Wtf, we now have a Minister of Middle Class Prosperity... is this a federal cabinet or a high school student council?
Minister of Middle Class Prosperity
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I haven’t delved into it since the announcement of this new portfolio.
The majority of taxpayers are from the middle class so is it out of bounds that there is a minister who represents the middle class? There has never been a minister who represents a segment of Canadian taxpayer Society unless you want to include Social Services too.
Though it did make me wonder if this was a way to get the public prepared for when a minister of Upper Class is appointed
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The majority of taxpayers are from the middle class so is it out of bounds that there is a minister who represents the middle class? There has never been a minister who represents a segment of Canadian taxpayer Society unless you want to include Social Services too.
Though it did make me wonder if this was a way to get the public prepared for when a minister of Upper Class is appointed
ound: ?Trudeau got confused and accidentally listed one of his election slogans when he was drawing up a list of cabinet portfolios.
I'll take my share of the prosperity in cash please. The Minister can send it on over as soon as it's ready.
They've got a lot of these sort of names in their cabinet. A lot of redundancy and feel-good crap. Put the Cons in charge, and you'll get shit like "Ministry of Improving Market Freedom".
But I suppose it all started very long ago, with whoever decided that the Ministry Of War should be named "Ministry of Defence" to sound more innocent than it really is.
But I suppose it all started very long ago, with whoever decided that the Ministry Of War should be named "Ministry of Defence" to sound more innocent than it really is.
and I'm waiting for him to rename his whole cabinet as "Fawlty Towers".I thought exactly the same thing
Back during WW11 England used to call it simply, the war ministry.
Oooooh, too unpolitically correct for trublow. lol...
I don’t know how prosperous the middle class is in Canada since they gave us a whole minister. But here I can give an example of the neighbors)) My brother is forced to take payday loans in Pennsylvania here. Otherwise, he doesn't have time to pay for all bills. Ordinary family, one child, working wife.
and Freeland is going to gladly go toe to toe with all the Conservative Premiers. what a slime ball JT.
HEY.........idiot Minister of Middle Class Prosperity.
You want the middle class to prosper....STOP TAXING US TO DEATH.......
Simple....
You want the middle class to prosper....STOP TAXING US TO DEATH.......
Simple....
I wonder if the Minister of Middle Class Prosperity is able to define what the "middle class" is. It's such a loose term that it can be whatever the Minister dreams up, I suppose.
The middle class is loosing ground, more are going down the income ladder... mostly due to inflation and loss of income (due to not getting raises compared to the inflation rate). The cost of products are not going down, they are going up. Look at the cost of beds, furniture etc. Most people buy the cheap inexpensive stuff that dosen't last long.
As for Freeland speaking to the premiers, its an awesome choice. She usually succeeds at whatever portfolio she is in. If she succeeds JT wins. If she looses, guess what its her fault... (remember its politics we are talking about here).
So in Vancouver the middle class can't afford million dollar mortgages (land rich, cash poor), same with the lower mainland. They can't afford camping in the summer, trips to Mexico at winter, not if they want to buy their kids an ipad for xmas. yes it depends what you are going to do with your money too...
Also the house comes with a line of credit these days, which is there for emergencies. Okay.... Canadians have more credit card debt now then ever it seems, and alot of that is just to make ends meet. Alot of people work second jobs, but that is hard on a marriage and raising kids.
Throughout this country, there are companies with pension plans. Some of these companies get no pension or have a reduced pensions (I will use Sears Canada as an examle and Nortel Networks?)
Retail stores are out, look at the recent ebay add, where the people are laughing. That shit is not true, look up any item and the retailer and amazon and ebay have the same price (manufacturers have deal with the online place, to ensure retailer don't go broke, putting millions out of work).... If you do get a deal its about 15 or 20 % and its not for long....
And its hard to define the middle class.
As for Freeland speaking to the premiers, its an awesome choice. She usually succeeds at whatever portfolio she is in. If she succeeds JT wins. If she looses, guess what its her fault... (remember its politics we are talking about here).
So in Vancouver the middle class can't afford million dollar mortgages (land rich, cash poor), same with the lower mainland. They can't afford camping in the summer, trips to Mexico at winter, not if they want to buy their kids an ipad for xmas. yes it depends what you are going to do with your money too...
Also the house comes with a line of credit these days, which is there for emergencies. Okay.... Canadians have more credit card debt now then ever it seems, and alot of that is just to make ends meet. Alot of people work second jobs, but that is hard on a marriage and raising kids.
Throughout this country, there are companies with pension plans. Some of these companies get no pension or have a reduced pensions (I will use Sears Canada as an examle and Nortel Networks?)
Retail stores are out, look at the recent ebay add, where the people are laughing. That shit is not true, look up any item and the retailer and amazon and ebay have the same price (manufacturers have deal with the online place, to ensure retailer don't go broke, putting millions out of work).... If you do get a deal its about 15 or 20 % and its not for long....
And its hard to define the middle class.
From the 40's to early 70's work was easy to find, and people went from job to job, until the big unemployment started in the late 70's based off economist theorist saying it was easier to run a government in deficit (some theory from the 60s). An uneducated worker (less than grade 12) could find any number of jobs and work on their skills. Plus unions had a big say and protected their workers. During the 70's to 90s things slowed down, globalism was starting. During the 90s finding an employer that had a pension plan was hard, most companies were matching RSP contributions. The uneducated jobs were hard to find except at min wage (ie you weren't gonna find a floor sweeper job at an manufacturing plant). During the 90s and early 00's the Cdn government started in on federal unions with downsizing and cutting benefits in return for a higher wage (all in an effort to balance budgets and bring down the deficit.
So across the world in the early 70s shipbuilding in Canada went overseas to Japan, and in Korea in the 80s.
(60s to 80s) Local logging companies went to multi-national companies and soon the forests were being cut wholesale and log exported to foreign nations like Japan and US. If you are ever in an airplane look at the ground, along highways there are trees but further back there are none.... thats across the country. Yes they do replant trees but it take 80 to 100 years to get good sized trees. Countries like Sweden, Norway and Finland must do selective logging, but there is no big profit in that for logging companies in Canada.
Our raw resources go outside Canada. Canada could produce all that it needs for products, but doesn't, because companies loose profit to pay for the high wages of Canadians.
The people that make the money in Canada, will not retire in Canada, they will spend the money in other countries where it is warmer and cheaper. One of the reason our country's population is so low, Canadians find a warmer place to live. Most of the middle class will retire in Canada cause they can't afford to live outside Canada with their savings...
When the middle class can't afford to buy an good family sized house in Vancouver, lower mainland, Victoria, and the Toronto area; there is a problem..... let alone save for retirement.
The rich work really hard to make as much as they can (they don't pay as much tax as the middle class on a % basis due to tax breaks they get), and they will abandon Canada. The middle class will work like slaves and die owning money to afford to live here. The poor, the lazy, the crippled will live off the tax money the government gives them and this number is increasing....
So every body is doing the capitalistic thing and trying to make as much money as they can, before they jump ship..... Meanwhile leaving behind an toxic waste dump for who is left to clean up. US is a good example of this, all its polluted rivers and lakes, its toxic dumps sites(made by companies that made as much money as they could and jumped and ran off with the money). The gold mining industry in Colorado is a prime example leaving behind toxic sludge ponds and the money disappeared in a corporate moves of paperwork over state lines.... So the state had to clean them up.
I can't blame them, all people are interested in is making money. But they don't see the shit that is left behind. The toxic and environmental mess made. Out of sight out of mind....
So across the world in the early 70s shipbuilding in Canada went overseas to Japan, and in Korea in the 80s.
(60s to 80s) Local logging companies went to multi-national companies and soon the forests were being cut wholesale and log exported to foreign nations like Japan and US. If you are ever in an airplane look at the ground, along highways there are trees but further back there are none.... thats across the country. Yes they do replant trees but it take 80 to 100 years to get good sized trees. Countries like Sweden, Norway and Finland must do selective logging, but there is no big profit in that for logging companies in Canada.
Our raw resources go outside Canada. Canada could produce all that it needs for products, but doesn't, because companies loose profit to pay for the high wages of Canadians.
The people that make the money in Canada, will not retire in Canada, they will spend the money in other countries where it is warmer and cheaper. One of the reason our country's population is so low, Canadians find a warmer place to live. Most of the middle class will retire in Canada cause they can't afford to live outside Canada with their savings...
When the middle class can't afford to buy an good family sized house in Vancouver, lower mainland, Victoria, and the Toronto area; there is a problem..... let alone save for retirement.
The rich work really hard to make as much as they can (they don't pay as much tax as the middle class on a % basis due to tax breaks they get), and they will abandon Canada. The middle class will work like slaves and die owning money to afford to live here. The poor, the lazy, the crippled will live off the tax money the government gives them and this number is increasing....
So every body is doing the capitalistic thing and trying to make as much money as they can, before they jump ship..... Meanwhile leaving behind an toxic waste dump for who is left to clean up. US is a good example of this, all its polluted rivers and lakes, its toxic dumps sites(made by companies that made as much money as they could and jumped and ran off with the money). The gold mining industry in Colorado is a prime example leaving behind toxic sludge ponds and the money disappeared in a corporate moves of paperwork over state lines.... So the state had to clean them up.
I can't blame them, all people are interested in is making money. But they don't see the shit that is left behind. The toxic and environmental mess made. Out of sight out of mind....
As one who grew up in the fifties and sixties in a family for which unemployment was always staring us in the face, I submit that your generalization is far too sweeping.
