arms and wrists and then smacked my arm down away from the door handle and shoved me away from the door which sent me flying. He had done this to get me away from the door as I still had $150 that he paid me. When I went to another door he had his hand on my arm pulling me back so I wouldn’t leave in which yes it hurt badly but there is no broken bones or blood. I backed off because there were long narrow stairs by this door and I didn’t want to fall down them in my heels. My upper chest hurts on the right side but I don’t recall getting any blows there. He shoved me back into the living room and swung the metal around my face so I went were he wanted. If we were in a hotel room I would have just made a run for the door as once out in the hotel lobby you are pretty much safe and if anything happens there are cameras. His yard was closed in with shrubs and I was scared of being hit with the metal bar or anything once out in his driveway. I didn’t want him smashing at my car either. Maybe once I was outside he wouldn’t have made a scene who knows. If I did get outside it could have also angered him further to get his gun if he did actually have one.

The police are going to ask me if he punched me or anything like that which would be classified as an assault and I feel awfully stupid and embarrassed for this even happening in the first place. So I am going to walk in and say to the police officer no he didn’t hit me but he wouldn’t let me leave with his money $150 when he didn’t get laid so I got hurt while trying to get out the door because I thought since I was naked he wasn’t entitled to a full refund. Maybe I am wrong but it just seems to be the kind of thing that doesn’t get reported. If he had out right punched my face or something like that I would definitely call the police right away and go to the hospital. This is why I wanted opinions. Lesson learned the hard way and I will not go to residences anymore and always give money back if asked.

 

[Markl]

http://www.duhaime.org/LegalDictionary/A/Assault.aspx

 

[DQ Guy]

There in lies the problem.
Not a lot of these cases get reported. No one Man or woman has the
right to do what this guy did. Assault can be defined as anything
Physical, no matter how small. It's a lot easier to prove when there is bruising
but for case sake, it all lies in the hand of the one being assaulted.
I pushed a guy one time at the bar and he charged me with assault..
just remember if in any way you felt threatened and were touched in
a forceful way thats assault. no matter how small.

 

[Markl]

Actually, a balled fist, drawn back ready to strike someone is assault also, as defined by law. So surely swinging around a metal bar while threatening some is also assault.

 

[Thais]

Are some of you over reacting?

Ok define assault. Perhaps I wasn’t clear but he didn’t actually out right punch me that I can recall. It happened so fast and was painful but I always thought assault was beating someone up. He threatened with the metal bar and swung it all around me and put it in my face but I don’t recall his hitting me with it. He never punched me or slapped me which I think makes an assault. When I tried to leave he grabbed my arms and wrists and then smacked my arm down away from the door handle and shoved me away from the door which sent me flying. He had done this to get me away from the door as I still had $150 that he paid me. When I went to another door he had his hand on my arm pulling me back so I wouldn’t leave in which yes it hurt badly but there is no broken bones or blood. I backed off because there were long narrow stairs by this door and I didn’t want to fall down them in my heels. My upper chest hurts on the right side but I don’t recall getting any blows there. He shoved me back into the living room and swung the metal around my face so I went were he wanted...

Print this out and bring it with you to police. In fact, since you are going to tell them all the details about the incident, you could as well print this whole thread and bring it with you - as a proof of your reaction and interpretation over time since it happened. Ladies, this is just my hunch about printing this - any opinions on this?
They will ask you what happened and that is the perfect description, from the way you felt immediately after to how it continued to get processed in your mind.

From the link given by Markl:
"The threatened touch of another person with an intent to harm, without that person's consent."
"An assault can be committed without a battery and battery can occur without an assault preceding it. For example, swinging at someone and missing is an assault but not a battery. Striking someone from behind, without his or her knowledge, is a battery but not an assault."
"The common law limited assault to threats of imminent harm only; once contact was made, the offence become battery."

You were assaulted. Full scale. You just weren't really battered. Were there any bruises? Take pictures if there are!
And yes, actions like this should be reported - otherwise, what hope do we have of ever stopping people like this?

It is very stressful for you. I am so sorry you went through this! But we are definitely not overreacting.

 

[susi]

Club9 -

Thank god you are ok.. I'm sorry you had this happen to you. I am glad you decided to contact the police. I've heard of a few different instances when sp's have had to contact the police to report assaults or stalkings.. I believe everyone's experiences were positive when dealing with police officers. If you feel the need to talk to someone and don't know who to talk to, please don't be shy and contact me. PM, email, phone.. whatever you prefer. I think it's really important to get it out and have someone who will just listen and let you talk about it as much as you need to.




Susi -

Thank you for providing a contact at VPD but I have to say I was shocked to read your advice against contacting the police... It is the police's job to handle these types of situations regardless of what their personal opinions might be. The fact is that their own moral beliefs or judgments and that whether or not they agree with whatever lifestyle choices she may have made, is 100% irrelevant and inconsequential. Furthermore she was not even doing anything illegal, so even if that were one of her worries (which it should not be), in this case it would not even need to be a consideration. Perhaps I misunderstood the reasons or the advice given, but I feel it's goes completely against what you seem to be trying to gain and the changes you advocate for.


I don't want to hijack this thread, but I do feel it's actually relevant to this discussion, as I'm truly baffled and quite confused. I can't say I've ever once read anyone advising against reporting any violence or threat to the police. This is serious business, and not only does deciding against reporting it give a false impression that this kind of thing does not happen, it also does nothing to improve the isolation most sp's face when no one in their circle of friends or family are aware of what they do. I understand you don't trust the police but I think they deserve more credit and this course of action does nothing to improve dialogue or relationship between sex workers and police. In my opinion, it is not a solution that can result in any change or improvement. I find it incredibly sad and am a tad worried that someone working for change would advise an sp who has just been assaulted to mistrust the police and remain a powerless silent victim.

Perhaps I misunderstood..? because I'm sorry -maybe that's just me- but I just do not feel it is a positive way of working towards change.

when i charged the man who tried to kill me, i delt with the whole system. now i'm shaking...fucking PTSD!!!
from the police to the prosecutor to the judge, they were all absolutely inept.
the man didn't even have a lawyer, so the man who tried to kill me got to question in open court. do you think a " clean" girl from kitsalano would have had to endure that? no
also, the prosecutor did not produce the weapon or any of the pictures of my injuries that i had provided her with or the hospital report.
the judge aquitted the man stating that he specifically did not believe me, i was not credible.
on to victim's services- we don't qualify for victim's compensation- the reason? because they cannot attribute our trauma to one specific event- so we've been raped too many times and there fore do not qualify

the reason i warn people about dealing with the police is i know how bad it can be- i went through a year and a half of re-living that night for it to be thrown in my face and my would be killer to go free.

because of this experience i worked to initiate a number of actions including the sex industry worker safety action group in partnership with vpd.

i went to the police board 5 times in one year to beg them to stop their assault on exotic show lounges- they would go in 20 at a time in uniform and push everyone around under the guise of undermining organized crime. the took dancers in costume outside on the street!!what the hell were they thinking?!!!

currently i have been named in an extortion case where a former madame is legally bullying myself and another sp and still even after all my work, they don't believe me or her and are helping this woman harm us.

i believe in working towards change and believe that we must work through these difficult issues, however change has not happened yet and people should be aware of what they may face if they choose to engage the system.
that's all, for me... if i could do it again... i would not have reported and i would not have gone through the system. it made my recovery so difficult and dragged it out for so long.

we have to choose what we will spend our energy on in this life and this type of thing will take over your life if you let it.

positive change is coming though- the sex industry worker safety action group have a number of great projects on the table including;
community policing partnership car- to employ one sex worker and one police officer- this will mean some one from our community will be the one to take the reports of violence and will ensure fair treatment for sex workers dealing with police.
policy/ procedure mannual revisions- currently their are no policies or procedures in place to ensure our protection, so they just do whatever they want.
professional development package- to make sure officers are aware of new policies and best practicesfor dealing with our community.
1-800 reporting line run by sex workers- so you know you won't be judged when you call
bad date data base- so officers can take the report and enter details into the computer and it will show any similar incidents or maybe even identify these guys.

i will post the 411 document- it explains exactly what sex workers can expect when dealing with the justice system after being the victim of a crime.

susie

 

[AA_Train]

I have NEVER trusted the police and never will. While I'm not advocating using a weapon, I do think some kind of mace or some kind of instrument that can hinder and/or incapacitate might be a good idea for all women to have handy, even with well-established clients. Also, I wouldn't do house calls unless a client is REALLY well know (eg a regular for at least a year), stick to reputable hotels. If they don't like it, tough shit. No client is worth your safety or your life.

Police aren't just ambivalent to cases involving SPs but all of them. That's why murderes and rapists get 5-10 years in most cases when their crime warrants much harsher sentences. Police are more concerned with making traffic ticket quotas than dealing with real crimes; too much paprerwork .Our justice system favours the perpatrators, not he victims. Cops are goons. Use them like goons. Inform them of your situation so they can keep an eye on him and so if he pulls this shit again, they will be more likely to respond and perhaps help the next lady he pulls this stunt on (hopefully he doesn't)

 

[westcoast555]

call the police... he's unstable

Where to start?

I can’t stop shaking as this has never happened before. I went to a call today and the house was disgustingly dirty. The guy apologized and said that he was a bachelor and new it was dirty and hoped that I didn’t hold it against him. He was polite and seemed to mean well. His English was not very good. I thought about leaving but thought well I am here now and it is only a half an hr and not every job is perfect. If you are given lemons you make lemonade. I have learned not to judge in this profession as some of the most disgusting looking clients turn out to be the best. We chatted for a bit and he took his penis out of his pants and stroked it, he wouldn’t get undressed, when I encouraged him to, he said he was shy. I went to touch his penis and he said he prefers that I don’t. This was just so weird. He said that he can’t get upset in anyway or it wouldn’t work so I just did what he wanted and undressed while he stroked his penis. He wanted me to lie on the bed but I didn’t want to because he had no sheets and the place was so dirty. I asked him for a towel to put down he said he didn’t have one and by the looks of the place I believed him.

He previously mentioned a bj and I thought perfect because this way I could kneel in my shoes and not touch anything. He still kept saying that if he gets up set in anyway it won’t work and he would lose his erection. So everything was going his way so far and he like me but I pleaded that the bed was dirty and I was uncomfortable to lie on it. I feel that just because he is paying me I don’t have to do everything he says. I provide a great service and was willing to fs and bj to him I just didn’t want to lie on the bed when he wasn’t even willing to take his clothes off. It seemed that the more info I got as things progressed the more uncomfortable I felt as it was getting weird. I had never been in a house like this before and had this happen. I don’t know if other women take direction like this but I was uncomfortable with the fact he wouldn’t let me touch him and he kept his clothes on which were very dirty and he wanted me to lie naked on the bed and fuck me with his clothes on. I have had guys keep their shirts on but never their pants.

I don’t know what happened next but he was yelling at me because I asked for sheets on the bed and he had his cock back in his pants and was yelling that he wanted his money back. I got dressed as fast as I could and said sir I will keep some of the money for my time here and expenses to get here. He then pulled out some kind of metal bar and threatened to hit me with it, I tried to leave a few times from 2 different exits and he shoved me around each time keeping me confined to a small space. I got hurt with each shove so I just backed off. He picked up the phone and said do you want me to call the cops I said yes please do as I was scared and had never been in this position ever before.

He had paid me $145 in bills and $5 in coins. I had placed 145 back on the bed like he asked and he said no all of it. I said I couldn’t find it and to let me out as I had friends who would be showing up if I wasn’t back. He wouldn’t so I dug in the bottom of my change purse and got the coins out as he paced around threatening me with this pipe. He continued yelling and I didn’t know if I was going to get hurt further or even get out of there. I had told him a lie to try and get out. I said my pimp will be here but that wasn’t true as I am an independent. I also said I can send my friends back here after I leave if he causes me any harm but that was a lie too as no one knows what I do.

I have no one to talk to about this. Now that it is over saying I should have never gone doesn’t help. Please give constructive critism/feedback only please. Really is there a better way that things can be handled when this kind of situation arises? I have gone over and over it in my mind and it just happens so fast you really don’t have time to think. I have never had any conflict before and get along with everyone. I realize some people just have issues and I could have just been at the wrong place at the wrong time and that shit just can happen sometimes. I know tomorrow will be a new day but today I am incredibly sad and scared. Should I call the police? I just need to vent please don’t judge me or think this is another scam. I am just looking for discussion only. Talking about it can only bring knowledge which will help us sp’s in the future. I keep thinking that I guess I can look at it as fuck the money it was only $150 and let go of the fact that he was very wrong to treat me this way. I should be happy that I didn’t get hurt further and that I got out with my life because he kept claiming he had a gun. There is just so many ways to look at the situation. I can change my phone number, move and put him on a black list but really it feels like he still wins.

I got out with my life and pretty much unharmed with the exceptions of few bruises and soreness. As I go over this I am trying to look at it from his side of perspective and I guess he would feel that he didn’t want to be ripped off because he didn’t get laid. A nice man would have given me $20 for my time when asked and not made threats or shoved me around. Ladies what do you do when this happens? I have been in the business for 9 years and never had this happen so if you think it won’t happen to you, I don’t want to scare you but it just might happen like it just did to me. Please can we discuss how to protect ourselves and how to deal with these situations? I am now thinking if I had a weapon like pepper spray it might have worked but if he got it away from me or if I dropped it as anything can happen and what if it angered him further and he used it on me or what if he had really hit me hard with that pipe. Sometimes it is best to just give the money back and not fight. I did the best I could with a bad situation. I have often thought car keys are a good weapon but you know at the time it never crossed my mind.

Thank you for letting me vent my horribly upsetting day. Once again, talking about it can only bring knowledge which will help us sp’s in the future.

He needs to learn he can't treat people like that. I think you will find that the police will not be as judgemental of you as you might fear.

Next time if there's anything weird about the guy... listen to the red flags and stay away. There are enough decent, sane, clean guys - you don't need to put up with that nonsense.

He threatened you, assaulted you and attempted to confine you. You owe it to yourself ( and anybody else who comes into contact with this creep ) to contact the police. You did nothing wrong. He did.

Alternatively, if you have some 'friends' who are of the 'persuasive' variety you might get them to go and 'talk' to him and 'explain' to him that his behaviour is unnacceptable.

This guy might really hurt the next girl he sees... talk to the police ASAP.

Just my advice.

 

[IMBCK]

I am sorry to hear that this happened to you! Please let not only the police know, but other SP's, and other agencies such as WISH, PACE and PEERS

http://www.peersvancouver.org/

http://www.pace-society.ca/

http://www.wavaw.ca/

Also, please pm me his number, and applicable details. Thanks.

HUGS

 

[Miss*Bijou]

Police aren't just ambivalent to cases involving SPs but all of them. That's why murderes and rapists get 5-10 years in most cases when their crime warrants much harsher sentences.

Sentence severity and duration aren't determined by police?

 

[club9]

Yesterday I just felt ripped off and scared. Now you tell me that I was assaulted. Fuck I am really getting angry right now reading this. I don’t know whether to cry or kick something over. I hate this. I also feel really stupid and haven’t even bothered to pick up the phone and call anyone because I just feel to much like an idiot for not even knowing the full meaning of assault.

 

[AA_Train]

Yesterday I just felt ripped off and scared. Now you tell me that I was assaulted. Fuck I am really getting angry right now reading this. I don’t know whether to cry or kick something over. I hate this. I also feel really stupid and haven’t even bothered to pick up the phone and call anyone because I just feel to much like an idiot for not even knowing the full meaning of assault.

Well I don't think that was anyone's intent. You shouldn't feel stupid in anyway and on behalf of everyone here, I apologize if you were made to feel as such. This is a stressful and difficult situation and in our attempts to help might of come off as judgemental. We all know how to react to a situation when we're not the ones going through it. It's a scary situation which has the potential to end horribly. We all just wanted to help and didn't want you to feel worse than you already feel. Take some time to absorb what has happened before you make your next move. It's a tough spot but don't be afraid to reach out to someone if you feel you need it.

 

[club9]

OMG! I am freaking out again. I finally called a friend tonight to talk about what happened. I told him all the details and I described the house to him and he said it was obviously a drug house. I was shocked and it makes sense as to why everything was the way it was. I can’t believe how naive I was/am. Having seen the big metal pipes all around and all the other things like no beds in the rooms and only a hide abed with no sheets in the living room, there was a table against the bathroom door and when I pulled it away and opened the bathroom door there was garden hoses on the floor and I thought what the heck kind of house is this but I had no idea as I don’t know anything about drugs. There wasn’t much furniture and what was there was displaced and so dirty. I now realize I am so lucky that there wasn’t other people in the house as men could have come up from the basement or anything. This makes me recall the sensation that I just knew seeing the stairs to the basement left me feeling very uneasy and I can’t explain it. There was something about that basement that haunted me. This man also seemed to be under disguise as he had a recent very poor die job to only the top ¾ of his hair, it was almost like a wig and I keep looking at it wondering why he did that. Anyways my friend explained to me that hoses are needed to make crystal meth or for a sprinkler system for a grow op. fuck now I am even more scared and feel lucky that I got out unharmed. This really explains this bad mans behavior. I told my friend about ringing the front door and there being a bigger then normal peep hole but he came out from the side door to let me in and once inside I could see a wire to the peep hole and there was a chair pushed up against the door. My friend explained that people push the button and so many rings are different codes and that is why the door was probably wired. There were big cooking pots in the kitchen but no other dishes and I recall thinking that was odd to just have pots with nothing else. I have no doubt now that this was a house used for drugs and that leads me to believe there was probably truth to his claim of having a gun. This house being a drug house would explain why it was so dirty and there were no kitchen or bathroom towels or linen of any sort.
I am even more scared to report this now. My friend said if I report this nothing would happen right away as they would do surveillance for at least a few weeks. They might already know about this place and it makes me sick to think my car was parked in the driveway. I guess I did have protective guardian angels around me that day because this could have turned out so much worse and here I thought it was such a horrible day but now knowing this is a drug house it probably turned out the best that it could have. I probably shouldn’t say to much more about this publicly.


AA_Train no one made me feel bad or stupid. I just do and it isn’t anyone’s fault.

 

[AA_Train]

Sentence severity and duration aren't determined by police?

No, but their testimonies and the evidence they collect can determine the outcome of a case. Police are the front lines of the justice system and the dedcisions and judgements they do and don't make can impact peoples lives. The police are a good ol' boy network. They only protect the interests of those who protect theirs.

 

[trackstar]

No, but their testimonies and the evidence they collect can determine the outcome of a case. Police are the front lines of the justice system and the decisions and judgments they do and don't make can impact peoples lives. The police are a good ol' boy network. They only protect the interests of those who protect theirs.

The police have absolutely no say in anything past placing someone under arrest. All responsibility and decision making after the arrest comes from the Crown. The Crown will decide whether are not there is sufficient evidence to press charges or not, whether or not to take the case to court and then in collaboration with the offender's defense counsel, decide whether or not the offender will plead guilty and plea bargain or if pleading innocent and found guilty, the Crown will request a sentence to a judge, who will either agree to the sentence or impose one that he/she may deem more fitting.


The sad reality of this case (If it is in fact real (No judgments here)), is that it is one person's word against another's, not reported immediately after the alleged crime (which does have bearing in the investigation) and would be seen as a very minor offense, most likely not worth pursuing due to the severity of the offense and lack of sufficient evidence.

The reason why you should still report the crime is to create a paper trail against the offender. When minor crimes begin to pile up, the police begin to take notice and the Crown begins to see him as a repeat offender. Who knows, maybe you will be the 14th sp to report the same crime against him. The other possibility is that the police may already have a hard on for this guy and are just looking for an excuse to bust him.

I do understand Susi's concerns, but I doubt that you will be put through the ringer as she was, as I said, because this offense is "relatively minor" in comparison to what the police and Crown deal with on a daily basis.

 

[Sinfull Delight]

sounds..

spunds like youre pretty new at this..
after year in the buz i can say.. that your safety is much more important then money..
as far as im concerned in this business ((no offence pooners))
i TRUST NOTHING of whats said to me.. if i dont like it.. i aint doin it!
You should have left after seein the conditions of the house.. at the end of it, you're a high class escort not some cheap nasty hoe whos willin to get fucked on a bed with no sheets..
next time.. just trust your gut instinct IN THIS INDUSTRY THERE'S NO ROOM FOR BEING NICE..
BE THE GREATEST sp you can be treat your clients as nice as you can.. but unless they can give you the same respect back.. ex(clean house, safe environment, clean clothes etc..).. dont trust anything but your instinct!

hope it never happens again.. and for the record YOU SHOULD ALWAYS have a driver with you or a buddy whos willing to be around just in case...



cheers love pm if u need anything

 

[trackstar]

You have good advice here... but.. remember... don't let one asshole, discourage you from the 98% that are pretty good guys...

glad you are ok

This is exactly what should discourage you from the business. If you are having this much trouble coping with what happened to you, then you should think long and hard about what you are doing. Every sp here understands that there are risks involved with what they do. What you did was careless and you have no doubt learned a valuable lesson and luckily escaped with your life.

Should you decide to stay in the profession, talk to the other girls here that do outcalls. They have safety plans and do not stray from them and neither should you!

Now that you are safe and have received compassion from everyone, here is a dose of reality: DON"T DO ANYTHING THAT STUPID AGAIN!!!! Fuck the money, fuck jerks being able to get away with ripping you off, fuck trusting people you do not know!!! Hire a driver/bodyguard for outcalls if you have to do them. Stay away from places and people that look shady. If it feels even a little bit wrong, bail on the date. Come up with a safety plan that borders on paranoia. Like I said, talk to the other girls here and actually take their advice!

If you are not ready to take the steps to protect yourself, then this is not the business for you. Even smart girls get hurt or wind up dead. If that is something that you are not prepared to deal with, then your scare should be the last one you ever should have to see in this profession. That 2% are the ones that make a lot of girls go back to school or start the old 9 to 5. God bless you girls, but the shit you have to potentially deal with sickens me. Would somebody please set this girl up with a couple of your frail regulars?