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Inside work: A prostitute says plying her trade in massage studios is safer and better paid than on the streets or for escort agencies
My name is Micah. I am a Vancouver prostitute, and the single mother of a pre-school child. I grew up in foster care and have a Grade 9 education. I have a massage practitioner's license. During the...
That's all I can see of it without paying for now, until it's available for free in two days on Canadian Newsstand.

*Edit - see link to full article in vancouverderek's post below. -Thanks.
 
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you`d think after 10 years in the "profession" she`d have saved enough for hair dressing school..
 

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She was on the radio Thursday morning. Said she makes about $3500 a month working two nights a week part time and not doing penetration. She took a lot of abuse from callers saying she was a bad mother and had "men" issues. One guy said she is setting her kid up to be a car thief (???). She was really off base suggesting crack addicts and street workers could be brought in to work at massage parlours. Every MP owner's dream. "Come to our place, we have the best crack whores in town; many are disease-free." I'm sure that would help business.
 

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Cock Throppled said:
Every MP owner's dream. "Come to our place, we have the best crack whores in town; many are disease-free." I'm sure that would help business.
Implying that the typical massage girls at MPs are disease free? From what I could tell from many of the high-mileage ones, I'd be awfully suspicious if they claimed they had none.

The math is staggering to me... at an AMP, let's say Bex for example, the typical girl might work a 12 hour shift. If she's the best there, she will probably be busy 10 of those 12 hours. If she works 5 days a week, she's laid 50 guys a week. If she works a year with say 3 weeks vacation, she's done 50 (guys) X 49 (weeks) = 2600 guys a year. The busiest girl is probably the one who gives high mileage, which usually means at least BBBJ. That would be sucking 2600 dicks a year. If she takes CIM, that's 2600 cums in her mouth. When I sober up and do this kind of math, it really turns me off seeing high mileage girls. It doesn't take being a crack addict to have a disease.
 

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I was being facetious about marketing, and while I agree the high mileage demanded by some increases the risks to all, I'm fairly sure the lifestyle on the street, combined with drugs and mental illness makes the marginalized sex workers more susceptable to a host of diseases, not just STD's.
 

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Cock Throppled said:
She was on the radio Thursday morning. Said she makes about $3500 a month working two nights a week part time and not doing penetration.
That means that she's making a little better than $400 a night without penetration.
Is that realistic?
And are BJ's penetration?
 

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Herb_The_Perb said:
That means that she's making a little better than $400 a night without penetration.
Is that realistic?
 

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Let's put assumptions aside; here are some real stats...

georgebushmoron said:
The math is staggering to me... at an AMP, let's say Bex for example, the typical girl might work a 12 hour shift. If she's the best there, she will probably be busy 10 of those 12 hours. If she works 5 days a week, she's laid 50 guys a week. If she works a year with say 3 weeks vacation, she's done 50 (guys) X 49 (weeks) = 2600 guys a year. The busiest girl is probably the one who gives high mileage, which usually means at least BBBJ. That would be sucking 2600 dicks a year. If she takes CIM, that's 2600 cums in her mouth. When I sober up and do this kind of math, it really turns me off seeing high mileage girls. It doesn't take being a crack addict to have a disease.
The most productive I've seen for one provider in an AMP, is 127 clients in one month. This from a very good-looking girl in March '01 who only reached that level because the shop was short-staffed, and down to 2 girls. Seven days that month, included visits by a well-heeled gentlemen who paid $700 for two-hour sessions, bumping her daily total for those days over $1K.

Low staffing levels like this are exceptionally rare, especially at AMPs. Total income that month for her was approx. $20K. Regular income and clients seen amount to a lot less nowadays. More like 40-50 clients per month. I said good-looking because this factor is of great influence. A plain-looking girl may see only twenty clients in a month working every single day, and her average take per client hovers around $100.

These figures were harvested from ladies in local AMPs. Gone are the days ten years back when the scarcity of establishments in town meant that an average and diligent lady, could earn $20K month after month.

Hope these real figures help suppress assumptions in your analysis.
 

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Cock Throppled said:
She took a lot of abuse from callers...
She was really off base suggesting crack addicts and street workers could be brought in to work at massage parlours.
First of all, I think we should applaud her for speaking out. That can't be easy.
It's great when the women in the business say they want decriminalization, because it completely counters the bible-thumpers and the radical feminists who oppose decriminalization by claiming they're all about saving and protecting the women who work in the business.

I'd agree with you that the idea of street walkers moving into MPs doesn't make much sense. It would have 25 or 30 years ago when the laws and the way they were being enforced was discouraging SPs from working indoors. Today, the ones still on the street are there for different reasons. The ones who are capable of working indoors already are.

I think before much longer the media and the general public are going to start realizing that the police and politicians are huge hypocrites who have been tacitly allowing a large indoor sex trade, which is supposed to be illegal. It employs thousands of women across the country, and the politicians and cops can't get away with pretending they don't exist forever.

About the working two days a week, I don't know how common it is, but I've heard of some who will do this and also see familiar customers on other days, either on outcalls or at an incall they may share with other SPs. Working in the MP a couple of days a week in effect eliminates the need to advertise themselves independently or work for an agency, and allows them to screen customers since they will only give their contact info to guys they have already seen a few times inside the MP.
 
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In my BEST month.

SP inflation. Thanks for the info adventurer.

How about this observation: whenever I read a SP says that she makes $3500 per month, or even $35,000 per month, instead it always seems to translate as "I made 3500 in my BEST month." :D
 

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Maury Beniowski said:
The most productive I've seen for one provider in an AMP, is 127 clients in one month. This from a very good-looking girl in March '01 who only reached that level because the shop was short-staffed, and down to 2 girls. Seven days that month, included visits by a well-heeled gentlemen who paid $700 for two-hour sessions, bumping her daily total for those days over $1K.

Low staffing levels like this are exceptionally rare, especially at AMPs. Total income that month for her was approx. $20K. Regular income and clients seen amount to a lot less nowadays. More like 40-50 clients per month. I said good-looking because this factor is of great influence. A plain-looking girl may see only twenty clients in a month working every single day, and her average take per client hovers around $100.

These figures were harvested from ladies in local AMPs. Gone are the days ten years back when the scarcity of establishments in town meant that an average and diligent lady, could earn $20K month after month.

Hope these real figures help suppress assumptions in your analysis.
These figures actually correllate my post. I was speaking of, say, a typically popular provider who would be able to get 2600 clients per year. As for an average looking girl, she could see 3 clients per day. Working a 5-day week she sees 60 clients a month. Even if she were to charge a paltry $100 per client, take home is still a clear $6k. Not bad for lying on your back.
 

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The biggest challenge ladies face is boredom. When business is booming, even ten clients in one day makes time fly, and relieves them from some of the platitudes they face in the waiting rooms, among their peers. Nevertheless, day after day of one or two clients in a twelve hour shift can sure take its toll on them, and thus increase the attrition rates, which is a pervasive systemic problem in this industry.
 
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