mike tyson goes vegan
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That is the oddest things I've read in a while. I don't watch tv, haven't watched tv in a couple of years, and this reminds me why I don't. lol
This is what people like to watch these days? Shows about psycho ex boxers (who've bitten opponents ears off and beat his ex-wife and didn't he also rape another woman?...) race PIGEONS.
PIGEONS?!?
I don't really get it. What am I missing?
Why would anyone care about Mike Tyson racing pigeons?
Outside of the violence, the birds, and the debts - it's cool to know he's living a vegan lifestyle. 
funny....really funny. I was just out seducing my urban garden of peas, strawberries, and some kind of flower I can't even pronounce the name, much less spell it. I think I have them tricked, they are growing and seem happy.
cheers,
eddie.
What you missing is that Tyson use to raise pigeons before he became the heavyweight champ. That was his way of relaxing. As to why anyone would actually watch him do it, well that's a good question. I don't watch any reality tv so I'm not sure where this lies in the scheme of things, but it doesn't sound all that exciting too me, other than the fact he does say some interesting and funny things at times.
I remember once he said he could masturbate and he'd still fill up Madison Square Gardens..the funniest part about that is that he was probably right..lol
I remember once he said he could masturbate and he'd still fill up Madison Square Gardens..the funniest part about that is that he was probably right..lol
I think most vegans just try to their best to minimize animal suffering (some are more perfect than others ) but the unsigned cartoon cattle by-products list does show it takes effort. Fortunately there are lots of alternatives, awareness & increased labelling/government regulations for the consumer to make informed decisions. Still, kind of amazing we don't have all mad cow disease. Why the vegan hate?
) but the unsigned cartoon cattle by-products list does show it takes effort. Fortunately there are lots of alternatives, awareness & increased labelling/government regulations for the consumer to make informed decisions. Still, kind of amazing we don't have all mad cow disease. Why the vegan hate?
LOL BIJOU! LOL I think he meant to write RAISE pigeons. I was like WTF?, too. LOLThat is the oddest things I've read in a while. I don't watch tv, haven't watched tv in a couple of years, and this reminds me why I don't. lol
This is what people like to watch these days? Shows about psycho ex boxers (who've bitten opponents ears off and beat his ex-wife and didn't he also rape another woman?...) race PIGEONS.
PIGEONS?!?
I don't really get it. What am I missing?
Why would anyone care about Mike Tyson racing pigeons?
Courtesy of a brother from another -- er -- forum.
Yup, it's pretty crazy how many uses they've thought of to make as much money from animal parts we can't eat. I'm not vegan but I bought a vegan cookbook at Book Warehouse a while back and I was really shocked when I went through the list of products that are made from animal ingredients...
When I read it I had NO idea about a lot of this stuff. It's pretty fascinating, really. I knew the list found in the book came from Peta so I figured it would probably be somewhere online, which it is >full list of animal ingredients here< if anyone's curious. FYI the list includes non-animal alternatives.. Looks like there's hope for vegans afterall.... and looks like that "conclusion" is baloney (made from tofu, of course lol)
I think most vegans just try to their best to minimize animal suffering (some are more perfect than others
...or e-coli (yet)... or salmonella (yet)... or bird flu/swine flu (yet)... or whatever else disease we find ourselves fighting that has become resistant to anti-biotics.
I'm not sure either, why the vegan hate. No one's forcing anyone else to become vegan. And if someone feels they're able to drop some meat but not other products (which in most cases is not the case, as the existence of and reference to the list above demonstrates people are It's an entirely novel concept to most of us. Not only the animal ingredients part - but the part about being informed, about researching and being AWARE of where our food and other products COME FROM as well as WHAT they are MADE OF/FROM. Most of us have no clue and have probably never thought to research what the products we eat and use are really made from. I think that's the point here, not whether or not every vegan is or is not perfect about being a vegan. lol
What matters is that people are trying and not leaving it into others hands believing their best interests and health will be served. Even deciding to eat less meat and purchasing ethical (and no, you can't assume you're off the hook because the package says free range or free run as there are plenty of where those have been used in misleading ways. It means you have to do some research before you buy.)
The point, also, is that any way you wish to look at it, current farming and agriculture processes are a result of the demand for high quantities of meat at very low costs. Never in history have we consumed this much meat at this frequency. And there isn't one person on this planet who can deny or dispute the fact that the way things currently are is simply NOT SUSTAINABLE!
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** It's not sustainable for our health **
- whether it's the over-use of antibiotics which puts us all at risk (life threatening) by causing an increasing number of antibiotics used for humans to become ineffective in treating diseases that have been treatable for decades (1)
- whether it's the incredible health risks of a serious pandemic starting right from one of those feedlots or from other intensive confinement of animals with each other and each other's waste.
- Whether it's because of the effects on our health from consuming so much meat, that translates into billions (economic) we are forced to spend on medical costs from problems and illnesses we are the ones responsible for (heart disease, diabetes, some cancers, etc) or,
- the growing numbers of infections suffered as a result of below-par inspection of the unsanitary and dangerous conditions animals are kept in as well as slaughtered in, such as e-coli, salmonella, listeriosis... (2)
This is what you want to put your family and yourself at risk of?
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** It's not sustainable for the environment **
- whether it's the water required to care for all these millions of animals, or
- the biodiversity & forests destroyed,
- people displaced,
- loss of habitat for wild animals so that we can feed the millions of animals we want to eat,
- whether it's all of the pollution and contamination of land and water from intensive farming animal waste,
- whether it's from being one of, if not the biggest causes of gaz emissions and global warming.
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** It's not sustainable **
- because it makes us less and less able to feed a fast growing population. We are using grain to feed animals we breed when that grain could feed part of the population, which will instead be starving.
- because this part of the population is only going to be getting larger and larger and needs that will only increase.
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Notes:
(1) Some of the antibiotics affected are those who had been used to treat CHILDREN specifically but are no longer effective from these new drug resistant bugs! Btw- antibiotics are automatically included in the animals feed in order to keep them from being sick but mostly because they have found that it makes them GROW faster. People are getting very sick so that cows, pigs and chicken can GROW faster.)
(2) These all come from animal feces, since every package of meat you buy DOES contain some feces (YUM!), odds are that contamination is more and more likely. You just don't know how much the meat is tainted, how strong the strain of this particular bacteria is or how your immune system will fare against it. If you have a young child or an older parent with low immune.....they might not be as lucky as you, the healthy adult.)
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ALL of this because of our obsession for large amounts of cheap meat. And I know I didn't even include all of the reasons the current situation is not sustainable - there are more. This is the kind of planet and environmental destruction you want to leave as a legacy? This is the kind of mess you'll be proud to tell your children and grand children about?
What MORE do you WANT? What more do you NEED?
Really, if this is all not convincing enough to counter the opposite view's non arguments, I'm at a loss here. You can call me a leftist, a hypocrite all you want, but it does not change any of the above FACTS. And it doesn't change that you have NO other argument.
So you're attached to your meat.. we get it.
You don't want to have to change anything about your current eating habits.. we get it too.
Do what you want, obviously. But don't be surprised when your kids turn to you one day and ask you WTF you've done to this planet and where the hell you were when there was still something that could be done. Then you can explain that change meant too much of an effort and sacrifice.
You can tell them you just liked eating meat often, as often as you wanted and for as cheap as you could find, and that is why you just couldn't be bothered to consider all of the other stuff. And you can tell them you were too busy debating things that were irrelevant so you could ignore the facts and not focus too much on what was really going on.
Then See how impressed they are.
(Note: I'll come back later to add links to sources for the info I'm posting. I'm not making it up, I don't need to unfortunately.)
But here's a link to an article from this week's Georgia straight (great timing!)...
YUM-YUM!
How effective is Canada’s meat-inspection system?
Adriana✿;1079864 said:
ok that's hilarious. that makes the whole difference!
why did no one say that before?! lol
Because it was far to much fun wondering exactly how Mike would decide his pigeon was the winner....perhaps...with Mike his pigeon is always the winner
LMAO ... I love you MM. Well at least none of THIS animal is going to waste lolCourtesy of a brother from another -- er -- forum.
XO GINA XO
I think you missed my point: I intentionally didn't even list the animal welfare related reasons and motivations for going vegan to specifically highlight the fact that it is only one of the reasons people are vegan. There are many vegan athletes, and while I'm sure for some of them the animal issue plays some part in their choice of diet, the fact is that for the athletes it is motivated by health above all.
By the way, pretty funny timing with this piece too (posted today) about the cartoon lol
Debunking “There is No Such Thing as a Vegan”
i know this is out of context but isn`t mike tyson a muslim? there was one quote from a lil wayne track called " the american dream" and one of the lyrics mike tyson mentions, ''im da best ever! no one can stop me! praise allah''... that would maybe finalize why he is going all out vegan and on top of that, the guy does need a lifestyle change though...
Aaah yes, I see what you were saying. I have to agree that being associated to Mike Tyson for any reason is not so desirable. You're probably on to something there.. Maybe that's why I haven't seen his name on any of of the lists of vegan athletes? haha
Nope....racing is correct. It's a sport. You ladies didn't think it was a race between Mike and a pigeon did you?
wow.. so he does race pigeons. Hmm. Interesting...sort of. So, what? Do they bet on winners..? Is that how it works? Do they win prizes?
(And yes, the mental picture I had was indeed of him racing against a pigeon...hence my WTF comments. lol)
And I guess this settles the question on whether he is vegan for animal concerns or not...he's definitely not if he's raising, um, racing pigeons.
I'm not sure I understand why being muslim would explain going vegan? Muslims eat meat..they just don't eat pork/pigs. So what's the connection?
dunno it's just a theory... but overall it seems that mike wants to make his life better as i was finishing up reading an article about him on wikipedia... maybe being a vegan muslim would be a good choice for him. once again it's just a theory nothing more... feel free to expand on it.
OK, I am 100% for environmental sustainabilty. I also love a quality cut of beef. Cows are no longer animals that can survive in the wild; I only want for their production to affect the ecosystem in the least possible aspect.
Cheers to all who can enjoy a porterhouse and appreciate mother earth at the same time!
Cheers to all who can enjoy a porterhouse and appreciate mother earth at the same time!
