Mentality of Time scammers

[80watts]

Time scammers being fucktards/men that book sp/sw times and don't show/cancel appointments, wasting the sp/sw time.

I was on twitter and noticed the constant thread of timewasters. It seems to be a constant irritation of sp/sw.

Have to wonder why people/men would do this?

Is it because they think it is fun to fuck them around. Trying to upset or disrupt the sp/sw livelihood. Or is it the competition (other sw/sp) doing this to disrupt them. Maybe they are practical jokers?

Humans can be very fucken twisted fucks. Its in the same shit class of thinking as "I'm going to get even with that guy"; so the person goes and puts sugar in the gas tank of the person he wants to get even with (or something else). The person that called you out, suddenly has a flat tire... and so on.

Its an eye for an eye.

But what has that sp/sw ever done to you, except for being an sp/sw.

 

[Relax10]

It sucks that this happens. Unfortunately it happens in many industries however its getting a little better with people booking reservations at spas, salons, restaurants, etc through Facebook, Yelp, etc so its easier to block/blacklist from 1 person continuing their shit is harder. Of course this industry cant really use that but some SP's want a LinkedIn or work verification. I had a SP tell me a guy who had multiple references cancelled on her twice. Some SP's only want text so a jerk can keep changing his number. There's no perfect way around this outside of not breeding these fools. Assholes and trolls take pleasure in fucking with people. Respect, manners and consideration for others should be taught to kids in school so we have less of these people around.

As for the other way around I respect at SP that cancels when she's sick vs getting a bunch of people ill. I had a co worker get pissy because he was cancelled on and it wasnt last second. Mother fucker I said, I went to a legit spa for a massage and the lady was coughing on me and massaging at the same time. Fucking gross yo.

 

[Ms Erica Phoenix]

Time scammers being fucktards/men that book sp/sw times and don't show/cancel appointments, wasting the sp/sw time.

I was on twitter and noticed the constant thread of timewasters. It seems to be a constant irritation of sp/sw.

Have to wonder why people/men would do this?

Is it because they think it is fun to fuck them around. Trying to upset or disrupt the sp/sw livelihood. Or is it the competition (other sw/sp) doing this to disrupt them. Maybe they are practical jokers?

Humans can be very fucken twisted fucks. Its in the same shit class of thinking as "I'm going to get even with that guy"; so the person goes and puts sugar in the gas tank of the person he wants to get even with (or something else). The person that called you out, suddenly has a flat tire... and so on.

Its an eye for an eye.

But what has that sp/sw ever done to you, except for being an sp/sw.

Please note: this is not a rant. This is a reflective, measured & reasoned attempt by an SP, to answer questions about what happens in this pursuit of ours, that affects all of us that participate in it. Please take it in that spirit.

It's come to my attention that a lot of what we SPs consider No Call No Show is what some clients would see as "always having a plan B". Here's an example. In a conversation with a fellow worker, while I was talking about my 4 pm duo appointment that wanted to show up just after 3 pm, she complained about her 4 pm that never confirmed...would anyone care to guess what happened when we compared the phone numbers? I doubt that he had any malicious intent: he was HORNY, & thinking about how he could get the best bang for his buck with the time that he had. So he hedged his bets & we both gave him 4 pm appointments. Then he started asking if he could come sooner, because he was so excited thinking about it. So he stopped communicating with HER, kept communicating with me, and no one was any the wiser until 6:30 or so.

Here's another example: someone texted me last night at 9 pm to make a date for 8 am this morning. He chatted me up for an hour...at which point I went to sleep. After all, an 8 am appointment meant that I was going to have to be up at 6. At 7 pm, half an hour before he was going to have to call for my address, I received the following message:

"Go back to bed. I just got to bed at 5 am. I got another from Leolist. I would still love to see you sometime."

Nothing malicious there either, just thoughtless. Just got too horny to wait until morning right? So he calls up someone else. Rather than text me back right away to say "Hey, you know what? I couldn't wait. I will call you next time", he waited until I was getting ready for him to phone for my address. Why do I want to take a chance on booking him again? Once bitten, twice shy...bitten a dozen times, you start to see everything as a biting threat. Putting yourself in alternate shoes once in a while can do wonders for your perspectives.

 

[MissingOne]

Getting scammed isn't unique to service providers in this industry. It happens to people who provide services in other industries too. It happens in different ways in other industries, because the industries have different characteristics, but it happens.

Just one example from many in my 40 years of providing consulting services. I had a client who had very little money. I'd do little jobs for him, usually under-billing and sometimes giving him freebies. He constantly told me that when he got a financing, there'd be lots of work and I would get it.

Guess what? He got a financing, and immediately gave all the work to one of my competitors, who had never done him any favours at all. He didn't even have the courtesy to tell me. I only heard about it over the grapevine.

I'm not feeling sorry for myself - I do OK. And I'm not suggesting that just because it happens to others, SPs should grin and bear it. I'm only saying that the attitude of discourtesy is pervasive in human interactions. Cherish your friends, colleagues and clients who are fair and honest! Oh - and don't undercharge or do freebies.

 

[Cock Throppled]

It makes me wonder why, with so many time-wasters, some SP's treat clients so poorly, and try to rush through a session when we show up on time, clean and respectful.

 

[westwoody]

because they think it is fun to fuck them around. Trying to upset or disrupt the sp/sw livelihood. Or is it the competition (other sw/sp) doing this to disrupt them.

Guys used to openly post about booking with two different ladies at once. It was a big joke, they called it "having a plan B". If the first one didn't look so great they would just walk away and go see the other. If the first one was fine, they no call/no showed the other.

Nowadays it seems a lot of guys do it out of pure malice. To your list add guys who got rejected previously, guys who had a shitty session, and guys who were assholes and got kicked out.

 

[ExpCharlee]

and yet so many of you act so surprised when we ask you to pay deposits...lol. we can't win :/

 

[Man Mountain]

Guys used to openly post about booking with two different ladies at once. It was a big joke, they called it "having a plan B". If the first one didn't look so great they would just walk away and go see the other. If the first one was fine, they no call/no showed the other.

Another member and I used to post about having a "plan B" but I can tell you that is most definitely not how we operated. It simply meant keeping a list of numbers handy of alternative ladies from the same relative geographical area that we could call should the lady we had booked flaked on us at the last minute. Sometimes that last minute plan B would work out and be awesome. Sometimes you'd end up rolling snake eyes A few times, I just ended up at a storefront operation like spa540 (long gone) or Mystique (long gone) or the Fox Den (see my old review of Stephanie Fox ). I never purposefully stood up any SP and I never double booked for a "plan B."

 

[Abby Ryds]

I have had up to 7 no shows in one day..Everytime they say they are at the cross streets I give them..I look, they aren't there. It feels so creepy when some anonymous person who obviously doesn't have good intentions is trying to get your address, buzzer, unit number, hotel room ECT..For me the deposit has nothing to do with the actual money. It is to protect myself from these characters. It could be sabotage but it could also be someone with far more sinister intention s.
I would love to understand the thought process but I fear my sanity because trying to understand insane people will make you insane.

 

[badbadboy]

A couple of SP's I used to see were undecided about coming back from hiatus or semi retirement and were totally unreliable. Constantly cancelling on me and once just 10 min beforehand just as I parked nearby.

Not once did I bail on a plan B. Plan A's were great in bed but total flakes.

It's just not worth the extra effort trying to see these types. It cranks up the frustration level when it's supposed to be a fun date.

Now I only book with people who are always professional and know how to treat a regular client with mutual respect.

 

[westwoody]

Another member and I used to post about having a "plan B" but I can tell you that is most definitely not how we operated.

Is this the pooning equivalent of Whataboutism? Notallmenarelikethatism.
You didn't do it, that's great.
But don't extrapolate that because you didn't, nobody else did. Or continues to.

 

[nightswhisper]

1. Some guys get cold feet due to nerves.

2. Some more guys get cold feet due to finances.

3. Some guys masturbate.

4. Some guys like the fantasy.

5. Some guys get lazy.

6. A lot of guys are assholes.

 

[Ms Erica Phoenix]

1. Some guys get cold feet due to nerves.

2. Some more guys get cold feet due to finances.

3. Some guys masturbate.

4. Some guys like the fantasy.

5. Some guys get lazy.

6. A lot of guys are assholes.

7. Some guys double or triple book to get it sooner, cheaper, younger...

 

[johnnydepth]

I've been stood up many times by providers, cancelled on at the last minute, even showed up at the door and got no response. I've never bailed on an appointment I've made, however I never book any further out than the same day. If I can't get in the day I call I don't book for the following day or down the road because my days are busy and I would likely have to cancel.

 

[Man Mountain]

Is this the pooning equivalent of Whataboutism? Notallmenarelikethatism.
You didn't do it, that's great.
But don't extrapolate that because you didn't, nobody else did. Or continues to.

Actually, it was more like feeling the need to defend myself against being painted by the same brush because I used to post about having a "plan B" but most certainly not how you defined it.

 

[jgg]

90% of all traffic accidents occur on the way to see a SP...don't ya know?

 

[The cat call]

Rubbing one one out pre date and then loosing steam makes Spence to me

 

[Relax10]

I've been stood up many times by providers, cancelled on at the last minute, even showed up at the door and got no response. I've never bailed on an appointment I've made, however I never book any further out than the same day. If I can't get in the day I call I don't book for the following day or down the road because my days are busy and I would likely have to cancel.

People can understand why you feel this way. I have had an SP cancel on me and then we tried to link up later that day but no dice. Hand Central Station that day all aboard.

I have a co worker who prefers Azn establishments and a big reason is for the same day booking. He was frustrated with the Indy SP's process because of the timing understanding their need for screening. For him the screening process, add in reference checks and during these times before confirmation of you her schedule books up and it may take a few days or more before you see her. So he got tired of it. He gives me shit cause one week I had a helluva time trying to book a few Indy SP's but our schedules didnt link up. I missed out but hey you roll the dice and sometimes it comes out bust but others your bursting everywhere on her. One great thing about the hobby is the amount of options unless your in the middle of nowhere and only got 2 SP's servicing in a town of 1000 men.

Its part of the hobby like it or not, to see some SP's you have to book out. Visiting SP's, thats another you may have to book out days in advance. Glad I did, Adisson was a gem, thats how every man wants a wife to be, my oh my. Patience can be a virtue. Ive seen some great Indy's after the process. In a perfect world everything will falls in line.

 

[lukom]

I generally try to book things same day (typically an hour prior), this way when I book it's 100% and don't have to worry about cancelling. I have been unable to see certain SP's because of this, but I'd rather go in with full certainty than to be in a position where I might have to cancel (due to something unforeseen).