No problem!
All the best to you Stacey and I certainly agree I will not "call you gracious" again.
All the best to you Stacey and I certainly agree I will not "call you gracious" again.
Meeting the Wife
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What the fuck!!!
For someone who doesn't judge people, you did an awful lot of it in this thread and with no sense of direction, I might add.
Yo!!! What's with the hostility? You're getting on in age. Look into some Hormone Replacement Therapy for those mood swings. Worked wonders for my mother. Careful, someone might call you gracious it might pitch you over the edge. *sheesh*
Heaven forbid SPs being kind to one another.Sexy Stacey said:
I see your handle is highlighted red.Sexy Stacey said:
The fact that Angel has severed her business relationship with her client has nothing to do with his marital status but that it poses a serious conflict of interest with her benevolent ambitions in her personal life.Sexy Stacey said:
You're not impressing anyone with this BS.Sexy Stacey said:
For someone who doesn't judge people, you did an awful lot of it in this thread and with no sense of direction, I might add.
Yo!!! What's with the hostility? You're getting on in age. Look into some Hormone Replacement Therapy for those mood swings. Worked wonders for my mother. Careful, someone might call you gracious it might pitch you over the edge. *sheesh*
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Holy fuck... if you are going to use people's words to back up an argument, then don't take it out of context. Here's the lady's complete thought:
"As I mentioned, I don't judge other peoples actions. I do judge my own. I cannot betray a friend or even an acquaintance. I have no delusions, and realize that he will find another lady to meet his needs. I simply don't feel right about being involved in a relationship of sorts when I know the other party. I wouldn't be able to look her in the eye when we worked together. More importantly, I wouldn't be able to look at myself in the mirror and like what I seen in my own eyes."
Yeesh.
NM
Idiotic statement by someone who really missed the point of the original question. Again, you missed the point. A relationship can be built on a number of factors and it doesn't have to be man-woman. In this case, Lady Companion indicated a "relationship of sorts" (again you've taken things out of context). In this case, it is appropriate that the lady is referring to a client-provider or financial-based relationship. So in that context, she's not at all off base in her statements.I read it all and I disagree with you. She is delusional and judgemental. Her words are her justification. Since when is accepting money for sex a "relationship". That is about as disfuctional as it gets. Would-be-heros like you Nookie, simply "enable" her. This is the dynamic and the subtle manipulation that prostitutes pray on with their clients. Put you plastic sword away you King-Shit-of-Turd-Island and learn to live with the fact that others may not always agree with you.
Serenity Now!
Peace.
Nookie Monster
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Meeting the wife is very exciting!!!
So far so good, meeting the wife is very exciting, coz i can also unload her husband's GUN.
So far so good, meeting the wife is very exciting, coz i can also unload her husband's GUN.
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So I guess it is impossible to have a relationship beyond transactional exchange with your counsellor, personal coach, financial advisor or car mechanic?
I'll tell that my car guy of the last 3 years next time he wants to show me his baby pictures...
I know it is pathetic. At the time, I rationalized it by thinking that their marriage was already over and it was just a matter of time before he got up the courage to tell her. Its one of the oldest stories in the book and it is pathetic that I bought into it so completely. (A warning out there for anyone else who might be tempted!)
I think we are using the world "relationship" in different meanings.
The various web definitions state that relationship is:
(i) a relation between people; (ii) a state of connectedness between people (especially an emotional connection) and (iii) a state involving mutual dealings between people or parties or countries
That is the broad definition Lady Companion, myself and your other opponents in this discussion are using.
You seem to be focusing strictly on romantic relationship. Or deeper friendship, in the context of friendship versus acquaintance. And yes, in that case I concur.
My main point was that for many of us who prefer regular clients, we usually have plenty of warm feelings about them and we do care, like a psychologist or a coach, so the general definition of a relationship applies.
i'm kinda with stace on this one
Furthermore, professional ethics should put the customer first. Much like a lawyer, doctor, accountant..the client has built a relationship of trust with you, paid your rent a few times over and like any professional service, good hookers are hard to find. What happened to customer loyalty? Not to mention, there is no hypocrisy in your relationship, he accepts you for who you are. You certainly can't say that about your so-called women friends.
As a full-time pro, personal activities should not be compromising your ability to deliver service. And in your case, the situation is easily remedied with discreet donations (double entendre not intended!).
Alternatively, find a rich guy & get married..same bs, just society-approved..have your cake & eat it too or in your case, cucumber sandwiches.
Therein lies the problem. Fact: this line of work is not accepted within society particularily with the supposed magnanimous philanthropist set. Just earlier this year, a group of Vancouver strippers had their fundraising efforts thwarted by the Breast Cancer Society of Canada..and stripping is 100% legal & regulated. I'm going to take a wild guess here and say that if your ladies-that-lunch set knew what you did, the butler would be (ahem) escorting you curbside..err, that'd make em nervous, lol..well, you get the picture.
Furthermore, professional ethics should put the customer first. Much like a lawyer, doctor, accountant..the client has built a relationship of trust with you, paid your rent a few times over and like any professional service, good hookers are hard to find. What happened to customer loyalty? Not to mention, there is no hypocrisy in your relationship, he accepts you for who you are. You certainly can't say that about your so-called women friends.
As a full-time pro, personal activities should not be compromising your ability to deliver service. And in your case, the situation is easily remedied with discreet donations (double entendre not intended!).
Alternatively, find a rich guy & get married..same bs, just society-approved..have your cake & eat it too or in your case, cucumber sandwiches.
you have an interesting perspective of life and people. Belonging to an "Escort" Review Board seems to bother you immensely. Calling someone a prostitute is one thing but the way you use the term is offensive to me in that you believe that choosing this profession then removes any ethics or values from their lives.I was thinking "moron" applied to you Nookie, but in reality you are more like a yappy little lap dog. To you, I suppose she also possess great chastity and rectitude when she files her tax returns. You are ignorant, there is no point debating with you.
Go piss on someone else's leg.
Let's use your same argument on yourself. What sort of sick person pays for sex with a prostitute? You must have a very unloving dysfunctional family life that can only be satisfied by paying for sexual services from prostitutes and whores.
Me? I don't have a problem choosing to be with quality ladies. I get more than sexual services but I can honestly say I have met some great ladies during my pooning days.
Peace... believe it
Nookie Monster
Nookie will play the part of the yappy lap dog for quality ladies like Szabina.
Woof woof!!! pant pant pant!!!
Szabina, my mistress. Thanking you for petting and stroking Nookie
I've calmed down now NM
Definition of Cheating
I suppose I view 'cheating' as a betrayal of trust. No, I don't feel as though I am doing anything wrong in providing a service, and I thoroughly enjoy entertaining both gentlemen and couples. I am not lying or betraying anybody I know. My friends and family all know about my playtime activities, and I don't lead a double life.
I don't view any specific act as being cheating. I think of betrayal or cheating as more of an emotional/psychological thing. I personally believe hiding actions and lying to be cheating moreso than any physical act. The lies, not the activity are the true breach of trust.
It is really none of my business what a gentleman says or does to keep his
activities clandestine. Whether his partner knows or not, approves or not, or knows and prefers to burrow her head in the sand. Those dynamics are about them and not me. I don't know her, and therefore, I am not betraying her in any way. He may or may not be.
Knowing the wife throws another dynamic into the equation. Assuming she doesn't know about his playtime activities, I would have to maintain a less than truthful relationship with her. I may never have the need to directly lie, as it is very unlikely she would broach the subject head on. However, avoiding truths on a regular basis would be far to draining to my psyche. You are right....this is about me, and not about either of them.
Others can choose to do what they like. Personally, I can't live a life which involves continued lying. To maintain discretion of course.....but now I am simply removing myself from the situation so that I don't have to continue with the lies, mistruths, or truth avoidance which will undoubtedly ensue due to my relationship with the lady.
This thread wasn't started as a means to help me decide what to do. I believe I was quite clear in my initial post that I had made up my mind. I don't second guess my ethics. I was merely interested to hear how other felt or what they would do in a similar situation. There certainly have been some interesting dynamics and an entire spectrum of opinions.
I truly value everybody's comments - from those who have similar view to me to those who have no concept of where my value structure comes from or what it means to me. All the points were all equally valid, and I respect everybody's opinion, regardless of where it falls in relation to mine.
Some people think this turned into a mess, but it actually accomplished just what I was looking for. I wanted to hear others opinions, and that is what I got. I wasn't looking for approval, justification, or convincing to change my mind. I wanted to glean a little insite as to the internal workings of other peoples minds. I got exactly what I was hoping for - so thank you to everybody. We may not always agree, but all our points are equally valid.
I'm a huge believer in doing what is right for you - as long as you aren't infringing upon the rights and freedoms of others, and aren't being hurtful or malicious in the process. Shakespeare once said "To thine own self be true" It was, and still is a tremendous philosophy to live by.
I suppose I view 'cheating' as a betrayal of trust. No, I don't feel as though I am doing anything wrong in providing a service, and I thoroughly enjoy entertaining both gentlemen and couples. I am not lying or betraying anybody I know. My friends and family all know about my playtime activities, and I don't lead a double life.
I don't view any specific act as being cheating. I think of betrayal or cheating as more of an emotional/psychological thing. I personally believe hiding actions and lying to be cheating moreso than any physical act. The lies, not the activity are the true breach of trust.
It is really none of my business what a gentleman says or does to keep his
activities clandestine. Whether his partner knows or not, approves or not, or knows and prefers to burrow her head in the sand. Those dynamics are about them and not me. I don't know her, and therefore, I am not betraying her in any way. He may or may not be.
Knowing the wife throws another dynamic into the equation. Assuming she doesn't know about his playtime activities, I would have to maintain a less than truthful relationship with her. I may never have the need to directly lie, as it is very unlikely she would broach the subject head on. However, avoiding truths on a regular basis would be far to draining to my psyche. You are right....this is about me, and not about either of them.
Others can choose to do what they like. Personally, I can't live a life which involves continued lying. To maintain discretion of course.....but now I am simply removing myself from the situation so that I don't have to continue with the lies, mistruths, or truth avoidance which will undoubtedly ensue due to my relationship with the lady.
This thread wasn't started as a means to help me decide what to do. I believe I was quite clear in my initial post that I had made up my mind. I don't second guess my ethics. I was merely interested to hear how other felt or what they would do in a similar situation. There certainly have been some interesting dynamics and an entire spectrum of opinions.
I truly value everybody's comments - from those who have similar view to me to those who have no concept of where my value structure comes from or what it means to me. All the points were all equally valid, and I respect everybody's opinion, regardless of where it falls in relation to mine.
Some people think this turned into a mess, but it actually accomplished just what I was looking for. I wanted to hear others opinions, and that is what I got. I wasn't looking for approval, justification, or convincing to change my mind. I wanted to glean a little insite as to the internal workings of other peoples minds. I got exactly what I was hoping for - so thank you to everybody. We may not always agree, but all our points are equally valid.
I'm a huge believer in doing what is right for you - as long as you aren't infringing upon the rights and freedoms of others, and aren't being hurtful or malicious in the process. Shakespeare once said "To thine own self be true" It was, and still is a tremendous philosophy to live by.
Can't go wrong quoting the Bard. I find this one and others more suitable to your original post.
Shakespeare said:
Or perhaps something a little more contemporary. Good advice for anyone stuck in a fantasy.Blanche DuBois-A Streetcar Named Desire said:
Ocean's Eleven said:
there is a God after allNo, that would be pointless. Did you? That is funny Zsabina, now I have yet another reason to pass on you. I have met you several times before with mutual friends and believe me, I will avoid it the next time around.
It only means more time for polite respectful smart men to see Szabina...
Nookie
No, that would be pointless. Did you? That is funny SZabina, now I have yet another reason to pass on you. I have met you several times before with mutual friends and believe me, I will avoid it the next time around. I was not impressed then, and I am not impressed now.
OK BeDaMon now I'm intrigued, tell us what are those reasons that have made you pass on Szabina? feel free to open a thread if you don't want to take over this one but I figure you've already done that haha.
on another note, good on ya Lady Companion, you are a TRUE Lady with great life values.
I'm so holding the banner for the 'ethical slut' bandwagon. That book helped me lift up out of unhealthy, unfufilling serial monogamy and into a diverse, awesome ethical state of polyamorous fun. Not to mention cleaning up some of the residual guilt over owning my sexuality and having fun w/my sugar daddy. I'm surprised it's not the fulltime SP's bible.
