Man who killed off-duty cop receiving PTSD treatment funded by Veterans Affairs

[Lo-ki]

DISGUSTING ​

HALIFAX—A Halifax man convicted of strangling an off-duty police officer and using a compost bin to dispose of her body is receiving treatment in prison for post-traumatic stress disorder — and it’s being funded by Veterans Affairs Canada.

The arrangement has drawn criticism from the victim’s aunt, Mandy Reekie Wong, who says veterans should be outraged that Christopher Garnier is getting funded treatment — even though he is not a veteran.

https://www.thestar.com/halifax/201...tsd-treatment-funded-by-veterans-affairs.html

 

[Addison Cortez]

Well, good!! At least they're helping somebody!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Jethro Bodine]

While I am all for helping those with mental illness, even those who commit heinous crimes, this is a very good example of a government program which was designed for one, thing being used for something completely unrelated because the policy was so badly defined.
The entire notion of benefits being available to family members because when one family member serves, the entire family serves, is honourable but this is not what the policy was meant for. It was meant for counselling the wife dealing with the husband with PTSD, the husband dealing with the wife who came back from her tour an addict, the kids who have to deal with the anger of a dad who came back without his legs. Not some guy who, just because his parent served (apparently his father has PTSD) and is messed up totally unrelated to his parent's service, receives benefits intended for real heroes and their loved ones.
Ridiculous yes but like so many improperly administered government programs, the fault lies with the bureaucrats who designed the parameters of the program and administer it

Cheers
J

 

[sybian]

While I am all for helping those with mental illness, even those who commit heinous crimes, this is a very good example of a government program which was designed for one, thing being used for something completely unrelated because the policy was so badly defined.
The entire notion of benefits being available to family members because when one family member serves, the entire family serves, is honourable but this is not what the policy was meant for. It was meant for counselling the wife dealing with the husband with PTSD, the husband dealing with the wife who came back from her tour an addict, the kids who have to deal with the anger of a dad who came back without his legs. Not some guy who, just because his parent served (apparently his father has PTSD) and is messed up totally unrelated to his parent's service, receives benefits intended for real heroes and their loved ones.
Ridiculous yes but like so many improperly administered government programs, the fault lies with the bureaucrats who designed the parameters of the program and administer it

Cheers
J

THIS!.......
There are so many very broken Veterans, who need those services, and are denied due to Doctors who are overworked, or have them on ignore, and don't diagnose, or misdiagnose.

" Take care of those who are the warrior, and return broken....as they have given of themselves and their souls in battle, to grant us our freedoms. When they are resting, and their pain has gone...then go out and save the rest of the world."

 

[nwtl]

 

[Addison Cortez]

Who are they/you to say someone doesn’t deserve treatment?!?

Clearly he’s a sociopath, IMO. You’re totally right about the actual veterans getting the help they DESERVE. I have ptsd too and I can’t find anyone that can help me.... the argument shouldn’t be about someone not deserving therapy, no matter what, I find THAT disgusting!! Arguing about money to treat people who deserve treatment is what’s disgusting and spending it on landscaping and tourism? (Of course I’m missing lots) Get a grip and fight about what’s important

 

[deathreborn]

could save alot of money if this stupid country still had the death penalty. down south he'd be in line for the needle since he killed a cop. instead he'll be out in less then 15 years ready to potentially kill another woman. animals like this need to be put down.

 

[Demon666]

This guy is claiming he got PTSD from killing the off duty police officer... we help even those kind of people?

 

[Lo-ki]

Well, good!! At least they're helping somebody!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS........
THIS JERK IS A COP KILLER.......
THE ONLY SUPPORT HE SHOULD GET IS FROM A CHAIR BEFORE ITS BEING KICKED OUT FROM UNDER HIM THEN HUNG.

I wonder how the family of Catherine Campbell feels about our Government helping murderers.....
This guy should rot in hell.......

And now the door is open for every Tom Dick and Harry to claim they have PTSD after committing a crime.

REST IN PEACE CATHERINE......OR WILL YOU......

 

[Addison Cortez]

YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS........
THIS JERK IS A COP KILLER.......
THE ONLY SUPPORT HE SHOULD GET IS FROM A CHAIR BEFORE ITS BEING KICKED OUT FROM UNDER HIM THEN HUNG.

I wonder how the family of Catherine Campbell feels about our Government helping murderers.....
This guy should rot in hell.......

And now the door is open for every Tom Dick and Harry to claim they have PTSD after committing a crime.

REST IN PEACE CATHERINE......OR WILL YOU......

Tell us how you really feel... Did you read the rest of the thread? Don’t yell at me.. clearly I’m being sarcastic

 

[treveller]

could save alot of money if this stupid country still had the death penalty. down south he'd be in line for the needle since he killed a cop. instead he'll be out in less then 15 years ready to potentially kill another woman. animals like this need to be put down.

There are so many problems with the death penalty that it makes no sense to even consider it.
- You are giving the government and the people who run it a way to directly and deliberately kill people.
- The costs of a politically, legally and practically functional execution system are significantly higher than keeping a person in jail for life.
- If we accept that there are times when we and the legal system should kill people, then there are a good number of people who will decide for themselves that there are even more people who should be killed and those people will do the killing. When you adopt legal execution you also legitimize murder.
- You can compensate somewhat for wrongful imprisonment but not for wrongful execution.
- Revenge is a simple minded and useless response to crime.

 

[80watts]

The cost of capital punishment is the price of a bullet for a murderer. Or a rope to hang the bastard. It is also a limit imposed on the general population that there are limits not to be exceeded, not to take another persons life no matter what. An eye for an eye. Simple justice.
A dog kills a human. This dog is put down/killed. A human kills a human and people want to rehabilitate the killer?? Punishment should fit the crime. You kill someone and get to live, and maybe get to walk the street in 15 to 25 years with good behaviour, all the time living under controlled conditions. The cost to taxpayers is what 50,000.00 a year to keep someone in jail?? Compare to an bullet that cost 1.00.
No people know they they should not murder another human being, even if they have mental problems like ptsd.

 

[storm rider]

The cost of capital punishment is the price of a bullet for a murderer. Or a rope to hang the bastard. It is also a limit imposed on the general population that there are limits not to be exceeded, not to take another persons life no matter what. An eye for an eye. Simple justice.
A dog kills a human. This dog is put down/killed. A human kills a human and people want to rehabilitate the killer?? Punishment should fit the crime. You kill someone and get to live, and maybe get to walk the street in 15 to 25 years with good behaviour, all the time living under controlled conditions. The cost to taxpayers is what 50,000.00 a year to keep someone in jail?? Compare to an bullet that cost 1.00.
No people know they they should not murder another human being, even if they have mental problems like ptsd.

As a trade off how about public stoning?Yeah I am serious.Say a murderer or a sicko child molester gets say 3 weeks of it.As in you get the clothes on you back and bread and water once per day whilst you are chained outside the courthouse 24 hours a day and SOCIETY gets the chance to deliver justice.If those people actually lived I bet they would never commit that crime again.

Stone some sense into them I say.

Kind of counter the the Lieberals policy of legal grass which leads to being stoned senseless and not paying attention to how inept our drama teacher PM is.

SR

 

[80watts]

Stoning like the old testament usually led to death. Even though it is a eye for eye punishment, it is the group dynamic, which could lead to bad cultural basis for canadian society. More thinking its like spur of the moment mob mentality, if when pushed in the wrong direction, can blow itself out of control. Riots...

You should read Robert Heinlein's book, Starship Troopers. Some of this was his personal opinions. Neat ideas in it. To vote you have to of served your country(military or civil service), then you get to vote. Capital punishment for murder and rape.

 

[jamasianman]

You're all not really informed of how the death penalty works. It actually costs around a million dollars for the the paperwork and drugs and the whole process. And 90k to keep them housed until they are injected. those who think they drag the prisoner the back of the shed and put a bullet in their head are very wrong, this isn't the 1940's. Modern capital punishment has that whole gallery that watches and the lethal injection has to be measured out per person depending on weight and size. Also last meal preparations, getting last rites and affairs in order, its actually a complicated process. Gone are the days of the "simple" methods of guillotine, death by hanging, or a firing squad.

I mean you think it would be cheaper to use a bullet instead of drugs, but that is how the modern day executions are now. They rarely use death by hanging or gas chamber, its considered too barbaric.

There's a segment of how Italy works in the movie Where to Invade Next, a documentary by Michael Moore. The italians in that movie state that if you have the death penalty it makes it tougher to value human life or something.

 

[Addison Cortez]

It’s amazing to me how many of you have a God complex. Shameful!!

 

[treveller]

And what about the police who kill people without justification? Should they be taken out behind the barn as well?

How about politicians who make choices knowing people will die as a direct result of those choices?

As for the death penalty as a deterrent, I understand it is close to totally ineffective. Feel free to produce some actual evidence to the contrary if you can but I understand most murderers aren't thinking too clearly about the consequences when they kill.

 

[80watts]

God complex... maybe
Life and Death. Interconnected. We want to live life, but refuse to see death in it. Could be why people are so affected by ptsd.
The oldest written codes have punishment for murder. Usually death.
The drugs. Witnesses to death sentences don’t want to see the convicted murderer struggle to live, so drugs are used to put the subject under and then leathal drugs are injected to kill the murderer. Sensitivity. The murderer got better than the victim of the crime. What can be more cruel than waiting years for your sentence of death to be carried out...

Better a quick bullet to the head/guiotine and the short and violent resultant struggle for life. Just as was done to the victim.

But then somebody has to clean it up.....or the drug dead body cleared away.

So the bullet is way cheaper and quicker, and it offends everyone sense of civility because it is so brutal. Life’s a bitch and then you die...... suck it up.....get over it etc....

You see now death becomes more personal..... you see you can die.... so in the meantime live your life....

One way to think about a prison term for a murderer is that he is being punished. He is still alive, being fed 3 meals a day and gets a nice comfortable cot. Shelter and food. And then there is hope... to get out. Yep even though convicted, the murderer got away with murder...

 

[Addison Cortez]

Everyone has excellent and all valid points. I am saying it is not yours or my decision to make and people would do well to remember this all day and just live your own life just as you say

 

[jgg]

As for the death penalty as a deterrent, I understand it is close to totally ineffective.

Maybe not a deterrent, but sure stops recidivism.