Looks: most so are just normal looking

[Cami Parker]

Fair enough! I was only speaking from my personal experience, when I've been invited to duo's etc
To each their own.
I wasn't saying there's anything "bad" just, like the OP stated, regular.
A Louis Vuitton bag doesn't make a Coach bag "bad" ... But it's not the same thing either.
Like I said, I wasn't being rude. I have all girlfriends at all price points, all I was saying, to the OP, is that you shouldn't complain that you find a product "average" if the price you're paying is "average".
It doesn't make any sense, IMHO

Hi Cami

I kind of see where you are going with the wide variety and I guess I can comment. Not bragging but I've probably seen in excess of 100 SP's and over 500 dates as I tend to repeat when I find good ones over the past ten years. Wide variety of price points from the B n Go at $100 +, AMP's at $165 hr to Bricks and Mortar MP's $230 hr, Agency girls $260 hr, Indies from $220 to $450 hr and Sugar Daddy (1000's per month) scenario too.

Hate to break it to you but westwoody's comment below is the reality, at least for me its quite true. Like in any statistical situation one can find their own sweet spot and mine at this time tends to hover around the $250 - $350 mark. I have seen a few traveling SP's or some of the higher end priced ones and there really is no discernible difference between the $250 to $350 hour and the $450 hr SP. Oh they may have a nicer incall, nicer clothes and crack open a very good bottle of wine but once in the sheets its all about Service and Attitude. That's where the difference of an additional $100 to $250 hour makes zero difference in my experience.

I'm happy for you that your donation is $500 hour and with your HBO credentials that presumably brings a number of interested suitors. Regular pooners like myself and the others who have commented in this thread are active hobbyists and budget their time and money accordingly. You may call it "bargain shopping" but we tend to call it living on somewhat of a budget. I am sure there are hobbyists out there that will see $500 hour ladies every week but they like you are actually a small percentage of the hobby IMHO.

 

[escapefromstress]

Fair enough! I was only speaking from my personal experience, when I've been invited to duo's etc
To each their own.
I wasn't saying there's anything "bad" just, like the OP stated, regular.
A Louis Vuitton bag doesn't make a Coach bag "bad" ... But it's not the same thing either.
Like I said, I wasn't being rude. I have all girlfriends at all price points, all I was saying, to the OP, is that you shouldn't complain that you find a product "average" if the price you're paying is "average".
It doesn't make any sense, IMHO

A friend of mine just spent $800 on an hour with a porn star. She offered BBFS to the next client on the phone, while still in the room at the end of his appointment, because she was out of condoms. He also mentioned she was 'well past her prime' in the looks department.

Price point is really meaningless in regards to service imo.

 

[Cami Parker]

I don't believe that... Sorry!
He wouldn't have given her the money if he thought she was "well past her prime"
Get real.
But if, IN THEORY, that is true, what aspects do you think should be considered when deciding your price point, if not quality of service?

 

[Cami Parker]

Agree!! You can't just bet on it 100% but your chances are better... Personally, I would waaaaay rather be with someone who's a 6 or 7 in looks, and a 10 in service than the other way around, but a 10/10 is always nice whenever possible!

Interesting thread with many valid viewpoints. I completely agree that looks without attitude (you could say flash without substance) will leave you feeling disappointed. The few times I've tried a "young, tight and smooth skinned" girl, to borrow from an earlier post, the girl is banking on the thrill of nailing a 19yo and attention to service is almost entirely absent. I'm not saying young providers can't also be attentive! I just haven't found one yet.

That being said, to interject some reality, one can't ignore that physical attractiveness is important in this hobby! Unlike dating, you are exchanging cash for a service. If I play trombone in a marching band, I clean and polish the shit out of that trombone because presentation is just as important as how well I play it. I also find how somebody cares for their body an indicator of their personality. Its a roundabout way of saying if I'm spending my hard earned money, part of what I'm looking for is that the SP cares about their instument, their body.

As for the discussions on price point... I accept that you get what you pay for. I would also point out that more $$ doesn't automatically equate to better service. BC ferries keeps charging more and more but they still only take me across the straight.

 

[escapefromstress]

I don't believe that... Sorry!
He wouldn't have given her the money if he thought she was "well past her prime"
Get real.
But if, IN THEORY, that is true, what aspects do you think should be considered when deciding your price point, if not quality of service?

He's a reputable reviewer on several boards and has no reason to lie about what happened. I can PM you a link to the review if you like.

I haven't raised my rates in 8 years, which puts me at the lower end of the Caucasian massage provider rates. I keep my rates lower so my services are more easily affordable by guys who aren't wealthy. I've got twice the experience, knowledge and skill sets of most younger ladies like you, but I don't base my self worth on how much money I make. I'm a healer, and helping men feel better is more important to me than making a ton of money.

When I was providing FS, I charged more per hour than any other SP in the city where I worked, but I don't feel any less valuable now that I charge a fraction of that donation.

 

[Elmore]

I think when the OP speaks of average he may be referring to the average cute GND that you see in college but is not a 9 or a 10. Someone like Holly Taylor comes to mind. To my eyes she is cute...even attractive though not a stunner but I really love her naturalness. Does she look like the average woman on Robson? No. But still there are plenty of women walking around downtown Vancouver who would match her level of attractiveness. In contrast there are some escorts who have gone to great lengths and expense to alter their appearance to try to appear well above average but remove the make up, silicon and whatever other alterations they have paid for and you see what they really look like.

That is why people often speak of natural beauty...little to no make up and all natural body parts. Its an eye opener waking up to someone who looks significantly different in the morning than she did the evening before.

 

[westwoody]

He wouldn't have given her the money if he thought she was "well past her prime"

I saw two porn stars and both had to be paid well in advance at the time of booking.

No chance of a refund, none, so you make the best of it.

One was meh and one was "past her prime" but still worthwhile just for the experience.

 

[badbadboy]

Fair enough! I was only speaking from my personal experience, when I've been invited to duo's etc
To each their own.
I wasn't saying there's anything "bad" just, like the OP stated, regular.
A Louis Vuitton bag doesn't make a Coach bag "bad" ... But it's not the same thing either.
Like I said, I wasn't being rude. I have all girlfriends at all price points, all I was saying, to the OP, is that you shouldn't complain that you find a product "average" if the price you're paying is "average".
It doesn't make any sense, IMHO

So being a young lady with lots of fashion sense with many different options to wear daily, would you agree it's best to have many accessories to accompany your sense of style?

I like to wear dress pants, suits, jeans, casual dressy wear etc with different accessories. With jeans etc, I might have a nylon messenger bag or a backpack for my computer or iPad. If I am wearing a suit or dress pants and shirt the messenger bag dresses down my choice that day. Then I would get out my hand made leather briefcase with shoulder strap. It's the shit I get a lot of comments about it.

With that thought in mind, you related to Coach vs Louis Vuitton and they really are designer hand bags so I'm told So obviously you can not use the same Coach or the same Louis Vuitton bag for each and every outfit each day. The way I would switch up from backpack to messenger bag to Leather Briefcase; you would switch up your various handbags.

Back to the Meat of the topic

So some days pooner's may be in jeans with a backpack or messenger bag or they might be in a suit with a damn nice leather briefcase. They go where it's appropriate considering the dress code.

Some days BBB will shop at Walmart, some days at Nordstrom's in Seattle and some days at Harrod's in London. The reality is BBB would like to shop at Harrod's daily but finds Park Royal or London Drugs is just right. Same with my choice of SP's; I am happy with whom I visit and that's why I repeat with those ladies. They are all top shelf to me and none are just average either :nod:

 

[uncleg]

I don't believe that... Sorry!
He wouldn't have given her the money if he thought she was "well past her prime"
Get real.
But if, IN THEORY, that is true, what aspects do you think should be considered when deciding your price point, if not quality of service?

You under estimate the male ego.....met more then a few that spent, just to be able to say I did...

 

[LADY-VIA]

I don't believe that... Sorry!
He wouldn't have given her the money if he thought she was "well past her prime"
Get real.
But if, IN THEORY, that is true, what aspects do you think should be considered when deciding your price point, if not quality of service?

Sure he would have paseed over the cash and then used the words " well passed her prime" after.

Thats how men talk. It wouldnt surprise me if he also included after the " well past her prime comment"

" but I nailed the shit right out of her and she took it like a champ !!"

 

[Cami Parker]

For sure you're totally right!!!
...but then you wouldn't make a thread complaining about your choice either
Lol

So being a young lady with lots of fashion sense with many different options to wear daily, would you agree it's best to have many accessories to accompany your sense of style?

I like to wear dress pants, suits, jeans, casual dressy wear etc with different accessories. With jeans etc, I might have a nylon messenger bag or a backpack for my computer or iPad. If I am wearing a suit or dress pants and shirt the messenger bag dresses down my choice that day. Then I would get out my hand made leather briefcase with shoulder strap. It's the shit I get a lot of comments about it.

With that thought in mind, you related to Coach vs Louis Vuitton and they really are designer hand bags so I'm told So obviously you can not use the same Coach or the same Louis Vuitton bag for each and every outfit each day. The way I would switch up from backpack to messenger bag to Leather Briefcase; you would switch up your various handbags.

Back to the Meat of the topic

So some days pooner's may be in jeans with a backpack or messenger bag or they might be in a suit with a damn nice leather briefcase. They go where it's appropriate considering the dress code.

Some days BBB will shop at Walmart, some days at Nordstrom's in Seattle and some days at Harrod's in London. The reality is BBB would like to shop at Harrod's daily but finds Park Royal or London Drugs is just right. Same with my choice of SP's; I am happy with whom I visit and that's why I repeat with those ladies. They are all top shelf to me and none are just average either :nod:

 

[Cami Parker]

Hahahahaha
True story!

Sure he would have paseed over the cash and then used the words " well passed her prime" after.

Thats how men talk. It wouldnt surprise me if he also included after the " well past her prime comment"

" but I nailed the shit right out of her and she took it like a champ !!"

 

[badbadboy]

For sure you're totally right!!!
...but then you wouldn't make a thread complaining about your choice either
Lol

If you look at my reviews, I never go negative. If it's meh, it is usually YMMV without a connection between us.

 

[InnocentBoy]

I've paid up to 650$/h and looks wise i shoulda walked, seen better looking 200/hr girls

Maybe it's the city we're in because most of the pornstars/centerfolds I know alps escort. It Also comes down to your budget. You always get what you're paying for and most ladies will price themselves/their services accordingly. If you looked at some providers outside of the box of "standard Vancouver SP" you may find yourself pleasantly surprised. Regardless, it's unfair to paint "all" ladies with the same brush until you have met every single one of us....

 

[Cami Parker]

I didn't mean you, Silly. I meant the OP. We were talking about price points VS quality of service. I said high, medium and low match accordingly, but the OP is complaining about getting medium (as opposed to high end) service at a medium price point. I said maybe if you paid a high price you'd get more high end service, and that got people beans out of shape. I'm saying that you're right when you say sometimes you just want regular instead of fancy, but then, unlike the OP, you most likely wouldn't then make a post asking why your medium choice was so medium?
See what I mean?

If you look at my reviews, I never go negative. If it's meh, it is usually YMMV without a connection between us.

 

[Cami Parker]

Well, to each their own, I guess.
I don't need to over explain my theory to death.

I've paid up to 650$/h and looks wise i shoulda walked, seen better looking 200/hr girls