So I know I'm the new guy here but after reading through the abbreviation sticky notes and some of the site I keep seeing stuff about girls who charge you more to go more then once. I haven't seen a girl yet because I wanted to look around first but shouldn't it just be a given that if you pay for an hour or more or 15 minutes even that you just get to go as much as you want? Am I wrong about this?
MSOG shouldn't it just be expected?
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I doubt I could I'm a bit older but I thought it seemed kinda ridiculous to charge more for something like that...I'll do more looking and make sure I ask I don't want to get a bad time for hard earned cash
2 times in 15 minutes, yikes !!! I think I would probably feel cheapened after that, lol. I used to offer half hours, and they were not msog. Yes you are paying for time, but I think most sp's want to be treated like people and not just sperm receptacles 
My rates are all inclusive, and msog is included, for all my safe gfe sessions. For everything except my hour erotic massage, and that's only because my focus on that is an intense full deep tissue body massage, and I enjoy prolonging your orgasm. Every person that sees me for massage comes for the actual massage, lol. An hour isn't enough. I would have to alter my rhythm. However if that's what some one wanted and let me, know before hand, I'd be able to accommodate him.
My rates are all inclusive, and msog is included, for all my safe gfe sessions. For everything except my hour erotic massage, and that's only because my focus on that is an intense full deep tissue body massage, and I enjoy prolonging your orgasm. Every person that sees me for massage comes for the actual massage, lol. An hour isn't enough. I would have to alter my rhythm. However if that's what some one wanted and let me, know before hand, I'd be able to accommodate him.
you are right, it should be expected; however, sadly enough, many really don't want to have sex with us, and are only going through the motions to make money - they are the ones that charge extra for multiple shots
sometimes it takes a newby to notice something really unusual about what has become common practice
+1 UFC
"what has become a common practice"
Actually, MSOG is a rather recent phenomenon. It is associated with the rise in independent escorts, and, many independents offer it.
Years and years ago (I am a history buff, and prostitution is of interest to me) men visited women at bawdy houses. They chose the woman and went to the room. They had a certain amount of time to finish the deal and the 'housekeeper' tapped on the door to say when it was 'time'.
At the cheaper houses it was 15 minutes from start to finish. The men didn't bother to take their shoes off. The upscale houses were hourly rates.
Oddly, when men know they have a time limit they seem less able to make the grand finale as often. The stress of it just takes it's toll. Plus, an hour really isn't a long time to be having at it. It is rather a short time for good sex. And on top of it most of the men would be drinking at the establishment too. These places were sort of 'gent's clubs'. The alcohol definitely takes it's toll.
Some even came to drink and didn't book a woman. The drinks were expensive so the Madame didn't mind (prohibition helped!)
So, here we are in 2011. Msog is actually quite common and I read it on many menus. I remember offering it in the nineties and sadly, although many were keen to accommodate, many more were too tired
If you can pop one off at the beginning of the session and rest with some massage you are more likely to be ready for another at the halfway mark and cruise through to the end.
The second one is always better!
good luck
Actually, MSOG is a rather recent phenomenon. It is associated with the rise in independent escorts, and, many independents offer it.
Years and years ago (I am a history buff, and prostitution is of interest to me) men visited women at bawdy houses. They chose the woman and went to the room. They had a certain amount of time to finish the deal and the 'housekeeper' tapped on the door to say when it was 'time'.
At the cheaper houses it was 15 minutes from start to finish. The men didn't bother to take their shoes off. The upscale houses were hourly rates.
Oddly, when men know they have a time limit they seem less able to make the grand finale as often. The stress of it just takes it's toll. Plus, an hour really isn't a long time to be having at it. It is rather a short time for good sex. And on top of it most of the men would be drinking at the establishment too. These places were sort of 'gent's clubs'. The alcohol definitely takes it's toll.
Some even came to drink and didn't book a woman. The drinks were expensive so the Madame didn't mind (prohibition helped!)
So, here we are in 2011. Msog is actually quite common and I read it on many menus. I remember offering it in the nineties and sadly, although many were keen to accommodate, many more were too tired
If you can pop one off at the beginning of the session and rest with some massage you are more likely to be ready for another at the halfway mark and cruise through to the end.
The second one is always better!
good luck
sure, but only if what you're looking for is an experience with a woman who views what she does as receiving money in exchange for allowing you to spend time fucking the agreed upon orifices. If so consider buying a realdoll.. it's a solid investment in never getting the bait and switch, not having to worry about being seen visiting an sp, and msog until the cows come home (cleanup is a cinch with a detachable shower head)
If you want a seductive, passionate, exciting woman to really turn you on and enjoy the hell out of you, do the research, check her photos, reviews, webcopy, and contact requirements (does she need referrals, will you be comfortable giving her the information she will want from you for security) and then make contact. If her msog policy is one that leaves your second goal at her discretion and you are worried she is going to be trying to rush you or demand money midsession for a second shot, just ask her in plain english about it and see how she answers. It is a lot nicer to hear an escort tell you that her msog policy isn't going to apply to you than the other way around. If a client is oblivious to the further discomfort, erectile issues, or possibility of succesfully having sex again, showering, getting dressed, and being out the door in the seven remaining minutes before their time is up... it isn't easy to say "msog is great, so long as you aren't hurting me, totally oblivious to your limitations, or just being unreasonable" in a way that will suit a mans ego.
Fact is, while some people are freakish prudes.. most of the top end escorts here in Van. are motivated in part by a love of sex, and why the hell would anyone say no to good sex twice if they had the time?
my 2cents
Part of the reason may be that many are not capable of more than one shot in that time frame, but might want to carry on banging away in futility for the next 45 minutes regardless. I imagine that some SPs might want to discourage that, it is not exactly refined. So, putting a restriction or added fee on encourages the client to either pace themselves better or be sure that they can actually produce the goods .
.this is no hard and fast rules
every women i guess sees herself as an independent contractor.
and each has there own personality and style and what they believe they owe a man for the money they pay
each women is different,
and i guess that is what makes or can make this hobby interesting, experiancing the different women and what they have to offer
again every women is different but if something is really important to you
ask first. some women are quite open in discussing services rendered others think its rude or afraid of the law and snub you
but no harm in asking
every women i guess sees herself as an independent contractor.
and each has there own personality and style and what they believe they owe a man for the money they pay
each women is different,
and i guess that is what makes or can make this hobby interesting, experiancing the different women and what they have to offer
again every women is different but if something is really important to you
ask first. some women are quite open in discussing services rendered others think its rude or afraid of the law and snub you
but no harm in asking
The OP's post mentioned MSOG in an hour or even 15 minutes.
Really?
Does a SP even have to be in the room with a 15 MSOG? Zero connection IMHO.
I must be getting old
I see the MSOG in 60 or 90 minutes as having a good connection with a SP who like Alix states loves what she is doing. Guess that is why I look for the connection and keep going back for more
Really?
Does a SP even have to be in the room with a 15 MSOG? Zero connection IMHO.
I must be getting old
I see the MSOG in 60 or 90 minutes as having a good connection with a SP who like Alix states loves what she is doing. Guess that is why I look for the connection and keep going back for more
Yeah like I said I don't think I could go twice in 15 minutes anyways I am a bit older now but I figured if I was quick the first time I didn't wanna think that, that was it. It's good to hear different views on it, I just know that my marriage has taken a dive in the last six years and I have more of a best friend now then someone who wants to be in bed with me. Thats why my buddy suggested this as a way to keep myself happy and not get a divorce so I am giving it a go. I been reading the reviews on here and I wondered if its neccessary to write them or are you allowed to just read for awhile and do them later if you feel comfortable with it?
I agree that MSOG is something that should be included, lots of service providers I know also provide it like me and it really is about just finding the right girl you are attracted to and asking the right questions. I tend to ask the girls on here questions when I have any and you should ask the guys on here through pm for suggestions too if you don't know all the questions that you should start out with Also welcome to the board!
Also welcome to the board!I think a lot offer it with full knowledge that the majority of clients are not able to do it. It is a great excuse for shooting off the first one early in the session, then a futile attempt to get a second one going is all too likely to have an embarrassed client out the door, fully paid, but leaving early.
Everything you read in reviews is not gospel truth, fwiw. Find an sp who takes her time with a ssog, and enjoy the journey, the way harmony describes her encounters for example. don't get caught up in what you think should be a given in an industry you admit you know little about. Each sp is different, rates are different, services are different and styles are different, just like the guys who go to see them. I think most sps with a lot of experience behind them discourage msog on first meetings, since they don't want to be in the position described so well by Alix T.
Everything you read in reviews is not gospel truth, fwiw. Find an sp who takes her time with a ssog, and enjoy the journey, the way harmony describes her encounters for example. don't get caught up in what you think should be a given in an industry you admit you know little about. Each sp is different, rates are different, services are different and styles are different, just like the guys who go to see them. I think most sps with a lot of experience behind them discourage msog on first meetings, since they don't want to be in the position described so well by Alix T.
yes, well a bit of false advertising too. One gal insisted that the time was for a single shot and the rest of the money was for her prescence with the client for the agreed upon time. Nice to have company a bit longer but when you think of it, you really need to be able to talk about things or it is cheaper to just take the shortest period and get it over with and then go to a bar and find some one to talk to for free. Did an experiement one night, instead of spending more time with one gal, took the shortest time and got it off. Then went to another similar place a few blocks away, about an hour or so later and scored again, different gal, different personality. Waited another hour and hit another cheap joint, and again scored. Actual cost, well more than staying with the first one for the hour, but certainly less than trying to score her three times over the same time period. So from 6 pm on to 11 pm, had three different massages, three diferent gals, hell of a good time and slept well that night.
Hmmm.... What about fuckers like me who can fuck for an hour non stop and not cum?
Am I getting value for money? If she's a great lay, yeah, if not, not so much...
Am I getting value for money? If she's a great lay, yeah, if not, not so much...
