Face value? or is this from a scalper. I Know in Vancouver the max prices here were 165.
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Oh, you were joking! Ok, now I'm laughing. I'm glad you said that, as my feelings were indeed hurt.
wilde, how many classes left in your esl course?
I wouldn't be surprised if that was face value. Toronto is so bloody expensive when it comes to entertainment. I shudder to think how much club seats for the Leafs games are.
1) If he could he would.
2) The guy is a moron and I am told most morons have trouble with humour because they just don't get it, get it?
Let's leave the poor sod alone, shall we?
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Trackstar, Maybe times have changed and im only right about current day recording artists. Im sure artists made more money on record sales before P2P software. But even then, im 99% sure I saw a documentary on Run DMC and they were quoted saying they made upwards of $80,000 a night during their tours.
I call bullshit on this - they wouldn't tour if there wasn't a buck to be made. Yes tours are to promote albums, but give your head a shake if you think that they don't make money.
I can see the shift happening, so you're not wrong. I just read that the current shift has it at 60-40 Ratio of revenue from touring:album sales. Bands such as AC/DC, the Beatles, Rolling Stones, et al still make multi-millions on album sales and royalties and that is their bread and butter (some bands/artists for obvious reasons).
Indy bands who have a good following also make their money on CD sales and merchandise, as clubs/promoters pay dick for original acts (My band sells out mid-sized nightclubs and we're lucky to get $300/gig). When I was in a metal band in the 90's, I was in a well known band that was on tv, had radio play and headlined all over. We made a shit load selling our own cd's and t-shirts, but after expenses barely made enough from the show itself to break even. We played some shows in Europe and made ten times as much playing at small pubs. In the US it was still pay to play at the clubs. Sometimes we made a bit of money, sometimes not, but sold a good 50 cd's/night in smaller venues, 200+ in larger venues.
I looked up album sales for several bands and they still do pretty well, but obviously not as well as before the p2p emergence. I can only imagine that if bands are to make their fortunes, then ticket prices will gradually increase with no end in sight. Add another thing to the list that the working class will not be able to afford. That is too bad, as everyone should be able to experience the electricity of seeing their all time favourite band perform live
For the Run/DMC comment, was that net? If so, that's insane!
So are you being hostile just for the sake of being hostile?
So are you being hostile just for the sake of being hostile?
I am in "the business" - I can confirm this. Some popular artists have a NET LOSS from records. And dont forget about merchandise...
What I am hearing is that the traditional record companies are now pushing bands to sign with Indy labels. The Indy label would pay for recording costs and would submit finished recordings to the major labels. In turn, the band would sign on with the Indy label as a, "Development" deal. The major label would only be responsible for marketing and distribution. A percentage of the revenue would go to the Indy label (15% standard), a major percentage would go to the major label (50%, 15% to the agent, 10% to the lawyer and a small percentage left for the band (10% if lucky). The band is responsible for the cost of videos and touring. For new bands breaking out, typically, is this correct?
From what I am also learning, due to the p2p emergence, labels are now taking a large chunk of touring revenues as well?
I'm not sure what your function in the business is, but hopefully you can provide a bit of insight regarding the above. Also, who maintains ownership of the music? I can't imagine the label would when only providing marketing and distribution?
Without directly flaming any single individual on here (this time- lol), certain 'experts' that frequent this board all too frequently (as in, 'get a life' too frequent), would do well with their own am Talk Radio show, probably late night, in the golden shower, 'wee' hours.
Thereby the world could benefit from their vast expertise.
Thereby the world could benefit from their vast expertise.
What's the matter princess? Get bored playing dress up so you decide to cause shit here instead?
Go out ad buy yourself a new pair of panties. Maybe that will make you feel better. Be a good "girl" and shoo now.Or go play with your cat some more
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You know some of these threads are alot like watchin grade 2's arguing in the playground......how about all involved get a grip...is it possible??
hmmm lets see if the average was for Ticket sales $200 and the number of tickets sold was 20,000 that equates to $4,000,000 for just one tour stop. Thats just ticket sales alone. You are forgeting the music sales at the venue and all other merchandising ( tshirts, sweaters, hats, books etc -thats the multi million dollar section).
The venue will generally take a % of the gate (to pay for the rental of the facility, generally parking and food/ drink/ meal concessions.
Average length of a World tour spans usually 80-100 locations around the globe. Many holding more than 20,000 seats. Try 40,000-80,000 now you are looking at huge dollars 80,000 seats at $200 each thats $16,000,000 for that stop alone.
Yes there is a cost in wages for the roadies, souvenir sellers, marketers and everyone involved in the tour, plus the transportation costs and logistics of setting up the shows. But thats just a portion.
Why do you think that ticket prices have jumped so Astronomically in the past 20 years. for $50 (which was the concert norm) in 1989 to $250 a ticket going into 2009.
They make money on the tour selling to sold out buildings. If they don't they lose money it's a balance. But they will never cancel a whole tour because one place didn't sell out.. they may cancel the concert date or reschedule it. But not the tour. Tours get cancelled because of serious problems.
Why do you think bands like the Rolling Stones go out on World tours every 2-3 years it's not because of the albums and promoting them it's all about the Benjamins baby.. They make Millions upon millions of dollars from their tours.. and people will still pay top dollar to see a 65+ year old man strut across the stage singing "I can't get no Satisfaction." Sure you can Mick.. just think of the money mate!!!!
The venue will generally take a % of the gate (to pay for the rental of the facility, generally parking and food/ drink/ meal concessions.
Average length of a World tour spans usually 80-100 locations around the globe. Many holding more than 20,000 seats. Try 40,000-80,000 now you are looking at huge dollars 80,000 seats at $200 each thats $16,000,000 for that stop alone.
Yes there is a cost in wages for the roadies, souvenir sellers, marketers and everyone involved in the tour, plus the transportation costs and logistics of setting up the shows. But thats just a portion.
Why do you think that ticket prices have jumped so Astronomically in the past 20 years. for $50 (which was the concert norm) in 1989 to $250 a ticket going into 2009.
They make money on the tour selling to sold out buildings. If they don't they lose money it's a balance. But they will never cancel a whole tour because one place didn't sell out.. they may cancel the concert date or reschedule it. But not the tour. Tours get cancelled because of serious problems.
Why do you think bands like the Rolling Stones go out on World tours every 2-3 years it's not because of the albums and promoting them it's all about the Benjamins baby.. They make Millions upon millions of dollars from their tours.. and people will still pay top dollar to see a 65+ year old man strut across the stage singing "I can't get no Satisfaction." Sure you can Mick.. just think of the money mate!!!!
Yea dude I have kidsYou watch grade 2's arguing in the playground???
Point taken, it is possible.
