~*~ looks, service or attitude? ~*~

[ddcanz]

Attitude, service then looks. A good attitude makes someone much more beautiful.

Agreed.
A good attitude makes all the difference when it comes to service.
I've had good service but when it comes from a detached personality, or is too mechanical (although she maybe still hitting the high notes) then the session just sort of plods along and I can't wait to bolt.
Looks are very subjective and to each their own. I find "attractiveness" is a better indicator than straight-on "great looks". This can encompass sensuality, seductiveness, hair style, garb- maybe even just a great rack on a chick with plain features, etc. Hygiene is very important here. Without some attraction the session also stalls out. A good attitude helps here also.
So, in short and generally speaking for me, would be A/S/L in that order.

 

[Cami Parker]

It's funny how from the moment you meet someone their attractiveness (in your eyes) will steadily increase or decrease, depending on their personality and demeanour. I find that happens to me often... I'll meet someone I find generally physically attractive, but after 5 minutes of them flapping their gums all I can think is "you're a total asshole! Get away from me" while at the same time I can meet someone who's initial appearance may not be over whelming but within 5 minutes their charm, humor and intellect has made them the most attractive person in the room to me.

 

[Slapshot1]

It's funny how from the moment you meet someone their attractiveness (in your eyes) will steadily increase or decrease, depending on their personality and demeanour. I find that happens to me often... I'll meet someone I find generally physically attractive, but after 5 minutes of them flapping their gums all I can think is "you're a total asshole! Get away from me" while at the same time I can meet someone who's initial appearance may not be over whelming but within 5 minutes their charm, humor and intellect has made them the most attractive person in the room to me.

This is a very good summary of what the real world has to offer when it comes to casual hookups between strangers. Reverse the roles and it's essentially the same scenario.
Fact is, a lot of men don't know how to communicate with women.
Listening and actually paying attention to what they have to say versus focusing on how quick you can get them in the sack goes a long way.
For being one that retired from the chase, a guy sees everything that goes on in the bars and lounges in a night. More often than not, the attractive women are still drawn like a tractor beam to the arrogant assholes that show up with their peacock feathers out in full bloom. This is a common sight with the younger crowd, and I see the trend flop amongst the older crowd as most of the time, the attractive person is engaged with someone who isn't maybe the best looking person at the table.
As people get older, I believe looks will only go so far and they probably have a great deal of experience in the "mating game"
Just a view from the real life side of the fence.

 

[P_e_r_b]

This is a very good summary of what the real world has to offer when it comes to casual hookups between strangers. Reverse the roles and it's essentially the same scenario.
Fact is, a lot of men don't know how to communicate with women.
Listening and actually paying attention to what they have to say versus focusing on how quick you can get them in the sack goes a long way.

I have no flipping clue as to why I'm sometimes attractive to women, and sometimes not. Sure, there are some things I figure they like, but I really can't figure it out. It must be the Ax effect. I'm sure that listening is good advice, but it's hard to hear over the voices inside my head...

 

[morementum]

Actually, you just proved her point. You said you would never pay what your budget deems to be "too much" and then mock what Angel refers to as the "subtleties of prostituion" clearly showing us that you don't appreciate these things, which is exactly what she said. I've niticed a trend on this board where people absolutely LOVE to take general statements and react with great hostility, as though the general statement was personally directed towards them. Typically this is impossible because in most cases the offended party was never even involved in the original conversation, they simply had a defence mechanism triggered by a statement that they feel is some type of reflection of them, on some level. Of course this is impossible. All the unnecessary negativity is so uncalled for. There's a respectful way to have a difference of opinion. She simply said she likes to price herself in a way that she meets suitors are more respectful to her. Then you said you'd never pay that price and proceeded to completely disrespect her. Basically proving the point you were trying to argue against. Something that didn't require any negative input to begin with, but you just decided to try to make a well established lady feel bad, as though she had intentionally offended you. Not only is that not gentleman-like in the least, but it was entirely unnecessary.

No hostility at all. I just find it more than a tad disingenuous that someone thinks being taken in to paying too much for something is actually a sign of distinction. That is about as subtle as a brick. There are as many "assholes" with thick wallets, more actually, than your regular guy who may not choose to pay extreme rates for something. I am lucky in that money stopped being an issue for me about a decade ago but value is instilled in my core and overpaying for anything, even driving a Lambo in Vegas, bothers me and it likely bothers most sane people. To say that someone who is duped into paying too much for something is somehow more sophisticated than someone who understands supply/demand and who is really in control in a market economy - well, not going to get any agreement but thanks for the lecture.

 

[Cami Parker]

The point is, it's not your decision what is "too much" and what isn't. You can decide who fits within your pooning budget and who doesn't, but to call some/someone "too much" is really rude. Just because it's not up to you to dictate anyone's value to them, especially not a woman's. It's not up to you to say anyone is "overpaying". And besides that, "overpaying" is all perception. You might think that $500/hr is "overpaying" my rate in Nevada was $3500/he, so you're actually getting a great deal. It depends on how you look at it. And I wasn't trying to lecture you, but believe it or not, SP's are free to have oppinions too! (Even the "overpriced" ones!) All I was saying is that I don't approve of men who jump down women's throats and try to tell other guys they're "stupid" for having a different budget than you. It's just really rude. No offence.

No hostility at all. I just find it more than a tad disingenuous that someone thinks being taken in to paying too much for something is actually a sign of distinction. That is about as subtle as a brick. There are as many "assholes" with thick wallets, more actually, than your regular guy who may not choose to pay extreme rates for something. I am lucky in that money stopped being an issue for me about a decade ago but value is instilled in my core and overpaying for anything, even driving a Lambo in Vegas, bothers me and it likely bothers most sane people. To say that someone who is duped into paying too much for something is somehow more sophisticated than someone who understands supply/demand and who is really in control in a market economy - well, not going to get any agreement but thanks for the lecture.

 

[ddcanz]

The point is, it's not your decision what is "too much" and what isn't. You can decide who fits within your pooning budget and who doesn't, but to call some/someone "too much" is really rude. Just because it's not up to you to dictate anyone's value to them, especially not a woman's. It's not up to you to say anyone is "overpaying". And besides that, "overpaying" is all perception. You might think that $500/hr is "overpaying" my rate in Nevada was $3500/he, so you're actually getting a great deal. It depends on how you look at it. And I wasn't trying to lecture you, but believe it or not, SP's are free to have oppinions too! (Even the "overpriced" ones!) All I was saying is that I don't approve of men who jump down women's throats and try to tell other guys they're "stupid" for having a different budget than you. It's just really rude. No offence.

Agreed on all points.
We all value ourselves and our time as we see fit, for whatever reason.
MM saying that someone gets "duped" into overpaying is a bit off the mark. We're not buying big screen TV's here- we're hooking up with real people here and all the human foilbles that go with them.
Do your research, make the call and hope everything works out for the best. If it does them you've established a relationship moving forward, if that's what you want. If not, then so be it. Move on.
Since when could there ever possibly be a guarantee that a hook up will always be perfect when two people get together? It's not that way in real life- why would it be any different with an SP?
Back to the point of this thread- IMO if the SP has a great attitude then the session more often than not works out- regardless of the rate.

 

[morementum]

The point is, it's not your decision what is "too much" and what isn't. You can decide who fits within your pooning budget and who doesn't, but to call some/someone "too much" is really rude. Just because it's not up to you to dictate anyone's value to them, especially not a woman's. It's not up to you to say anyone is "overpaying". And besides that, "overpaying" is all perception. You might think that $500/hr is "overpaying" my rate in Nevada was $3500/he, so you're actually getting a great deal. It depends on how you look at it. And I wasn't trying to lecture you, but believe it or not, SP's are free to have oppinions too! (Even the "overpriced" ones!) All I was saying is that I don't approve of men who jump down women's throats and try to tell other guys they're "stupid" for having a different budget than you. It's just really rude. No offence.

No, not rude at all. If I feel someone/something is priced way above the value point, then it is indeed "too much". It has nothing to do with a budget per se but the value ascribed to the potential experience. Really rude is being condescending and acting as if you are protecting some honour amongst an elite set of people who are above everyone else because they choose to not mind overpaying for something. Now, that is rude. No offence. :0

 

[toadsub]

Looks are what does give one an indication of whether She is your type. The pictures tell a thousand words. Just look at the mess you see around some of them and you get a pretty good idea of what you are going to walk into!

 

[windowshopr]

My ideal is looks>service>attitude. But my mindset changes when I'm leaving, and at that moment, I would go with service>looks>attitude. The reason being, this whole thing is supposed to be a fantasy for me. Of course I'd like to see the woman I find most attractive, and hopefully the service and attitude are on par. But when it's all said and done, the visual pales in comparison to the service. The service is what dictates enjoyment for me - assuming I would've walked if looks weren't my taste (but like so many others, wrong head is thinking at times).

In the real world, I'd 100% switch it to attitude>service>looks. Looks are fading. But a partner with great attitude and service(sex life) can boost their appeal.