Mustang GT

[georgebushmoron]

Ok folks I'm in the market for a new car. Now I have never bought domestic in my life (owned over 10 cars). When I think of a dream car within what's possibly affordable, I tend to think of things like a BMW 3 series or Nissan G35. Been saving my dollars and driving a used 11 year old piece of crap, and now almost ready to buy something new.

So my beer-bellied buddy and I were driving down the street on Lougheed when he eyes the Ford dealership on the passenger side. He says, "hey ya seen da new Mustang yet buddy? Let's check it out!!!" . I said no way, I never buy domestic. So being who he is, he gets all bellicose and starts yelling right away, and my being the quiet thoughtful type, can't stand it and know I have to give in or else he's going to never shut up until we get to our destination. Also, he owns a bunch of Ford trucks and stuff like that (he has no need for a one ton truck, but that's what he uses to buy groceries) so I figure he has good experience with Fords. So I turn around and head to the dealership.

Though I'm the one who might buy, my buddy grabs the sales kid and asks to drive the GT convertible (lime green, standard shift). So I stand there and my buddy winds up his arm ready to wallop me on the back as he yells out (he only yells), "WELL WHADYA WAITIN FOR COMEON LETS GO MAN", and I anticipate it this time and manage to avoid the blistering back slap. So I meekly sit in the passenger seat and notice the heavy door closing to an assured thump and seal. Hmm. Not the kind of Fords I used to remember.

Long story short, half way back on the test drive, my buddy remembers that it is I who is the prospective buyer and gets his big beer swilling ass out of the driver's seat for me. I take the wheel and I'm in for the surprise of my life. So tight. So much fucking power. So damn visceral. No fucking apologies, damn straight mother fucker. GRRRRRR

When it's all over, the veins are bulging in my arms. Man and machine are one, little girlies. I gotta get me one of these.

So we leave the dealership after lots of talking with the pimply faced sales kid, whose last job was probably delivering pizza. During the drive to our destination, my buddy jeers at just about every other car on the road except Fords and goes on and on in his tyranical way about how great Fords are, etc. He also threw in a few "back in my day" comments when before he hurt his back and his wife became the Goodyear Blimp and the three grubby little snots came along.

So hey guys, what do ya think. I'm used to quality and reliability. I'm willing to trade in the snob factor of a BMW based on the muscle car feel of the Mustang, something which I think is quite unique to it and BMW will never have (I guess). Is Ford quality really good these days? Or will good ol' American ingenuity disappoint me once again?

 

[n2supersymmetry]

Just my opinion but I'd rather push a BMW than drive a ford.

 

[maverick73]

Dude, the American car strategy is to purposely build parts that fail after a certain time/mileage. That is how they make their money. The cars are priced about 10-15% below comparable imports to attract customers that have short term (not long term) money management skills... the kind that live pay check to pay check... they pay less now, but more in the long run... whether in the form of unseen repairs or resale value... not to mention lesser driving enjoyment and overall value... how many of those original mustang 5.0 GT's do u still see on the road? U know, the ones that were really popular when Vanilla Ice was singin' "rollin' in my five point o with the rag tag down so my hair can blow?" ... not many! Now, take a comparable import from that year (around 90-92 I think it was???) and you'll see many more still on the road.

Dude, friends don't let friends buy domestic... sorry, but if u buy this stang, i dunno if we can be friends any more man

I would go with the G35, BMW 3 series, or even the new Mazda 6 (0-60 in 5.5 ain't too shabby) over the Stang... personally, what I recommend is getting a 05 used model ... it's best to buy a used car 1 year old privately... that way the original owner pays the GST and the most depreciation (in the first year of a car)... that's what I did... I saved about $15,000 compared to a new model and seriously, the car was like new...

try to avoid dealers unless it's an economy car because you'll be paying GST... that extra 7% is very significant on higher priced cars...

Anyways, ultimately, you will need to base your decision on what suits you... some guys just like being in a Mustang for the coolness factor... so u can be like Al Bundy and Steve cruising Highway 1... lol...

PS I was just kiddin' earlier... we can still be friends, even if u buy the stang... but only part time friends

 

[n2supersymmetry]

Hah ..... i am still awake, mav ..... *falls flat on his face*
Mood: desperately trying to keep awake after too much whiskey
Music: "queer" by Garbage
Status: Passed out ...

 

[Burnaby_Guy]

Fords, Bimmers, Etc

I would go with a 2 year old Lease returned BMW 3 series, Audi A4, or something like that. Instead of going to a dealer I alway go to an Auto Brokers/Leasing Agent as they can find anything (new, used, off-lease) and are usually about 10% less than a dealer. I agree that the new STANG is really tempting (I thought about it before I got my 2 year old lease returned German Sport Sedan too!)

Good Luck.

BG

 

[shawn]

How about Japanese?

For a combination of luxury and speed I like the G35 and the Acura TL. For pure speed you can't go wrong with the Suburu Imprezza STI or the Mitsubishi lancer EVO

Don't get me wrong the Mustang is a great looking car, the Camaro coming out next year ever looks tastier, but after five yrs, you are looking at Mechancal problems

 

[Willie263]

Mileage

With the price of gas these days GBM, ya better think about mileage. I bet the Mustang will cost ya 50 - 100% more in gas... and if ya do a fair amount of driving that a couple of $100/month these days.

I used to drive for a living, my new 88 IROC cost me $3 - 400/month back in those days, when gas was like 40 cents/litre. That car would cost me $1000/month now in just gas...

 

[mustangjoe]

I'm the expert on this matter....

I'm sorry, but Mustangs are out.

MustangJoe gives the Mustang 2 thumbs down.

I've also noticed the typical driver of a Mustang these days is an East Indian in his early 20's.

And Mav is right.. Of course it's a smooth ride now, but just wait 2 years and the thing will start falling apart and you'll leave every parking stall behiend with more tranny fluid and oil on the pavement then in the car.

 

[James]

Ford hasn't built a 5.0 litre Mustang for at least ten years. They went to a 4.6 litre motor back in the mid - 90s. No stats to back me up, but I'd bet that, percentage of sales-wise, there's as many ten year old Mustangs out there as there are ten year old beamers.

They're good looking, handle well, and far less expensive than most of the imports.

Gas mileage? If you're looking at a Mustang GT / Camaro / whatever in this class, fuel mileage isn't your concern. But count on a combined city / highway mileage in the low 20mpg range, unless you're really heavy on the foot. If you want the looks less some performance, and therefore better mileage, buy the model with the little motor.

I'll disagree on the "Average Driver" and maintenance comments as well. Mine's run fine for a long time, with regular oil & lube type maintenance.

No I don't sell them. But I do drive one.....

 

[kehoe]

Ford hasn't built a 5.0 litre Mustang for at least ten years. They went to a 4.6 litre motor back in the mid - 90s. No stats to back me up, but I'd bet that, percentage of sales-wise, there's as many ten year old Mustangs out there as there are ten year old beamers.

They're good looking, handle well, and far less expensive than most of the imports.

Gas mileage? If you're looking at a Mustang GT / Camaro / whatever in this class, fuel mileage isn't your concern. But count on a combined city / highway mileage in the low 20mpg range, unless you're really heavy on the foot. If you want the looks less some performance, and therefore better mileage, buy the model with the little motor.

No I don't sell them. But I do drive one.....

I agree. Almost everyone is making a good car now. Gone are the days of the Vega, Pinto and Yugo. The newest Mustang is gorgeous, powerful and reliable. I don't know of a car that will perform and look as good for anywhere near the money. The amount you save on the sticker over the expensive imports I'm sure would more than make up for any perceived premature repairs. If I didn't rely so much on my truck (Ford btw) I would definitely be looking at the new Mustang as my preferred mode of transportation. I am a little biased because I have been a Mustang lover for many many years but who could argue that Ford didn't hit a gargantuan homerun with this model? There is even a 500hp Shelby model that will be out in the fall (if not already out) that absolutely kicks ass!

 

[metoo113]

My last Ford was a 77 pinto cruising wagon that was a piece of shit. The one good thing about it was that with the rear seats folded down you had a really comfortable lying down spot in the back. More then enough room for two people to be comfortable.

The first bad thing about it was after the first 10,000k's the clutch cable broke through the firewall. Then it started to burn oil like crazy and at 23,000k it needed major engine repairs.

Since then I stay with Honda and Mazda and Toyota. Their quality control is much better then anything I've bought from a domestic manufactor.

F: Fix
O: Or
R: Repair
D: Daily

 

[mr. ed]

Price Point, in a performance car, nothing on the road today is better value than the Ford Mustang GT.(performance being the operative word). Also , people who genericly slag North American built automobiles should give their head a shake because their eyes are stuck. All manufacturers have winners and losers, I just happen to drive what drives our economy and that my friend is North American built where profit and jobs stay in North America. I also buy domestic food, drink, clothing etc. in an attempt do do my part in helping the local economies. I must cut this rant short as my neck is turning a little red.

 

[Quarter Mile'r]

George, I'm glad to see your looking at domestic, give this a thought.

The new Challenger is coming out this fall with a 6.1 liter hemi, if gas
mileage is your concern don't bother if it ain't go for what will clean up
any domestic car on the road.

If you decide on the Challenger I can't wait to meet you at Mission
Raceway!

I never was a Phord fan but when I saw the new mustang I must admit
it does look pretty cool. Now if you want the chick magnet I would go with
the Challenger hands down.


...........QM'r

 

[Rain Man]

buying a ford

I just bought my 6th Ford in a row after buying 3 Toyotas.

The big difference for me is price. You get a lot more car for less when you buy domestic. Is quality worse, yes probably. If you plan on keeping the car for longer than the warranty, buy the extended warranty. If not, don't bother, you will be covered as long as you own the vehicle.

 

[hitrack]

I say if your not buying the car for practical reasons then go for it. A V8 RWD cars is more fun than free pussy!!

IMO don't bother saying my 77 pinto was a POS so I'll never buy a domestic again. Everything made in 77 was a POS. Hell my 1990 Chev was a POS, but that was still 16 yrs ago.

The japs definately have a cheap to run cheap to buy smooth running car down pat. Took the americans alot longer to catch up.

No point mentioning BMW and Audi if GBM is looking at a stang. Unless stangs are now $50,000, which they aint.

Nothing kicks ass like a new car with zero kliks on the meter. But a good used 1-2 year old car is still virtualy brand new. The 1st owner sucked up all the GST and loss on selling a 1 year old car.

When it comes to import and domestic the gap is tightening, more and more jap models are being built in the USA.

One last thing....why anyone would buy a car and sell it a year later is fukkin well beyond me.

 

[Rain Man]

But a good used 1-2 year old car is still virtualy brand new. The 1st owner sucked up all the GST and loss on selling a 1 year old car.

One last thing....why anyone would buy a car and sell it a year later is fukkin well beyond me.

Agreed but it happens all the time.

 

[mick_eight]

mustang

Good for you GBM buy american , its like driving a harley instead of a honda. And you know which one the babes like!!!. There is hope for you yet

 

[Sonny]

Buy an extended bumper-to-bumper warranty with any vehicle you plan to own for a long time. It is excellent insurance. Even if you might sell the vehicle earlier than warranty expiry, the warranty is transferrable and adds value on resale.

The combined warranties on my vehicle saved me thousands. Most of the bad s**t happens between years four and six. After that it is just stuff that is associated with age and use with any vehicle.

So with the original warranty and the extended warranty together, does it matter whether you buy domestic or foreign? Nah!

Buy what you damn well want, cuz you'll never pay for repairs anyway for six years!

 

[georgebushmoron]

Why I am looking at the Mustang seriously:

1. I won't owe any money if I buy it.
2. I will owe money if I buy a Bimmer.
3. The Mustang is fun.
4. I've owned a '95 325i in the past. It was great, until it broke down. Then it cost a whole lot of money to fix. A whole lot.

Perhaps I should look at Japanese. The new Lexus IS is a head turner. So is the G35. I haven't test driven either yet though.

But let me say one thing: that GT drove like no BMW or Jap car I've ever driven before. The only way I can describe it is like having blood filling every vein in your body when you're pounding away at pussy and she's holding on for dear life!

 

[maximus]

dont do it

sorry you will be disapointed in the long run with a ford,in 5 years your jap car will still be headache free but the stang will not be the same as it was new.