More Donald Trump bizarre ideas . . . .

[badbadboy]

The Donald if elected will cancel Free Trade agreements, implement a 45% duty on Chinese made goods and make changes to importation of vehicles into the USA.

Economic Protectionism at its worst and I don't think it will work out well for the Americans if he takes office. It's suggested a ten year Depression similar to the 1930's will occur.

From the NY Times

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/02/2...trade-and-gop-follows-suit.html?_r=0&referer=

I'm sure the Donald will have many more crazy ideas. So far, this is the least thought out on his part.

 

[erber]

What he should do first is to set an expiration date for all marriage certificate, just like Drivers License.

 

[SFMIKE]

What he should do first is to set an expiration date for all marriage certificate, just like Drivers License.

Sorry, not possible. Marriage certificates fall under the jurisdiction of the individual states, and, I believe, in some cases, individual counties. Not a Federal issue.

 

[Tugela]

The Donald if elected will cancel Free Trade agreements, implement a 45% duty on Chinese made goods and make changes to importation of vehicles into the USA.

Economic Protectionism at its worst and I don't think it will work out well for the Americans if he takes office. It's suggested a ten year Depression similar to the 1930's will occur.

From the NY Times

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/02/2...trade-and-gop-follows-suit.html?_r=0&referer=

I'm sure the Donald will have many more crazy ideas. So far, this is the least thought out on his part.

Not to mention that he wants to kick 10 million people out of the country. The economic impact would be enormous. Aside from the actual cost of doing all that, the effect of suddenly removing most of the low end work force from the economy, along with the loss of their buying power, would be crippling.

Do Americans not realize that the cost of their food would skyrocket if he did that? I believe one of the southern states tried that about a decade ago, and made the consequences of employing illegal workers harsh. The net effect was that their migrant farm labor force moved out of state and their agricultural economy collapsed. They quietly repealed most of the measures later, but the labor force did not come back. Farmers tried hiring unemployed people from the cities, but those lasted a few days then left, because the work was physically too hard. They tried using prison labor, but the farmers had to go and replant seed after the prisoners had done it, because they did it wrong and didn't care. If they kick all of these people out of the country there is going to be a massive labor problem on US farms.

He wants to build a wall along the Mexican border, even though most illegal immigrants don't cross the border there, they enter legally and just don't leave. He claims that the Mexicans will pay for it (they won't) and in order to get them to do so he will use trade as leverage. The same trade that he is also going to cut off as part of his policy anyway, so it isn't going to be much use as leverage. Somehow that contradiction doesn't seem to bother anyone.

The ideas he comes up with are just not practical, and usually not legal either.

 

[Tugela]

Sorry, not possible. Marriage certificates fall under the jurisdiction of the individual states, and, I believe, in some cases, individual counties. Not a Federal issue.

No problem. He will "make" it a federal issue, and if States disagree with him, they will be accused of being "stupid". That appears to be his MO whenever someone opposes his ideas.

 

[wetnose]

It's a sad statement about the Republican voters when they even consider someone like Trump. Angry...Stupid...Desperate...Fed up.

 

[badbadboy]

It's a sad statement about the Republican voters when they even consider someone like Trump. Angry...Stupid...Desperate...Fed up.

They are desperate to have anyone but a Democrat. Thinking a Garden Gnome would be an adequate replacement. I recall when Ronald Reagan became the republican candidate and look at how he is revered now.

I'll never get the rhyme or reason behind American voters or the politicians. Their whole system is broken with too many special interest groups at the helm steering the Congress with their money and influence.

It will be an interesting but very dirty election campaign. The Clinton's were good friends with Trump and he used to sing Hilary's praises not too long ago. I'm sure Bill is already rubbing his hands and writing speeches.

 

[erber]

Not that The Woman and the other cancidates are better than him, but grass root voters who are voting for him will eventually regret it.
Because they are impulsive voters, who are taken advantage of by his current propaganda

The smarter voters understand what's really going on.

 

[a_lee_n]

They are desperate to have anyone but a Democrat. Thinking a Garden Gnome would be an adequate replacement. I recall when Ronald Reagan became the republican candidate and look at how he is revered now.

I'll never get the rhyme or reason behind American voters or the politicians. Their whole system is broken with too many special interest groups at the helm steering the Congress with their money and influence.

It will be an interesting but very dirty election campaign. The Clinton's were good friends with Trump and he used to sing Hilary's praises not too long ago. I'm sure Bill is already rubbing his hands and writing speeches.

I think there is quite a bit of anger at the GOP with Republican voters, while there is disappointment with a significant portion of Democrats. That is why Trump leads with the Republicans and Sanders is making Clinton nervous. I get the feeling, as a former card carrying Republican (now an independent moderate), that this is a punishment phase against the GOP. Republicans won't vote for a Democrat, especially a Clinton, but they will chose a non-DC-establishment type, regardless of what bat shit insane things he says. The last several election cycles had brought Republicans out to win both sides of Congress, and yet those elected have essentially reneged on their campaign promises. Republicans are sick of not being represented by the people they elected to Congress, and they are tired of the partisan politics that have ground business down to nothing, the some 40% of the time congressmen are actually present in DC. Basically DC is super constipated, the only time any legislation gets passed ends up in a omnibus form that nobody has read before voting for passage. This state of affairs pisses a lot of people off, and I get the feeling that if things stay the same for the next 4 years, you might get a revolt within the electorate. Personally, I want both parties broken up. The first past the post election system shows what the worst possible outcome is with the two party system in the US. I also believe the US Supreme Court decisions that made corporations individuals and money free speech has lead the US to its current political crisis.

I also agree with you that Reagan was an overrated president, he gets credit for things he really had no real control over (for example the Soviet Union was going to collapse economically, the US military spending on things like "Star Wars" perhaps accelerated that process by several years), and no blame for the atrocities committed in the name of freedom (Central America).

 

[Rufus T. Firefly]

[/QUOTE] I'm sure the Donald will have many more crazy ideas. So far, this is the least thought out on his part.[/QUOTE]

I don't think it's poorly thought out at all. I think it was carefully thought out, just like all of the stupid shit he says.

It's wrong to think that Trump is stupid because he says stupid things. He's not stupid at all. He's shrewd: you only need look at how he has run his campaign to see that. He chooses the stupid things to say based on how they will be received by the idiots listening, and he gets the media to do his campaigning for him by creating stirs wherever he can.

PT Barnum said "no one ever went broke understimating the taste of the American people", and Trump's taken that to heart in the political arena. Any political opponent who underestimates his ability to get support from the stupid majority is gonna get Jeb Bushed.

 

[westwoody]

I agree with Rufus.
Trump doesn't believe any of this crap. But he knows what the masses want to hear and he gives it to them.

When Obama ran he wanted to bring in healthcare, improve race relations, etc.
When Reagan ran he wanted to deregulate everything, trim the bureaucracy, win the Cold War.
Trump has no agenda, he just wants to be President.

Still amazed that so many are fooled by his act. It's sad that a clown like him is actually the best/least bad choice.

 

[clu]

Actually Donald Trump's ideas are a great fit in certain circles:

 

[Tugela]

They are desperate to have anyone but a Democrat. Thinking a Garden Gnome would be an adequate replacement. I recall when Ronald Reagan became the republican candidate and look at how he is revered now.

I'll never get the rhyme or reason behind American voters or the politicians. Their whole system is broken with too many special interest groups at the helm steering the Congress with their money and influence.

It will be an interesting but very dirty election campaign. The Clinton's were good friends with Trump and he used to sing Hilary's praises not too long ago. I'm sure Bill is already rubbing his hands and writing speeches.

I would be surprised if would win the presidency if he becomes the republican candidate. His views are not going to appeal to that many democratic voters, and I'm pretty sure that there are more than a few republicans who would rather vote for Clinton than Trump. They would see him as a threat to America, and cross party lines just to keep him out.

He has a core constituency within the Republican party of about 30-40%, depending on which state is voting. But the rest of them would probably vote for any of the other primary candidates instead of him. The only reason he is wining now is because the field is so fractured. That is not going to be the case in the general election.

What will really torpedo him is if Cruz or one of the others decides to run as an independent anyway, and I think that is a real possibility if Trump gets the nomination.

 

[Tugela]

I think there is quite a bit of anger at the GOP with Republican voters, while there is disappointment with a significant portion of Democrats. That is why Trump leads with the Republicans and Sanders is making Clinton nervous. I get the feeling, as a former card carrying Republican (now an independent moderate), that this is a punishment phase against the GOP. Republicans won't vote for a Democrat, especially a Clinton, but they will chose a non-DC-establishment type, regardless of what bat shit insane things he says. The last several election cycles had brought Republicans out to win both sides of Congress, and yet those elected have essentially reneged on their campaign promises. Republicans are sick of not being represented by the people they elected to Congress, and they are tired of the partisan politics that have ground business down to nothing, the some 40% of the time congressmen are actually present in DC. Basically DC is super constipated, the only time any legislation gets passed ends up in a omnibus form that nobody has read before voting for passage. This state of affairs pisses a lot of people off, and I get the feeling that if things stay the same for the next 4 years, you might get a revolt within the electorate. Personally, I want both parties broken up. The first past the post election system shows what the worst possible outcome is with the two party system in the US. I also believe the US Supreme Court decisions that made corporations individuals and money free speech has lead the US to its current political crisis.

I also agree with you that Reagan was an overrated president, he gets credit for things he really had no real control over (for example the Soviet Union was going to collapse economically, the US military spending on things like "Star Wars" perhaps accelerated that process by several years), and no blame for the atrocities committed in the name of freedom (Central America).

The problem in the US is that although the voters want to "kick the bums out", they are always talking about other districts bums, not their own. That is why the same people always get re-elected even though congress as a whole has a dismal approval rating.

They don't have an issue with how they and their neighbors have voted, they have an issue with how people in other communities have voted. So they more and more elect firebrands who are going to "get things working right", but what they don't understand is that these firebrands are essentially anarchists who want to burn everything to the ground so they can create a new world order, not fix things.

 

[Tugela]

Of course Trump has an agenda. Everyone has an agenda. A kid doesn't want to be an NHL hockey player without an agenda: to win the Stanly Cup. Trump wants to hold the reigns of power a fading, yet still singular super power and has no goal to direct that power? Nobody even considers running for president without years of wet dreams about what they will do come the day. Trump clearly has an agenda but won't reveal it until elected.

He doesn't have a vision. What he wants is to be is the big man, to be adored by the masses, to have the power of life and death. It is all about ego, and becoming president is the ultimate prize for someone like that.

People like Trump are dangerous, even if they behave like crass buffoons. In other cultures they go by names like Mussolini, Hitler, Stalin, Franco, Putin, and so on. The mind set of these people are all very similar, even if the ideology differs. They bask in being the big man. Fundamentally it is all about them and they never have enough.