Multiple Visits Mileage

[BigEye]

I know there's a somewhat similar thread-'Restrictions' but I though this is somewhat paralel, it may come to life on it's own.

I believe giving is a two way street...the way you treat someone will reflect in what is returened. I am always a gentleman.Period. On first visits with a SP, I open for 'get to know' session but also the most $$, which sometimes happens . This leads to return or abandon SP list for me. With my very ltd poonin budget, this is rare for me.

What I just experienced, just leaves me going ?????
Will NOT reveal name.
Arrive for appt, clean and prepared. Bring along a little 'gift'. Session starts-shower, chit-chat, perb etc... light massage, teasing. Then my turn...flip her onto the table...my 'play' time hehehe.
DOWNHILL FROM HERE! Do not read further if weak...umh...that!
From here on in the mood just flopped! Understand, I'm not into outer limits (greek) or any unsafe boundaries...but... what I expect and >90% get is more features and buttons to play! This was not a tease, though done very tastefully, she would gentilly turn or twist away from me at 'that motion' and whisper not until your more 'regular'. OK, try a little more touching, massaging, compliments, about 10mins later, same boundaries. Then lets have some finishing & she can be on time for her next appt!
It was JUST as restrictive as the 1st visit! L9/A8/S8
Second (this visit) L9/A6/S5.

Well how many visits is it to become such? If this one lady in particular is trying to entice me to return ($$) to see more mileage, my thoughts are she'll be somewhere lower on my list of need to visit list.

My rant & 2cents for now .... B

 

[wolverine]

I find that it varies from SP to SP. Some give you that bang for your buck right from the first visit, due to good chemistry realized at first sight, and she never fails to deliver. One or two others I know started as so-so because of first-time jitters, but from the 2nd visit onward it was whoa-baby! Then are those whose service varies depending on the phases of the moon or you're wearing a beard or not. And at least one SP I know started out great on my first couple of sessions, but then starts phoning it in with subsequent visits and you're in and out in under 30 minutes.

It's all in the chemistry you have with the SP, and if she's genuinely enjoying the time she spends with you. I can overlook things like DATY restrictions and other boundaries if she has other things to offer that keeps me comin' back. I'm more prone to stop seeing someone due to the aforementioned "phoning it in".

 

[BigEye]

In response to some of the above:
edm67-
yes, a user testimonial to the information that PERB can provide.
miss alex-
maybe in my ramble, it wasn't quite clear. This was my 2nd visit with this SP, at 1st mtg, was attempted...no not until next time hon...,not unversed 'extras'.

Yes I'm always aware of the YMMV and she may have an 'off day too. And perhaps slightly low on the second visit LAS #'s.

B-black: you said it! this is supposed to be fun, if this is what to expect...go see the ex-wife - shhhheeewww!

Thx everybody for the PM's of support too.
Dispite those who chose to PM fire also. (much smaller minority)

 

[BigEye]

message to SP's

Please don't lead us to believe something will be there,down the road.
And if your having a bad day, could you discreetly let us know? I would gladly come back when ready.

 

[BS Detector]

Without knowing exactly what was disallowed

it makes it difficult to comment. However:

1. Many guys forget they are dealing with real people here. These are not pillows in Zellers where you bat them around, poke and prod, check for lumps etc. and generally do whatever the hell you feel like doing just because you are paying (not to imply that this happened here, just feedback I have had from many ladies). These are REAL PEOPLE...Someone's mother, sister, daughter.

2. As mentioned, I have found sometimes things improve greatly and sometimes even get worse if the lady is less than ethical and feels she has you hooked.

3. I have also found that regardless as to how many repeat visits, some ladies have things they will NEVER do while WORKING. Most have at least ONE thing they hold onto for their personal relationships. Here in Alberta it appears to be kissing. I have found only one exception. In BC it appears kissing is a given, just expected and not even discussed.

4. As Alex says, sometimes it depends on the individual, hygiene etc. Lets face it...Toilet breath on the 25th visit is no sweeter smelling than it was on the first visit. $1000 in the ladies hand (as opposed to $200) does not turn off her sense of smell. Some of thsose dollars might be invested in a bottle of scope, a trip to the dentist or perhaps to a GI specialist.

5. Perhaps a name SHOULD be posted. Not doing so simply proves a point for those who do not wish to see the ladies on PERB and accuse the rest of us for being less than honest in our opinions.

 

[BS Detector]

Thanks Duff

Like you and Alberta, I have only read about the BC ladies and DFK comes up a lot in the posts so I assumed it was a given or at least pretty standard.

Edm1967...I guess I was asking about the name cuz w/o it, what's the point. Kinda like...Lookout guys. I had a lady show up at my door. She took the money, five minutes later her driver showed up at the door and they left. Can't say who it was cuz I don't wanna get flamed but watch out for her!!!!

If it is factual there should be no flaming. If it is slanderous and w/o basis, of course there will be flaming. We don't even know what it is the lady refused to do here. Maybe a toy the size of a jackhammer was involved, maybe the request was quite reasonable. How can one possibly determine if the lady is worth seeing or not and even if one could...Who does one avoid or not avoid??????

Personally, I don't care who it was or was not anymore as I am backing off but the info might be beneficial to others.

 

[Lauren]

No need to have my name PM'd around... while I do respect the fact that BigEye was discreet in his posting, I also respect the fact that this is a review board and you should be able to comment on what you thought were less than enjoyable experiences without be flamed for it. So... I fess up... his session was with me. I had previously apologized to him if he didn't feel that he enjoyed his session and I hope that cleared things up. Those of you who have had sessions with me in the past know that they aren't what I consider too restrictive, however I do offer certain extras to regulars only and sometimes it might just depend on what I've done during previous sessions that day and whether or not my body is up for it, so to speak. It certainly wasn't a bait and switch situation and I don't need to string people on to get them to come in for multiple visits. It's merely a matter of comfort for me.
BigEye, again... I am sorry if I appeared to mislead you in any way, it was never my intention.

Lauren
xo

Hmmmm.... should I post this or not... LOL. Ah, what the hell....

 

[BS Detector]

Re: And THAT is the one fatal flaw with this board

Suppose at the YXZ MP, that "Fifi" (and I hope to hell there is no Fifi out there or I am a dead man) who is a member of PERB and seems to be well loved pulls off this type of stringing along of the clients.

Would YOU post it with "Fifi's name?

Did it really happen the way one said it happened? Then YES.
Is it a fabrication, attempt to discredit or outright lie? Then NO.

I take it from your comments that if I was rushed out the door in 20 minutes including 2 showers and this happened twice you wouldn't want to know who it was! I agree with Duff too...Most would not feel comfortable PMing. That what the board is for.

 

[BigEye]

Wow Lauren!

you more 'man' than me.
I was afraid to post name, maybe even again under similar circumstances.
To everyone reading: I concur that what happened-she says is 100% true.
Though absolutley, I would post name, phone #,location etc if I were ever caught in a 'grab $ & run' to all the friends out there.
To Lauren: despite the huge # of PM's rec'd-I never revealed your name, though many had it quite narrowed down. Fellow pooners might understand my not answering....I hope you can believe me.
Gotta run, just want this post in order, will follow up soon...
B

 

[Lauren]

LOL.... BigEye, I didn't really think you'd PM my name around, but felt that it was my responsibility to come forward. I realize that some PERBittes may not like the fact that there are SP's on the board and I don't want anyone to think that just because I'm here, I deserve or will get special treatment.... I don't. PERB is a great resource tool for me, I've learned a lot from it and I think that it opens the door for communication between SP's and clients. It's also a great release to be able to talk to other's involved in the business, especially when I am not open about what I do with family and friends.
I've had a lot of great reviews, but I'm far from perfect. I'm a person, I have emotions and while I have chosen this profession as a way to set myself up for later, it can be tough to offer everything to every client that comes in. Physically, I just can't do it and that is why sometimes I like to know that I have a regular before I offer the "extras". Of course I have a couple of restrictions that I never sway from, but we all do and I think the majority of you can respect that. I think I'm pretty honest and upfront about any restrictions that I do have, so that you can decide whether or not I'm someone you want to spend your money on. Often, if someone is looking for a service that I can't offer, I'll try to suggest someone who can.
I don't want anyone to leave disappointed, so of course I feel terrible that BigEye didn't have a good time.... he even brought a gift for me... LOL!!!

 

[candyman]

Of course I have a couple of restrictions that I never sway from,

And what are those , Lauren?

 

[Lauren]

Candyman.... I think you know what those are.... LOL. Do I really need to post it??

 

[BigEye]

Edited Quote by edm1967:
……So is the loss of future income worth leading on a guy?
A little honesty from the SP's is all we ask. If it's that time, tell us. If we don't "click" tell us.
….end of quote

My response and a little more background. This was my second visit. Was prepared ($’s) to see & enjoy a FS session. Knew her boundaries from research & first visit. On this app’t, wanted to share what her ‘regulars’ enjoyed. I am at no time, anything less than a gentleman. I would not ‘force’ an physical issue. Lauren was also gracefull at her deftness of closing the gate,so to speak.

This comes down to a buisness relationship (though a one!
SP’s – you provide a service, we pay!
In this case, it was a loss of potential immediate $’s. To the SP’s teases are part of the allure, but consider this: at what point can we take returning to find additonal mileage? Do you give your all or hold back, with a little more each session? I’ve other favorites who can just raise the bar each time also, despite thinking this just can’t get better also.
On another note: she had just immediately come out from another app’t. Being human, this can probably affect us. Like edm67 says: if it’s not quite the right time, let us know. I would appreciate this honesty by setting up a later app’t.

 

[Lauren]

I completely hear what you're saying BigEye. You've commented on a couple of issues that are difficult for me to respond to, but I'm going to give it a try.
I don't know how to break down how many sessions it will take to give a client exactly what he's looking for except to say this: If there is a specific thing you want that will make the session great for you, and without it you will leave disappointed... ask up front. In this case, it would have saved you some money. Lots of clients want to know right away what my restrictions are and I have no problem telling them. That way, they can make an informed decision of staying or seeing someone else. Perhaps some of you are uncomfortable asking right away, but you really shouldn't be. It's what we do for a living. You're right BigEye... we provide a service, you pay. If we can't offer the service you want, than you have the right to find someone who will.
On another note... while this may not have anything to do with this particular situation, chemistry and clicking with an SP/client has come up several times on the board and this thread. Usually this feeling is a mutual one and can be detected quite easily if it's not. You guys say that you want us to tell you if we don't click?? How exactly should we go about doing this in a manner that won't offend you? Honestly, I would love to get some feedback on this one.

 

[wolverine]

I personally don't expect SPs to explicitly tell me if we click or not. Her actions and reactions tell all. Does her eyes light up because she is genuinely glad to spend time with me? Can we openly converse about many things without awkward silences? Do we go a bit overtime because she's losing track of the minutes? Does she express some attractiveness to me and not make it sound like ego-massaging BS? Does she hint at some interest in meeting me outside of her work hours?

 

[Pussyman]

WTF Just Happened?

How the hell did this thread get sidetracked from the original topic, to this flaming war?... I grow tired of it as well.

Getting back to the topic of Lauren services, I recently had the pleasure of finally visiting Lauren and IMO every good thing said and written about her is absolutely true. She is beautiful in every way. Looks, body, attitude and yes service. I had an idea of what to expect in my session with Lauren beforehand and was complety satisfied with the results. If I was looking for a PSE or certain extras, there's others I could have went to visit that day. I've been in this hobby long enough to know that some SPs will do certain things and others won't. Some clients might get certain extras where others will not. That's the nature of the beast. I realize that the term YMMV is used quite often, but yes it is true. Every gal is different and has her boundaries and I respect them for that. Every one of my favourites provides me with something a little different. I guess that's what keeps this hobby interesting. IE: The search for the perfect SP (If she indeed does exist)

Of course since none of us where in the room with Bigeye and Lauren, it is not fair to say who is right or wrong. What was asked for, what was offered, that's their buisness. Since it seems she does have repeat customers, she must be doing something right? I'm a bit surprised none of her fan club has come forward.

Lauren I do give you a lot of credit for coming forward and admitting it was you and giving us your side of the story. That took a lot of guts. I also realize where Bigeye is coming from when he didn't want to post. Possible fear of flaming or repercussions? Maybe? But no one should be afraid to tell their story if it is indeed the truth. We've gone down this path before about Perb Power so I won't go there.

In closing I want to say to Lauren that I had a wonderfull time with you and will definately be back to see you despite what has been said.

Newest Member of the Lauren Fan Club---Pussyman

 

[Pussyman]

I personally don't expect SPs to explicitly tell me if we click or not. Her actions and reactions tell all. Does her eyes light up because she is genuinely glad to spend time with me? Can we openly converse about many things without awkward silences? Do we go a bit overtime because she's losing track of the minutes? Does she express some attractiveness to me and not make it sound like ego-massaging BS? Does she hint at some interest in meeting me outside of her work hours?

Couldn't have said it better myself Wolverine. But then again what should I have expected from a true veteran as yourself.

 

[Alberta Mod]

Open and frank discussions are fine.....flame wars and mud slinging are NOT!!!!!!

Several of you have been warned about this behavior in the past and have been given a second/third/fourth chance.....those days are over!!! I've had enough of this crap and simply won't let it to continue any further!

If you want to slag someone, share personal information, etc TAKE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE!!!!!!

PERB is supposed to be here as a safe and friendly place to share info and dialog.....PLEASE keep it that way!

AM

 

[BCModVan]

I'm leaving AM's warning in place, and have attempted to delete the worst of this thread. The conversation was good.... the mudslinging belongs in the monkey house. M'kay?

 

[BigEye]

It's alive again!

To Mod's-thx whoever you are.

Didn't intend this to be a mud-slinging thread, just thought a good debate subject. This I feel is much more appropriate-by removing the offending posts within, instead of the entire thread.
My 2 cents
B