MSTICK - Maverick's Speeding TICKet dispute ramblings

[maverick73]

I got lucky yesterday and won a speeding ticket dispute due to the officer not showing up (aaawww... who am I kidding... if he showed up, I still would have stomped him in court )...

Couple observations of note:

1. 1 guy hired a lawyer to say "not guilty" for him even though the officer didn't show up. Of course, he wouldn't have known in advance whether the officer showed up, but talk about overkill... that is like using a shotgun to kill a spider.

2. Some idiotic moralistic lady wanted to plead guilty even though the cop didn't show up. I almost started breaking out in laughter. The judge looked at her and shook her head... trying to give her a hint..finally, the judge just said "PLEAD NOT GUILTY." ... she did, and then went on this rant where she promised she would use it as a lesson and how she felt guilty for pleading not guilty... PPPLLLLLEEEASSSEEEEE

3. Some guy asked a question and was "waving his bottle in the air... like he just don't care" ... judge said to him "well you can start by not waving your bottle at me." HAHAHA... that'll learn him...

 

[DJLAW]

too funny!

you get some of the best stories while in court.

 

[ace85]

So

I got lucky yesterday and won a speeding ticket dispute due to the officer not showing up (aaawww... who am I kidding... if he showed up, I still would have stomped him in court )...

Couple observations of note:

1. 1 guy hired a lawyer to say "not guilty" for him even though the officer didn't show up. Of course, he wouldn't have known in advance whether the officer showed up, but talk about overkill... that is like using a shotgun to kill a spider.

2. Some idiotic moralistic lady wanted to plead guilty even though the cop didn't show up. I almost started breaking out in laughter. The judge looked at her and shook her head... trying to give her a hint..finally, the judge just said "PLEAD NOT GUILTY." ... she did, and then went on this rant where she promised she would use it as a lesson and how she felt guilty for pleading not guilty... PPPLLLLLEEEASSSEEEEE

3. Some guy asked a question and was "waving his bottle in the air... like he just don't care" ... judge said to him "well you can start by not waving your bottle at me." HAHAHA... that'll learn him...

What was the premise for fighting the ticket.

 

[mexman]

Fight them all

I fight every ticket I get, with the exception of parking. It's amazing with a couple of court date changes and such that a good percentage of the time the cop does not show. Loose enough of these and sooner or later you get kinda good at fighting them.
Reasons:

Insurers like clean driving records
Get the 3rd ticket on and see your rates jump, look-out on four
Insurers use a rolling 3 year record
I don't like paying for sin
They seem like cash grabs sometimes
Take note in your area, they are where you are most likely to speed, not where the element of danger is high.
Also, lots of times, most, the same crew works the trap(etown) and hand out way more tickets than there is avail court time.

It feels good to beat the system, claim a lunch as a tax deduction and poon with the money!

 

[GetHappy]

Only reason I would have fought a ticket is if I got Excessive speeding rather than the normal one. Got caught doing 80 at the bottom of a steep hill (everyone else was at 65) where it was uncontrolled and there was a school nearby (but the kids were brats if they were out at that time). She wanted to push it up to excessive, and if she had, I would have fought it. That's my one and only ticket since that was the only time I was caught in a trap. And I think that this one was a cash grab since everyone speeds down that stretch because of the hill (on a good day you can hit 90 just on momentum).

Remember, if you aren't disputing it, pay it early, they take off $25 if you pay it within a month of issuance.

 

[vancouverman]

I never dispute my speeding tickets .. I do speed a lot, and I pay for it .... I prefer to go to a client and make more, than the ticket is worth, instead of spending my time in court. and yes, I do receive "love letters" from ICBC on my b-day ... and yes... I still pay them.

BTW... did you know that speeding ticket is tax deductible business expense?

 

[kat]

one of my favorite is getting the lone cop who has no partner in the car. The court conversation goes something like this.

Me: Did you always have your eye on my car at all times?
Cop: Yes you never left my sight.
Me: So let me get this straight, you endangered lives by making a U-Turn w/o looking?
Cop: Of course not. I checked to make sure it was safe.
Me: So you took your eyes off my car then?
Cop: Well only for a second to check:
Me: Then you cannot be sure 100% that it was my car can you, because it COULD have been another car?
Cop: Well the chances of that is minimal.
Me: But not impossible?
Cop: I guess not....
Judge: Case Dismissed....


ROFLMFAO.......

 

[maverick73]

I never dispute my speeding tickets .. I do speed a lot, and I pay for it .... I prefer to go to a client and make more, than the ticket is worth, instead of spending my time in court. and yes, I do receive "love letters" from ICBC on my b-day ... and yes... I still pay them.

BTW... did you know that speeding ticket is tax deductible business expense?

For me, it's not the money but more the principal of not letting ICBC f$ck you over... One of my strategies is to offer to donate the ticket amount to a charity of the cop's choosing without having a mark on my record... I like having a clean record... although I currently have a clean record, when I was younger I did average 1 ticket per year... for the ones where I was clearly guilty, I paid up... but for ones where I was the only one on the road doing 15-20 over the limit posing no danger to anybody except maybe the bugs hitting my windshield, I have a problem with that... I always fight for what I believe in.

How does the points thing work now? Is it 4 points and over and you pay a premium? And when is it counted? It used to be 17 months prior to your birthday to 5 months prior to your birthday (basically the 1 year period starting and ending 5 months prior to your birthday)

I did not know it was tax deductible.

 

[maverick73]

one of my favorite is getting the lone cop who has no partner in the car. The court conversation goes something like this.

Me: Did you always have your eye on my car at all times?
Cop: Yes you never left my sight.
Me: So let me get this straight, you endangered lives by making a U-Turn w/o looking?
Cop: Of course not. I checked to make sure it was safe.
Me: So you took your eyes off my car then?
Cop: Well only for a second to check:
Me: Then you cannot be sure 100% that it was my car can you, because it COULD have been another car?
Cop: Well the chances of that is minimal.
Me: But not impossible?
Cop: I guess not....
Judge: Case Dismissed....


ROFLMFAO.......

I had a similar case to this in the mid 90's that I lost... where I was driving through some twisties and the cop car was CLEARLY so far behind he would have lost site of me... the judge was a cunt bitch in one of those interior cities with population YOU...

She found EVERY SINGLE PERSON (about 20-25 cases!) in the room guilty... I stayed for the whole thing to take that stat... even for the cases where I thought there was clearly reasonable doubt, she found them ALL GUILTY... it was a conspiracy between her and the cops... they all smiled about it afterwards... and talked in a circle about how they did, how they needed to word things to get a conviction, which ones almost resulted in acquittals, etc... it was low level corruption in the works...

 

[Discombobbled]

I'll always remember this! Once when I was in court the judge and prosecutor got into a spat. The judge said 'I won't be talked to like this' and stormed out of the courtroom. A few minutes later he came back and they got into another argument. The judge stormed out again. A few minutes later a different judge came in to preside. Then we find out the prosecutor wants to delay the matter because the first judge was going to dismiss a case in a different courtroom, and this prosecutor had some hardon to ensure that it wasn't dismissed!! Anyway, our case was put over so these guys could play out their personal bullshit. The court wouldn't even accept an 11b argument we made!

Holy fuckin, dysfunctional bullshit!!!

 

[vancouverman]

.. I like having a clean record... .

lol .... ....

 

[Cock Throppled]

2. Some idiotic moralistic lady wanted to plead guilty even though the cop didn't show up. PPPLLLLLEEEASSSEEEEE

Why would she go to court if she intended to plead guilty? If she did NOTHING, stayed home and paiyed the ticket she'd accomplish the same thing, wouldn't she? Don't you only set a court date if you want to dispute the ticket?

 

[Discombobbled]

Why would she go to court if she intended to plead guilty? If she did NOTHING, stayed home and paiyed the ticket she'd accomplish the same thing, wouldn't she? Don't you only set a court date if you want to dispute the ticket?

Yes she would have, but she probably would have felt guilty about not showing up. She's a guilt addict

 

[maverick73]

Why would she go to court if she intended to plead guilty? If she did NOTHING, stayed home and paiyed the ticket she'd accomplish the same thing, wouldn't she? Don't you only set a court date if you want to dispute the ticket?

I've seen this before... they are either stupid or just really moral and overly honest... I've actually seen a lady plead "guilty with explanation" ... and she got her fine reduced... but she could have pleaded not guilty and not paid anything... and then there was another that pleaded guilty with explanation and then the judge let her explain... and at the end of the explanation allowed her to please not guilty.

Hey, I don't make these people... I just observe them...