LonelyGhost said:
too many of these 'kids' are self-indulgent assholes who don't care about anyone but themselves and no amount of 'shaking' is going to have any effect
exactly
hutch said:
I think if people look back a few years, when we first got our DL's, there were times when we made a few dumb choices. As far as the passengers, I guess they made one poor decision of getting in the car and not being able to predict the future.
Of course we all did dumb things as kids and teenagers.....hell I haven't always had a stick up my ass and was this grumpy......when I was a teen I came close to burning down a garage (iodine crystals and potassium nitrate can do some kewl things

), got caught in places I shouldn't have been and was brought home by the popo, dodged death's bullet a couple of time while skiing, biking or riding
what these little pricks did isn't the same thing.....the RCMP are no reporting that alcohol and drugs were causative elements in the accident.....they choose to drink and take the drugs and then chose again to get behind the wheel and drive or sit down as a passenger.....they now have to live, or as the case may be for some die, with the consequences
just some little dirtbags who won't group up to be bigger dirtbags.....fine by me, just less for me to have to pay for their incarceration