Marc Emery

[squid]

I'm surprised there haven't been any threads about Marc Emery's sentencing. I'm not anti-American but I'm also not a supporter of the decriminalization of pot, in part because I'm not informed enough to decide if it's the best option.

But I find it ludicrous that our government would allow the extradition of a Canadian citizen to the U.S. to spend 5 years in a Federal prison for an offense our government deems not worthy of pursuing.

What's going on ?

 

[spotted dick]

While I wholeheartedly support the decriminalization of simple position and think the US strategy on drug control is seriously flawed don't feel too sorry for Mr. Emery. He'll likely serve little if any of his sentence in US custody (he'll be transfered back to Canada and paroled forthwith) and this week's events have been great publicity for his cause.

 

[odin]

I'm surprised there haven't been any threads about Marc Emery's sentencing. I'm not anti-American but I'm also not a supporter of the decriminalization of pot, in part because I'm not informed enough to decide if it's the best option.

But I find it ludicrous that our government would allow the extradition of a Canadian citizen to the U.S. to spend 5 years in a Federal prison for an offense our government deems not worthy of pursuing.

What's going on ?

I agree with you. I'm ashamed at our government for allowing the DEA to come in and walk all over our culture and philosophy.

I will also say that his wife is pretty hot.

 

[spotted dick]

I will also say that his wife is pretty hot.

Noticed that as well. They showed her on the news today and damn! Nice hot little goth number Marc picked up for himself.

 

[Ironhead]

broke the law.....

He broke the law. Should pay for it. pretty stupid if you ask me.
Better ways to make your point. than that.
Why not run for office,. Change the law!!! Think about it.
No one is above the law.
I have no sympathy for him at all.Just another media pig.
OH Oh Oh why me!!!
Stuck his neck out and got cut off.
If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.

 

[odin]

Noticed that as well. They showed her on the news today and damn! Nice hot little goth number Marc picked up for himself.

She knows how to use her looks to her advantage. This one was for the legalization of pot movement.

Compare it to her campaign photo when she ran for the Green Party in the provincial election.

She's a smart lady.

 

[HankQuinlan]

He broke the law. Should pay for it. pretty stupid if you ask me.
Better ways to make your point. than that.
Why not run for office,. Change the law!!! Think about it.
No one is above the law.
I have no sympathy for him at all.Just another media pig.
OH Oh Oh why me!!!
Stuck his neck out and got cut off.
If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.

That has been his exact point. He is the founder of the Marijuana Party. He has devoted millions to publicizing his views, and will not shut up about it. His very business was a political protest.

Also a little inconsistent in your opinion. Tell him to to run for office, and then say "just another media pig?" What politician isn't a media pig? By your standards, those who went to jail for protesting slavery, demanding civil rights, suffragettes, etc.deserved it because they broke the law? Comparing Emery to Gandhi or Nelson Mandela would be a stretch, but I guess you feel they deserved imprisonment for "breaking the law" as well? How about that woman in Malaysia just sentenced to flogging for drinking a beer in a public place. She stuck her neck out, so she deserves no sympathy?

Just trying to follow your logic.

 

[HankQuinlan]

I'm surprised there haven't been any threads about Marc Emery's sentencing. I'm not anti-American but I'm also not a supporter of the decriminalization of pot, in part because I'm not informed enough to decide if it's the best option.

I am not a supporter of decriminalization either -- as Mexico and Argentina have just done. The answer is total legalization. If it is merely decriminalized, we do not get the main benefits -- the huge government income from taxation, the removal of criminal gangs and violence from the industry. It does provide some benefits -- no more risk of imprisonment for users, less money spent on prisons, but we could get so much more.

 

[HankQuinlan]

another photo of the lovely jodie

 

[treveller]

The War on Common Sense

... The answer is total legalization...

Thank you for your sanity and reason HQ.

I suspect the difference between the US, Canada and Europe is the quality of education for the general public. The better your education system, the more liberal your laws. A gross generalization in terms of drug laws of course with lots of exceptions like Mexico and Argentina.

How dangerous is heroin? A study of hospital patients suggests that only 5% of the population would have an addiction problem if it were readily and legally available. The kicker is, that 5% already has an addiction problem of some sort and those individuals may be better off using heroin than their current vice.

As for cocaine, a Simon Fraser study suggested it is not a problem for most users and the users who have a problem would have a problem with or without the cocaine.

If you doubt my comments on the studies then try asking some friends who have been in hospital and were given morphine or other painkillers. Most will tell you that they didn't like the effect that the drugs had. Most people reduce their own use faster than the medical staff want them to.

The laws we have against drug use do far more harm than good and every commission studying the laws has confirmed that.

 

[treveller]

Early Transfer and Parole?

I would not expect the US to allow an early transfer for Marc Emery. There are lots of idiot Americans who want to punish him for calling them idiots.

Interesting how people are most offended by an insult when it is true.

 

[booblover]

The guy is a complete idiot. He knew what would happen if he sold seeds in the US. He profited hugely from it. When after deliberately thumbing his nose at the US he is surprised that they would come after him?? I don't care how we in Canada decide to view pot it wasn't in Canada that he broke the law. The US gets to decide their laws and enforce them as they wish. I have no problem with Canada collecting him up and sending him south to go to court. He had more then the charge of marijuana production. There were charges of tax evasion and something else if I am not mistaken. As for the sentence of 5 years that would be the lighter side of the norm in Federal courts for production purposes. If he didn't want to be prosecuted then say no to selling in the US. As far as a martyr goes I have never seen one go crying to his martyrdom! All of this weeks publicity has been nauseous. He is whiner and I am quite tired of his belly aching. Shut the hell up and go do your time!
By the way I am not for the criminalization of pot but at this time it is a criminal offense and you have to live with the outcome of your decisions. I have with mine in the past as some of you know......

 

[aznboi9]

Dang, Mr Emery's done well.

 

[hunsperger]

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A gross generalization ...

If you doubt my comments...

it is and I do...

your analysis was totally self-serving, specious, convoluted, jingoistic and lacked critical objectivity...

Hunsperger...