Men won't get married anymore...

[87112]

These kinds of discussions never end well. Especially in the workplace when one questions why someone is still not married later in life. Cat fights! and grudges from comments.
I have learned to just hold my tongue and nothing nice to say just zip it.

 

[westwoody]

So many men fail to understand the core concept that underlies Canadian family law

Rufus, the article is in The Daily Mail and is about an English attitude.
What do you think of the picture I poached from imgur? We hear lots about deadbeat dads and the courts coming down on them while the feminazis cheer. But here in Manitoba there are lots of women who spit kids out and abandon them to foster care. One woman was on CBC last week bitching about how crappy Child and Family Services treated her daughter. If she is so concerned then why isn't she taking care of her daughter herself? Is it because she is a drunk substance abuser with no job or home? Why does she have six kids if she cannot even raise one?
Why is no criticism of her allowed? If a guy had six children by six partners and abandoned them the media would want him lynched.
This woman had six kids and abandoned them and the reporter was talking about getting her help and sympathy.
Do you not see the uneven judgement of society here?
Man abandons kids=throw him in jail, cancel his driver's license, garnishee his paycheque.
Woman abandons kids=it's a tragedy, get her help, let's raise money for her.

 

[Miss*Bijou]

No, there are differences, particularly with respect to assets brought into the relationship rather than acquired during it.

Thank you. Wasn't sure whether there were real differences.

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Asides from that, I'm so not interested in 'debating' about MRA's or the MRM. Hate all you want if it makes you feel better. Shrug.

And that's about the extent of it. I've no interest whatsoever in dealing with anyone arguing for this modern 'movement' and obviously the feeling is mutual, so why bother. I don't have a single male friend who'd ever behave or speak that way and they're perfectly capable of discussing men's issues like reasonable people and don't need to join the hate crusade aka MRM. (apparently that's a VERY hard distinction to make for some people here!) Knock yourselves out but all it leads to is a self fulfilling prophecy. Enjoy your bitterness and hate fest. Nothing sexier, it's a Babe magnet!!

I'll just keep entertaining myself as a reader not as a participant wasting my time. That site is a documentation of your twisted, dangerous 'movement' (cult?) and offers countless hours of disturbing examples of the MRM 'genre' of um 'activism', if that's what it can even be called. It's as hilarious as it's disturbing and epically discrediting:

Just one relatively mild (!!) recent example. No shortage, the sites been documenting for a few years. (look up the honey badgers here since the Calgary expo did just expel them 'for no reasons' obviously!)

Anyway, much more interesting..


http://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/...through-rape-offers-tips-to-aspiring-rapists/


Cheers!

 

[westwoody]

And to hear and read women blasting men who air out these concerns is just fucking ridiculous. Seems with some women, that is. Not all. The two escorts here who have replied with more insults and damaging remarks are two great examples of what I'm talking about.

Yeah, surprising to see that level of hatred and man hating on a hooker board of all places. Good to see them showing their true colours though.

 

[Cappa]

Hi,

I've been seriously considering raising children as a single father, and I looked up surrogacy.ca and they quote ~$4000 for fees and this doea not include reimbursing the surrogate mother.

Has anyone tried? Do you know of a more accurate estimation on the total cost to enlist a surrogate mother in Canada?

Thanks

 

[Tugela]

Hi,

I've been seriously considering raising children as a single father, and I looked up surrogacy.ca and they quote ~$4000 for fees and this doea not include reimbursing the surrogate mother.

Has anyone tried? Do you know of a more accurate estimation on the total cost to enlist a surrogate mother in Canada?

Thanks

Unless she decides to keep the kid, then you are on the hook for child support for the next 19+ years.

Not a good idea.

 

[Cappa]

Unless she decides to keep the kid, then you are on the hook for child support for the next 19+ years.

Not a good idea.

Umm, surrogate mothers battling for the rights is the worst case scenario.

I want a kid so of course I'm going to provide the best that I can afford

 

[sybian]

As far as I know at least a few years ago, it was illegal to "Hire" a woman to have your kids.
Invitro fertilization runs about 20,000 a shot with a target rate of about 4 embryos, which can be frozen for a fee.
The laws may have changed since then, here in Canada...In the U.S. the laws vary from State to State.
Florida for example your required to pay all medical bills, and her living costs for the duration of the pregnancy....Which are capped...Somewhat.

 

[SeductiveCameronDEL]

snip...on a hooker board of all places...

WOW. A 'hooker board'. MAD respect, hey?

I think what you're missing is that we don't hate men, we dislike any human being who treats us with contempt. I don't care what your gender is; you treat me like shit, I'm not gonna be nice to you. Why would I have that kind of negativity around? Go be miserable and negative somewhere else. Natalia got it right.

This thread is totally off topic now lol

 

[Moderator-1]

Do we shut this thread down or can someone bring the discussion back on track?
Control yourselves, people!

 

[sybian]

I was married once........I suppose I'd do it again ,if I met the right girl.
She'd have to put up with me vanishing for days at a time,....She'd have to know how to drive nails, ride horses, and be ok with a fluctuating bank account.
Oh!....And DD's with a heart shaped ass, wouldn't be so bad either.

 

[sybian]

I'd be careful with that....Foster parenting is a very honourable thing, and helping kids that need a home has nothing but my respect.
When you go to adopt them, even after Fostering ....You've invited the Government into your home, your history, and your personality.
You'll be dealing with people who can hardly run their own lives, calling the shots that will affect your own for over a year.
Fostering is one thing...Adopting is another ..And it's a brand new ,Government run Shitshow.

 

[myselftheother]

Marriage is old fashioned and nothing more than an ancient ritual to appease the gods and your families' religious beliefs, or for a social contract that binds two people together in financial and emotional bondage again to appease outdated and archaic social statutes.

I've been married, and divorced...she tried so hard to take me to the cleaners, but had no leg to stand on since she was the one that 'broke the contractual vows' when she was being a sugarbabe to her old sugardaddy. Good thing I was wise to it before her hooks ripped me apart.

 

[76duster]

Boys.... marriage is fine. Just don't marry the typical female who can't earn a decent living because she was too lazy to take the hard courses in post-secondary and took a basket-weaving degree like English or Creative Writing, or is expecting you to support her so she can play "mommy" and do her life's dream of raising a family - they'll say "it's all for you!". Yeah right. Most men don't set out to have kids as a goal in life, it usually happens by circumstance of their SO wanting that.

Cuz when you marry a lazy girl or one who can't earn a decent living, and you knock her up, you'll be paying for the rest of your life to support her if she splits on you. That's because the courts usually award custody to the wife and expect the man to pay. Does that make any sense? You don't get your kids and you are penalized financially for it. It should be the other way around, if you want the kids, you pay your partner to have them.

 

[victoriaguylive]

Hi,

I've been seriously considering raising children as a single father, and I looked up surrogacy.ca and they quote ~$4000 for fees and this doea not include reimbursing the surrogate mother.

Has anyone tried? Do you know of a more accurate estimation on the total cost to enlist a surrogate mother in Canada?

Thanks

looked into and started the process first surrogate posted online how much money shed take us for so we doped her and complained to cfc second surogate the setus upwith wanted 2600 a month living expenses when she was already getting child support alimony and income from her buisness that she did nothing at
it is illegal in canada to pay a surrogate and that would be paying as far as i was consernd the surrogancy company condoned her request saying well she needs to live ! thats more than i make a month so id avoid surrogancy unless you are loaded

 

[Cappa]

Thanks for sharing your experience. I appreciate it.

Legality- well, I would be hypocritical if I said I cared about that.
Sources from UK & US gives various quotes ranging from 60-140k.

If it's 2600/month * 10 + upfront costs, then I think I can cover that when the time comes.

Thanks again!

 

[Escapist]

On the lighter side, I've heard of guys who were relieved the ex was "only" getting 50% - because the wife had been spending much more!

Fuckin' Eh! I pay a full pull of spousal and child support based on an income of approximately 300K per year. It works out to about $2,000 less per month than my fat lazy ex spent.

I now have a beautiful young hot girlfriend who doesn't bug me too much about money, and I can go for a relaxing rub n tug whenever I want. (No FS out of respect to girlfriend)